21K, New Engine

[DonFitzwater]

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...sions-fines-marchionne-criminal-investigation

From what I read Sergio says NO WAY! He's fighting the EPA and the EPA wants to "settle" out of court. More government overreach and problems caused by the Economic Punishment Agency.

 

[TCDiesel]

I don't see the Overreach, Most likely the civil penalties were in the Billions. Serigo denial is equal to fake News... His own words only a few Problems with Cento, 200+ per month engine pukers are just a hand full. he's smoking something Illegal. I have documentation Sent to Me mysteriously that has to be in the hands of the DOJ By Now. I posted some of it weeks in advance at Ecodieselram.com I had it in My possession week before that in fear I would have the DOJ Knocking at My Door.... Someone wants the truth out, and Obliviously New about My Stand I was publishing.

 

[KPear]

Kpear, they new, Back in Mid 2015 I posted many finding that I found to be ODD when I defeated device(s) on My 3.0, eventually I call out many on this this really PO some at 1500diesel.com.. I started deleting My postings and they Banned Me, All My finding were confirmed Nov 15 when the EPA notify FCA of there findings, it led to the Cease and desist Sales of 2017. My contacts have the 2017 failing in -0 temps form No starts to just going x miles and shutting down.

FY 2017 civil penalties include a $1.45 billion Clean Air Act penalty in the Volkswagen case. EPA is continuing to address mobile source Clean Air Act violations. In May 2017, EPA filed a complaint against FCA US LLC, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V., V.M. Motori S.p.A., and V.M. North America, Inc. alleging violations similar to those in the Volkswagen case, affecting nearly 104,000 light duty diesel vehicles.

EPA is increasing the deterrent effect of EPA’s enforcement program through criminal enforcement actions to address the most egregious cases. EPA may seek sanctions against individual employees of facilities for criminal violations of the CAA. Page 2 Pg . Between 2013 and 2016, Defendants illegally sold or caused the illegal
sale of approximately 103,828 diesel-fueled new motor vehicles, under the Ram
1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee model names, (“Subject Vehicles”) that do not
comply with the Act. The applications for Certificates of Conformity (“COC”) for
the Subject Vehicles did not disclose at least eight software-based features that
affect the Subject Vehicles’ emission control system. Consequently, each Subject
Vehicle differs from the specifications provided in the COC applications and none
of the Subject Vehicles is certified by the COC that purportedly covered it. In
addition, one or more of these undisclosed software features, alone or in
combination with one or more of the others, bypass, defeat and/or render inoperative
the Subject Vehicles’ emission control system, causing the vehicles to emit
substantially higher levels of NOx during certain normal real world driving
conditions than during federal emission tests.


If found guilty Criminal Charges would follow. Unless the civil case is Settle.


Criminal Provisions of CAA https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-provisions-clean-air-act#six

A few things you should consider:
1) Please write your posts with complete, articulate and grammatically correct sentences. It's extremely hard to understand some of your posts.
2) There are no criminal charges against FCA for the ecodiesel. There is a civil case pending, but that's different from a criminal court case, namely in that the burden of proof is much lower for the prosecution.
3) There has been no proof, thus far, that FCA cheated emissions. There have been a lot of allegations, but no concrete proof as there was in the case of VW.
4) The EPA did certify that FCA's ecodiesel is in fact emissions compliant, hence why they are back on sale.
5) Your own 'personal' findings mean jack squat unless you can actually provide some hard evidence.

I'm not apologizing for or defending FCA, but I'm also not inclined to see people make up or exaggerate their problems.

 

[TCDiesel]

I did say alleged, So Kpear other then what you read, have YOU actually tested any of the Alleged claims mentioned in the Compliant? there are No 2018 Ecodiesel , the 2017 were let out of jail on executive order. I write for those that want to understand, and For those that don't, understand, is not my concern. Are you familiar with the process of COC? or the CDX?

What part of this sentence structure don't you understand.

