2006 specifications

[RVTRKN]

Hey Frank, let us know if its truly a C&C truck. If its an incomplete vehicle, then odds are it is a C&C, but my understanding at the time I ordered my C&C in Jan 07 is that Dodge stopped building C&C's trucks until the MY 07 C&C line was reintroduced in 06.



Thanks

 

[frank1]

RVTRKN- Thanks for all your replies. I have an appointment to see the truck this coming Saturday morning. I will have a check in hand, if this truck is as nice as the owner is explaining, consider it sold! I believe the truck was ordered w/ bed delete option, but who knows? I'll find out for sure Saturday morning. If I do decide to buy the truck I'am hoping it will make it back to my house without any problems. It's about a 230 mile trip one way, who knows how old the diesel is, (the owner says he adds additive each time he stores the truck for the winter. I'am definitely bringing an extra fuel filter and my tool case.

 

[TJJEEPER]

'06 had an exhaust brake option. I tried to buy one but it sold before I got my act together. I believe it was from PacBrake. Available from the factory or dealer installed.
I did install a PacBrake on my 06. Fairly easy to do in a day especially since this rig hasn't seen the salt!
Nice clean looking rig!

 

[HBarlow]

The OEM exhaust brake option was a Jacobs. Jacobs is a Cummins, Inc. company.

 

[RVTRKN]

If your talking about a 6. 7 exhaust brake, it was an option on the 07 MY in 06 with the C&C only, and had to be activated by the dealer, and there was a charge for the option. The 5. 9 had an option for the Jacobs exhaust brake which was operated by vacuum and the vacuum pumps are prone to failure. The PacBrake is an after market EB and is operated by compressed air and has a better reputation. The 48re's were not EB compatible until MY 06.

 

[RVTRKN]

Don't you know not to correct HSmartass? :-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf

 

[HBarlow]

Cummins is a customer of Jacobs, along with several other engine manufacturers. Jacobs is a part of Danaher Corp.

I'm surprised! I've long thought Cummins and Jacobs were linked. Clessie Cummins, founder of Cummins, Inc. invented the Jake Brake and as closely as Cummins and Jacobs worked during the 2002 TDR Rally at Cummins as well as the way Carlton Bale worked with Cummins and Dodge going years back I've always thought they were linked by corporate ownership.

 

[AH64ID]

Don't you know not to correct HSmartass? :-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf

Maybe I shouldn't point out that the truck in question has a 12,200 GVWR, not 11,500 as assumed.

The folks are correct, if it has a 5. 9 it is not a C&C. The MY07 C&C was listed with the MY06 pickup information, but had a 6. 7L and the 07 differences (headlights, badgeing, etc). The pictured truck has MY06 headlights.

When you go look at it be sure to check for oil leaks. 12K miles in ~6-7 years means a lot of time not running, which is very hard on seals. Also be sure to check the engine hours to make sure it didn't idle for long periods of time. Low mileage rigs are great, but can also contain "neglect" issues from lack of use.

 

[RVTRKN]

That is a good observation, I didn't see that until you pointed it out. I never noticed before, but would that mean the 07 MY C&C in 06 has the 07 head lights?

 

[HBarlow]

BSeyler,

I read the history you linked. I had read parts of the story elsewhere in the past but that one is more complete and very interesting the way Jacobs and Clessie became linked.

Apparently Jacobs has groups of engineers that are assigned to work closely with engineers of engine companies they serve as well as, in our case, Dodge truck. Engineer Carlton Bale who worked for Jacobs, worked so closely with Cummins and Dodge to test, develop, test some more, and eventually create a seamless operation for the Jacobs Exhaust Brake as a factory order for the '06 Ram 48RE platform I believed all these years that Jacobs was a subsidiary of Cummins. Carlton was even a member of TDR and posted hundreds of posts to inform members of progress while the brake was being tested on '03, '04, and '05 Ram trucks while the joint engineering team worked out ecm programming, internal 48RE modifications, and more until the eb was finally offered for MY06. They fooled me.

 

[AH64ID]

That is a good observation, I didn't see that until you pointed it out. I never noticed before, but would that mean the 07 MY C&C in 06 has the 07 head lights?

