2010 Dodge 2500 vs 2011 Ford F250

[dlmetzger]

Motor Trend has done a small comparison of the 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 and the 2011 Ford F250. Initial testing with no load, they stated there wasn't much difference in mileage 16. 4 mpg for Dodge and 16. 6 for Ford. Then the mileage goes up when they tow with a load. Strange. They state the towing mileage is 18. 0 mpg for the Ford and 17. 9 mpg for the Dodge on page 4 of your article. Then on page 5 they state that the Ford got 15% better mileage than the Dodge. The math is flawed or the stated mileage numbers are wrong. If the mileage numbers from page 4 are correct, then the Ford got 0. 6% better mileage. This is a very small difference. Also given the Fords 3. 55:1 rear axle ratio and 20" wheels, the Dodge would probably get better mileage if it were similarly equipped. The Dodge had 3. 73 rear axle and 17" wheels.

See link: 2011 Ford F-250 Super Duty vs 2010 Ram 2500 HD Comparison - Motor Trend

 

[tp0d]

It was pretty clear for much of the article they were favoring the Ford... Doesnt surprise me... they were probably paid for the review.

If they got a 15% better mileage, they need to state those numbers. Otherwise, I call BS.

I was taking a look at that Ford engine. Jesus how would you ever work on that? Doesnt look like you can get your hand in anywhere, much less even see the ground. The 6. 7 has a lot of free space in the hood, changing the fuel filter would be cake.

I loved the part where mileage went up when loaded. . What are these people smoking? They should have run the trannys on tow/haul from the beginning. I use mine all the time.

owell.

-j

 

[TWood]

Where did they get a 2010 dodge with a 3. 55 gear ratio?

 

[jtwcummins]

The article shows the RAM w/3. 73 gears and the Ford w/3. 55. My 08 had more wallow and lean in corners until I installed the rear anti-sway bar. Big improvement

 

[FDavid]

Lets see, the Dodge has a bigger fuel tank, a better powertrain warranty, bigger and better brakes, a more solid shifting transmission, costs much less, runs the 1/4 mile faster, has a proven engine design, a quicker steering, better turning radius, no urea tank, a higher payload and better weight distribution. Tough choice :-laf

 

[mc130fox]

Lets see, the Dodge has a bigger fuel tank, a better powertrain warranty, bigger and better brakes, a more solid shifting transmission, costs much less, runs the 1/4 mile faster, has a proven engine design, a quicker steering, better turning radius, no urea tank, a higher payload and better weight distribution. Tough choice :-laf

All with the backing of the federal government... ... & FIAT. :-laf

 

[Grizzly]

I have about as much respect for Motor Trend as I do for politicians and used car salesman. They will alway side with whom ever pay for the most advertising in their magazine.

 

['strokeThis_'07]

The F250 made Forbes' list, top 5 none-the-less, of the worst built vehicles on the road



worst-made-cars-on-the-road: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

 

[HBarlow]

The F250 made Forbes' list, top 5 none-the-less, of the worst built vehicles on the road

worst-made-cars-on-the-road: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

Consumer Reports also rated it in the toilet.

Each man has the right to make his own choices how he spends his money.

To the guy who posted above about his Furd being on order . . . so long and good luck. I knew lots of proud Furd owners when I was transporting They were sad cases but most were still devoted to their Furds.

 

[rscurtis]

The articles mentioned refer to the 2010 model Ford with the 6. 4 engine. CU did point out its dismal fuel economy. Hopefully for the 2011 owners, the 6. 7 will prove to be a better effort.

 

[craiggo]

Buyback.....

ON ORDER: 2011 Ford F-350 Super Duty Lariat CC 4X4 LB 6. 7l PS 6 Speed Auto White w/ Adobe interior!. :-laf

Repurchased by Ford: 2006 F250 4x4 SB Lariat loaded.



Good thing the back window was heated, it kept my hands warm while I was pushing it.

 

[SpectatorRacing]

I don't know why I read these things. They make me angry every time.



Since when does a trailer "push" the car when it shifts? My trailer is 2500# heavier than their test rig and I've never felt this new phenomenon. Not even when I pulled it with my old Ram 1500.



And my trailer brake controller is hidden by my left leg so it's hard to use? Seriously? How often did they feel they needed to use it? I only need to change my setting when I pull the trailer unloaded, which is rare. Perhaps the guys with CC's change more often, but I still would think you'd change once per trip.



I can't wait to drive one of these Fords if it's quieter than my Ram Laramie. Personally, I think the thing is better insulated than a Lexus. And I like the firm shifts, but I don't wear a skirt when I drive it, either.



What features could the Ford have that make it $10k more than the Ram?



Whatever. I guess none of it matters in real life. I would like to know how they got 16 mpg in either of these trucks. I've never acheived more than 13 or 14 doing my best to be stingy with the throttle.

 

[SpectatorRacing]

Oh, and why didn't they comment on how hideous the Ford is?

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

If I bought a HD diesel pickup I'd want to hear my engine growl and feel the transmission shift when it's working. . . what fun is a diesel if you can't hear it and can't feel it shift? I don't want a grandma car. . . there is a point you can become too refined.

And another annoyance with comparison articles is they RARELY compare trucks with manual transmissions. Between the Big 3 Dodge is the only one readily selling HD pickups with manuals. . . do Ford & GM even offer manual diesels anymore? With the advancement of automatic transmissions they're getting better at being tow vehicles but there's nothing like the tried and true inline 6 and a manual gearbox combo to get the job done.

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

I have been driving dodges since '96, They were all great trucks until this piece of crap '06 that I now have, I have put 6 grand out of pocket in repairs and the truck only has 88k miles on it, just about every replaceable suspension part has needed it, all ujoints on the entire truck have been replaced, now I find out according to some guys on this forum that the CR motors have an injector life of about 100k miles, ummmm thats not very funny that is another 4 grand to replace those. Mine are already making strange clicking noises and all sorts of racket.