Violation of State Implementation Plan (SIP)

Elements:
•A Person ◦Knowingly Violates a requirements of an applicable SIP during a period of federally assumed enforcement, or more than 30 days after having been notified by the Administrator under Section 113(a), 42 U.S.C. 74139(a)(1) that the defendant was in violation of such SIP requirement



Statute: 42 U.S.C. 7413(c)(1)

Penalty:
•5 years and/or fines pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 3571. ◦Penalties doubled if second or subsequent conviction.

False Statements in CAA Documents

Elements:
•A person ◦Knowingly Makes false material statement, representation, or certification in/omits material information from/alters, conceals or fails to file or maintain a document filed or required to be maintained under the CAA



Statute: 42 U.S.C. 7413(1)

Penalty:
•2 years and/or fines pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 3571.; ◦Penalties doubled if second or subsequent conviction.

FCA lacks much candor in the matter.

 

[KPear]

I did say alleged, So Kpear other then what you read, have YOU actually tested any of the Alleged claims mentioned in the Compliant? there are No 2018 Ecodiesel , the 2017 were let out of jail on executive order. I write for those that want to understand, and For those that don't, understand, is not my concern. Are you familiar with the process of COC? or the CDX?

No, I haven't tested anything. If someone makes allegations (whether its a government entity or private individual) the burden of proof is on them to prove those allegations. It's not incumbent on me, as a 3rd party observer, to disprove them.

And I would encourage you to read about the distinction between a civil case and a criminal case. FCA can't be charged criminally if found guilty or liable in a civil case.

What part of this sentence structure don't you understand.

Your sentence structure in the above post is still lacking, so I'm having trouble understanding pretty much everything you're writing.

Every time an eco-diesel related thread comes up, you write these ambiguous, unsubstantiated and poor-worded posts. If you want to be taken more seriously, maybe you should spend more time coming up with a well-articulated comment. Just a friendly suggestion.

 

[TCDiesel]

I am very very familiar with the difference. Please add me to Your ignore list. It was paste and copy, If you have trouble with that...


1st the law does NOT allow two bites at the same apple at the same time.

What Part of this don't you understand. It would seem You have trouble with common understandings.

 

[TCDiesel]

No, I haven't tested anything. If someone makes allegations (whether its a government entity or private individual) the burden of proof is on them to prove those allegations. It's not incumbent on me, as a 3rd party observer, to disprove them.

And I would encourage you to read about the distinction between a civil case and a criminal case. FCA can't be charged criminally if found guilty or liable in a civil case.



Your sentence structure in the above post is still lacking, so I'm having trouble understanding pretty much everything you're writing.

Every time an eco-diesel related thread comes up, you write these ambiguous, unsubstantiated and poor-worded posts. If you want to be taken more seriously, maybe you should spend more time coming up with a well-articulated comment. Just a friendly suggestion.

We'll it would seem You have 0 freedom speech on the matter it does show you support keystrokes rather than any act of facts. Do you even own an Ecodiesel, It would seem that someone who claims to be so intellectually skilled would fill out his signature.

 

[JR]

Lots of hands on experience in the above posts your so quick to criticize KPear. I understand it's naturally below you, but do try and acknowledge that. Maybe do a little research if you are indeed skeptical on Todd's background. I think you will find he is a plethora of knowledge.

 

[jgillott]

Has anyone else noticed how often threads sink to this level here lately. I personally am getting a little tired of seeing a perfectly innocent topic turn in to heated comments and personal attacks.

Come on guys. This is TDR. We are supposed to be better than this.

 

[TCDiesel]

No criticism intended, But I wish members and readers could answer My Phone, Plus I don't like to draw attention to Myself By Disclosing My career and Background....I will Share This at 1 Time I was vested in Dodge Franchises, I know their tactic's well, I still have all the contact's, Most Have left FCA but wealth of knowledge they carry is overwhelming at times.

I posted this weeks before it became Public.

First and foremost to revise the calibration to reduce crankshaft bearing loads during low
rpm/high load conditions. These failures increased 61% May-July 2016 as compared to JanuaryMarch,
2016. The failures increased another 30% August-October, 2016 averaging 215/month.
We have been holding to clear the 2017 MY cert through your teams. We cannot wait any
longer with this frequency of failure.