That is the impression I have. The mentioned truck on Dodge's spec website looks like a MY07 truck, not MY06.

 

[RVTRKN]

Member EB might be able to tell us, his truck is a 07 MY bought in 06 and I believe one of the first to put it hard at work.

 

[frank1]

Guys, again thanks for all your knowledge. I have a few more questions regarding this 06' purchase. I ordered a build sheet for this truck through Chrysler Group LLC Customer Assistance center. I just received a copy of it and have a few questions... #1 Sales Code ETH - 5. 9 I6 HO Cummins TD Engine and Sales Code NAE California Emissions, what exactly does this mean ? Down rated horse power??? #2 Sales Code XBC Delete Pickup box, that confirms it, I guess ... not a C& C truck! Any thoughts or questions would be appreciated. Frank

 

[HBarlow]

HO 5. 9 in '06 was 350 hp, 650 torque at least on trucks delivered in all but the KA emissions states. I think it was the same nationwide.

 

[HBarlow]

If your talking about a 6. 7 exhaust brake, it was an option on the 07 MY in 06 with the C&C only, and had to be activated by the dealer, and there was a charge for the option. The 5. 9 had an option for the Jacobs exhaust brake which was operated by vacuum and the vacuum pumps are prone to failure. The PacBrake is an after market EB and is operated by compressed air and has a better reputation. The 48re's were not EB compatible until MY 06.

RVPOSER,

I've seen you post that strange story many times before for many years. I always thought it was weird but never gave it a lot of thought. Seeing it posted again here today made me curious so I asked someone who bought a new '07 cab and chassis well before you did.

Guess what! His 2007 Ram 3500 cab and chassis came factory equipped with the standard variable nozzle turbocharger/exhaust brake function, fully wired, programmed, and activated as standard equipment at no extra charge. Just like my '08 which was ordered in late '07 and received in early '08. The exhaust brake function is a standard part of every 6. 7 liter Cummins engine.

I wonder why you had to pay for an extra cost option?

Can you say sucker? Looks like your selling dealer was familiar with that old P T Barnum line.

 

[frank1]

Thanks Harvey.

 

[HBarlow]

Thanks Harvey.

Oops, your truck has a G-56 manual six speed. Torquel and possibly horsepower were reduced in the manual transmission trucks. I don't remember now what the rating was. Maybe 325 hp and 600 torque.

 

[cerberusiam]

If we give HB 3 tries at it do ya think he can hit the ball? :-laf

325 HP 610 TQ is what the 06 5. 9 engine is rated at for all 50 states. The blurb about Cali Emissions means it has a CARB sticker under the hood becuase it was sold in a state that subscribed to the CARB standards.

IIRC, the 305 derated version was in the CC's for the 6. 7's. I believe all the pickup engines got the same rating, manual or auto.

 

[AH64ID]

All 06 trucks (auto/manual/cali/etc) were rated at 325hp and 610 ft/lbs of torque. They were the highest rated 5. 9's ever put in a Dodge. The rating was the same from 04. 5-07 (except 04. 5 had 600 ft/lbs).

EDIT: I didn't see cerb's post until after mine. But yes the C&C were lower than the pickups, and the auto/manual pickups had the same hp but different torque on the 6. 7's, at least until the 13's come out.

HO 5. 9 in '06 was 350 hp, 650 torque at least on trucks delivered in all but the KA emissions states. I think it was the same nationwide.

Oops, your truck has a G-56 manual six speed. Torquel and possibly horsepower were reduced in the manual transmission trucks. I don't remember now what the rating was. Maybe 325 hp and 600 torque.

That's three times in this thread you have stated false data. When are you going to learn to stop spewing numbers you don't know?

 

[cerberusiam]

EDIT: I didn't see cerb's post until after mine. But yes the C&C were lower than the pickups, and the auto/manaul had the same hp but different torque on the 6. 7's, at least until the 13's come out.

Hah! Beat ya by that much! :-laf

I was thinking there was a difference in the TQ from auto to manual in the CC's but could not remember if that was true or another mid year change. For some reason I was thinking the manual was 305\610 and auto was 305\650 in the CC's.

HB is having a rough go. He is posting about motorcylce gloves in power train threads and just generally swinging away at everything else. Maybe he needs a nap?