2016 ccsb empty weight

[mrbb]

OK so since I bought my truck out of state, I had to go and get it weighed for some paperwork
I added a cap and a some side steps
had me a full tank of fuel, and ME (225 lbs) in it at the time
I was rather surprised to see it tip the scale at 8,250 lbs
(title paperwork listed the truck at 7680 lbs)
and has a 10K GVW
so, leaves me with 1750 lbs before going over
split up 2 other guys and a hunting dog , NOT much room left for stuff in the bed LOL

Never have enough truck I guess??
just thought I would shave my trucks weight with others?
IF anyone cares

 

[SnoKing]

My 2015 Laramie 3500 4x4 SB weighs in at 8220 with me(225). It luckly has a 11,700 GVWR. Snoking

 

[AH64ID]

Another reason that gvwr is a number that is largely ignored and irrelevant on these trucks. Stick within FAWR/RAWR and have fun.

 

[mrbb]

the on;y thing about the number, is, IF something goes wrong and your over it LOL

many times been over and NO issue's
Almost went with a 3500 too, just didn;t think I needed that much GVW< which MOST times I never do
so NOT complaining here, just saying
it weighed in a little higher than I expected(not much)
owned a BUNCH of 2500's with gas motors and they were always a bunch lighter
I can feel it just driving the diesel now, weight has more shift drive to it than in all my gas trucks prior to this, even my CCLB I have before this
and again NOT complaining
just things I noticed

 

[AH64ID]

In all seriousness, who can, or will, impose anything on GVWR? It's a legally bearing number, at least not in all the places I have looked

Load the truck how you need to use and go have fun.

 

[gsbrockman]

In all seriousness, who can, or will, impose anything on GVWR?

Apparently you've never had an encounter with a North Carolina State Trooper that called his DOT co-worker to deliver a set of portable scales. :-laf

 

[AH64ID]

Apparently you've never had an encounter with a North Carolina State Trooper that called his DOT co-worker to deliver a set of portable scales. :-laf

Not to fully go OT... But please show me the statue that governs a ticket or limit imposed by GVWR. I have been told by many, many, people their state has one yet it is a statement that has yet to be backed up by any law... I used to check myself but after coming up empty handed a trend was noticed and it wasn't worth my time.

If you are that concerned a get it then modify your GVWR IAW federal regulations, it's easy enough.

 

[mrbb]

well I don't have any copy's of the laws
BUT what ever your truck is registered at
when you go OVER it , you leave yourself exposed if nothing else to liability in any accident or??(god forbid)
a your insurance will NOT cover anything if your over what your GVW is rated for
, based on what your vehicle registration says
I will GUESS< that there are FINES that can be imposed as well, if your ever checked and OVER the markings on your registration

NEXT when you RAISE your GVW, it then raises your GVW when towing
and BY law, when they do the math, they add up the trailer GVW and then truck

and if your over a certain(don't know exact number) you enter into a new world of needing different credentials on your lic to LEGALLY tow , even IF your under the weight
they base it on what the numbers are, even if you DON"T have that much LB"S on the trailer/truck

SO< just raising your GVW on your truck, isn't always a simple fix, and can get you into deeper water again
again don't have exact numbers just know there are LAW's and set limits

TON"S of folks break these all the time too, so I am NOT blind to this fact
then again millions use illegal drugs, and , well MOST of us I gather SPEED on a regular basis
doesn't mean its RIGHT

But I knew a guy MANY yrs back that was in a big car pile up on a HI way, NOT his fault at all, but was over his GVW and got screwed, NO insurance and ended up in a bunch of law suits he LOST
so that was all I was kind of saying
KNOW your numbers and take your risks as you feel willing to accept
IF anyone REALLY wants to find the laws
contact your local DOT dept, I am sure they can point you to them in hard copy is needed
I don't store law books anymore

 

[AH64ID]

Registered weight and GVWR can be, and often are, two very different numbers. For example Idaho only registers GCW and I am registered for 26K lbs. Every state I have looked up does not state GVWR as a limit.

Everyone has a hear-say story on insurance and tickets for GVW, but until I see an actual law for GVW or a actual claim against someone who was legal to operate in their vehicle at that weight it's nothing but here-say. In my research the laws don't exist to backup the internet tales.

Increasing the GVWR on your vehicle can actually be very simple. Title 49 CFR 567.7 explains what is required to modify a vehicle.