People I am sorry the ford may not be that great a truck but if if you consider it could very well cost me 10 grand in repairs to get my truck over 100k miles, the ford CAN'T be worse. I am a long dodge fan, but look inside a ford next time you get a chance. I did and it makes my '06 truck look like a work truck base model, plain and simple the ford is just a nicer truck, just admit it.

if the ball joints, u joints and injectors only have the same life as the ones that came on my '06 I would buy the ford and sell it before the 100k warranty is up. another thing to consider is last time I looked dodge had absolutely NO incentives running for diesel models right now, Ford had substantial incentives, right now the dodge is going to cost you about 5 grand more for a comparable truck, add to that all the crappy stuff that wasn't changed with the 4th gens, the ford is looking like the better deal.

 

[craiggo]

last time I looked dodge had absolutely NO incentives running for diesel models right now, Ford had substantial incentives, right now the dodge is going to cost you about 5 grand more for a comparable truck, add to that all the crappy stuff that wasn't changed with the 4th gens, the ford is looking like the better deal.

Actually, if you've looked lately, you will find this is categorically FALSE.



Dodge is offering a $1000 rebate or 1. 9/3. 9% financing (I know this is true as I ordered one on Sat). The Dodge 2010 interior will go toe to toe with the Ford (which I owed before it was bought back by them), and in some areas better. Ford is offering $1500 or 6. 9%. Maybe this is only for CALIF dealers but I don't think so. Plus the new Fords are about $10k more but they "include" urea injection also.

 

[domehead]

Cummins Cowboy ;



You voiced you distaste for dodge on the 3rd gen fourm and you went into a dodge bashing thread. Like I stated before we are sorry that you had so many issues with your truck but it does not mean all dodges are problemmatic. As you stated you do not like dodge so go buy a ford or chevy and move on stop wasting all of this time and engery over something that cannot be undone. PS Ford andChevy have they fair share of issues all so.



Best of luck to you

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

whats catagorically false?? ok dodge is offering 1000 off, big freaking woop, lets keep in mind this is on a 2010 model, the ford we are comparing is a 2011 model, ford is offering 7200 cash back on 2010 models good lord that is a bunch of money off, which means if you bought a 2010 ford at invoice less incentives you are looking at around 35k for an XLT which is compariable to dodges SLT, if you want a 2010 dodge same truck be prepared to spend over 42k. that is why I laugh so hard when I see people catting around in 2010 dodges because I know they paid so much money for the truck it makes my head hurt.

as for 2011 fords costing 10k more, THAT IS CATEGORICALLY FALSE, I just did a build and price on a 2011 f250 XLT 4 door 4x4 auto with fords 1500 cash back it should run about 40 grand for the truck, a comparable dodge is going to be over 42k, again we are comparing a 2011 ford to a 2010 dodge, similar equipment etc. the ford is still cheaper.

I never thought I would ever consider a ford EVER, however after the way my '06 has sucked, I now am for my next truck. the ford engine might suck who knows, I think ford knows it laid a goose egg with the 6. 0 so if I was a betting man I would guess they have their ducks in a row this time. it does have a warranty to 100k, the ball joints and other parts should last that long, dodges don't so I might be money ahead. you have to commend ford for trying to get better fuel mileage, that is probably the biggest thing that has kept me out of a new truck, why would I want a truck that gets WORSE mileage than the one I have.

some people are too proud to admit the brand they purchased or chose might not have been the best choice, I am not one of those guys. I bought dodges because I thought they were the better truck overall, I was right until I bought my 2006 model. as for the dodge interior it still sucks and has the work truck looking canvas that is only slightly fancier looking than my '06, the new dodge gauges also look just like chevy's.

ask yourself does the 2010 dodge still have the same sucky ball joints, sucky u joints, 100k mile lifespan injectors, if the answer is yes why would you even consider a dodge again. those parts alone are many thousands of $$$ to replace.

 

[rscurtis]

Go for the 6. 4 and see how you like the fuel economy. Or how easy the engine is to work on. Do you have the facilities to lift the cab off for service? See how easy it is to change the water pump, serpentine belt, or injectors. Might want to check on changing the glow plugs also. But on another note, what do you think the chances are that your next Dodge would be as problematic as your last? Perhaps you got one of those rare vehicles where a number of its components were on the far side of acceptable tolerance- sort of like losing the lottery.

 

[Cummins Cowboy]

Go for the 6. 4 and see how you like the fuel economy. Or how easy the engine is to work on. Do you have the facilities to lift the cab off for service? See how easy it is to change the water pump, serpentine belt, or injectors. Might want to check on changing the glow plugs also. But on another note, what do you think the chances are that your next Dodge would be as problematic as your last? Perhaps you got one of those rare vehicles where a number of its components were on the far side of acceptable tolerance- sort of like losing the lottery.

if the parts are the same, would you take the chance again?? I am not, I keep hoping I have fixed everything that will break and I am done fixing stuff, now I find out our trucks injectors are only good to 100k miles, or there abouts. thats a 4k repair bill, on parts that are known to need replacement, think of those as a wear item, how do you like knowing that??



I change my oil every 8-9k miles in that time I always have to fix something, last time it was the rooster comb and check ball in the valve body, the time before that the fan shroud caused a pin hole in the radiator, the time before that the rear driveline ujoints went bad, I could go on and on. just know those same parts I had to replace are up under your 2010 dodge. go look up quad 4x4's site they explain why the dodge front end is a poor design with the ball joints.



if you are me and you plan to sell the truck before 100k miles, would you buy another dodge??