 

[mrbb]

I changed my GVW today, as when I transferred my old plate to my new truck, old plate was for a GVW of 8800 lbs
so to get it to what the OEM truck 10k GVW was, I had to raise it
was super simple, AAA girl filled out a form and charged me a few bucks to send the paperwork into my DOT, to do the change, and then I will now pay a few bucks a yr more for yearly reg due to higher weight deal
small no big deal

I don't think its a internet myth, if your OVER your rated numbers and you get in an accident, your going to be held accountable
its seems rather simple
IF there was NO law about it, why would there even be numbers to worry about, minus the income of charging for them LOL

I do know up my way the state police have cracked down a LOT of landscapers and such towing over 10k with truck s and NOT having the correct credentials on there lic for the combined weights they were towing

they seem to stop more and more folks that don't have DOT numbers on the sides of there trucks towing BIG/Heavy here!
as many I gather don't know what they should have or NOT, and just think IF there truck can pull it, there OK
but fines do get handed out here for that!

 

[Deleted member 995608]

I think it's best to stay within the law and play safe.

I remember my first tow with my 04.5 2500 after I hooked up our newly bought triple axle, 36' TH. I knew I was over loading my truck within the first 30 minutes. Sure, my truck pulling it, but that was about it. I felt that I was being steered; not me steering.

I was too cheap to buy a DRW truck so I converted my SRW 2500 to a DRW 2500. It made a NIGHT-n-DAY difference as far as handling goes, but I knew in the back of my mind that if an unfortunate accident we're to happen, I'd be held responsible.

 

[kthaxton]

I am no DOT regulation expert, but I am familiar with OSHA and EPA regulations. When dealing with machinery/equipment (especially with OSHA) "manufacturer's recommendations" is above actual written regulations on the hierarchy of rules scale. I can't help but believe there is something similar within DOT (whether state or federal). But like many have said, likely won't become an issue when exceeded.....until there is an accident.

 

[SnoKing]

The only laws are the federal bridge weight laws that the states repeat in their vehicle code. And some states register tonnage. No pickup is going to exceed the bridge weight laws. Now being over a tire rating might draw some sort of a fine.

This has turned into a normal RV.net weight police BS thread! In Washington I can register any tonnage I want above the formula, which is tare weight time 1.5 rounded up to the next even K. My 8800 GVWR 2001.5 was licensed to 12K and the new truck is also. I could have put 14K on the new truck for a little more per year. These registration weights are valid in all other states.

There is a guy two rows over that has a 41-42 Solitude behind a 2500 Duramax. Tires are only rated to 3195 and I will bet he is over his rear axle rating and maybe tires, but he made it here with many other "overloaded" combinations.

SNOKING

 

[Cummins12V98]

My Dually has a GVWR of 14K but it actually weighs 15K when loaded but it's under front/rear axle ratings and also below combined tow at 32,500#.

Some will say I am "overloaded" but the fact is the 14K is just a number because if it was 14,001# it would fall into a different classification causing insurance and licensing financial woes. The F450 with pickup bed is rated at 14K for the same reasons.

 

[SnoKing]

My Dually has a GVWR of 14K but it actually weighs 15K when loaded but it's under front/rear axle ratings and also below combined tow at 32,500#.

Some will say I am "overloaded" but the fact is the 14K is just a number because if it was 14,001# it would fall into a different classification causing insurance and licensing financial woes. The F450 with pickup bed is rated at 14K for the same reasons.

Given that you are a SD registered truck do they register tonnage? If so are, you registered to 16K? Snoking

 

[Cummins12V98]

Given that you are a SD registered truck do they register tonnage? If so are, you registered to 16K? Snoking

I went to the truck to check. SD Registration says Scale wt 8,233# and under TONS is lists 5.

 

[tony1461571]

Ok gents this has puzzled me for two years now. My 98.5 used B-Truck plates 8k and under My 2014 had to go with D plates this is all in IL where the crooks live I was told my 2014 weighted 14,250. Here's the sticker from the door someone please tell me what my truck weights.

 

[AH64ID]

Your truck weight isn't on there.

If you subtract the payload amount, another sticker on the door, from 14,000 it will be close to your curb weight.

Not sure where they got 14,250. I could see them stating 15,250 which is the sum of FAWR and RAWR.

 

[mrbb]

if you want exact weight of your truck , just go to any recycling/scrap yard
they will have a scale on site, drive on, get weighed, drive off
real easy and fast
and you will know for sure what it is as you drive it

 

[tony1461571]

Your truck weight isn't on there.

If you subtract the payload amount, another sticker on the door, from 14,000 it will be close to your curb weight.

Not sure where they got 14,250. I could see them stating 15,250 which is the sum of FAWR and RAWR.

Yeah it was a guy at the test place have to get it tested every 2x a year. I did see that the combined frt and rear was 15,250. Thanks a lot.