I also Publish that MS11106 Was NOT the best lube for the engine 12 Months before FCA agree with ME. Switch to T-6 ASAP..... HOW AND THE *&^& WOULD I KNOW THIS IF I DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO.. PUT ... MY REPUTATION ON THE LINE? Geez I was trying to aid owners in long term ownership.

I posted in Mid 2015 That the devices were conditional NOT detection, Big Difference ..How would I know this without testing it 1st.

Feb 2016

In the past several months the issue of diesel emissions has been the subject of a great
deal of attention, particularly in Europe, where diesel is quite common.
In response to these events, FCA has conducted a thorough internal review of the
application of this technology in its vehicles and has confirmed that its diesel engine
applications comply with applicable emissions regulations.
In particular:
?CIJCCCIJCC FCA diesel vehicles do not have a mechanism to either detect that they are
undergoing a bench test in a laboratory or to activate a function to operate emission
controls only under laboratory testing. In other words, although emission levels vary
depending on driving conditions, the emission control systems of the FCA vehicles
operate in the same way under the same conditions, whether the vehicle is in a
laboratory or on the road.



JAN 2016


I would like to schedule a short phone call for Line and me with you, XXXX XXXe and if timely
XXXX XXXX for this afternoon. I am very concerned about the unacceptably slow pace of the
efforts to understand the high NOx emissions we have observed from several Dodge Ram 1500
vehicles with the 3.01 diesel. As was discussed with your team on November 25, at least one of
10/16/2017 ED_001213_00360811-00002
FCA FOIA
the AECDs in question appears to me violate EPA's defeat device regulations. I have copied
those regulations below for your convenience.

May 2016
As I mentioned over the phone, the defect reports have been submitted for 14MY, 15MY,
16MY.
We have a bearing problem due to premature bearing wear due to inadequate oil film thickness
at low rpm I high engine torque conditions.
The near term solution is to change the engine oil from SW-30 to SW-40. The higher viscosity leads to a thicker oil film at the bearing.
Just some of the comment in over 500 pages FCA Commination's dating back to Mid 2013

 

[DonFitzwater]

Todd, there is nothing illegal about building crappy engines so I don’t understand your insistence on bringing that up when the main issue is the government making a blanket attack on a car builder for allegedly exceeding emissions output. It’s two unrelated topics.

 

[TCDiesel]

I could post that also, the comments form FCA and EPA, Don you may feel different on that crappy engine if you lived in CA with 81K Miles and looking at $10K-15K CA for new engine 1400+ Miles away form Home.

Weather You like the EPA or NOT its the Law in America.

The Ecodiesel has its pro also the mileage is stellar. I don't see why the Law has next to 0 NOx, and the mileage gain for just a few PPGs of NOx should be allowed NOx is a natural element created By lighting and other natural events Why the EPA has the level next to 0 IMO not necessary.

Now many people have ask us about cheating at the professional (Competition) level with our trucks...I quietly says I don't have a problem with cheating its getting caught I do...So if your going to cheat and you get caught prepare Yourself or Business to pay up, Serigo Making comments like ,If you think we cheated your smoking something Illegal. Cummins ,Cat, Volvo, Detroit, VW and a host others have challenged the EPA ALL LOST and paid Billions in fines. FCA corp is ugly, remember the Track bar Bracket failure, The Company that builds welds the Frames Statement to the NHTSA dated 12 months before FCA acknowledge the problem They waited until Owners were filing with NHTSA and were force to do a recall. FCA Lack of candor will bury the company (Again) if they don't get some better leadership at the helm.

 

[DonFitzwater]

Point being there are still no criminal charges levied against FCA with regards to emissions cheating. I suspect if the EPA had real evidence they’d have tipped their hand already and would be pursuing criminal charges, not the route of asking for money in a “settlement” that basically equates to governmental extortion in my opinion.

 

[JJJ]

Like many here I can't see tc's posts due to blocking but even without reading them I can say don't waste your breath replying just go straight to the ignore button and save yourself some grief.

 

[Osteoblast]

Like many here I can't see tc's posts due to blocking but even without reading them I can say don't waste your breath replying just go straight to the ignore button and save yourself some grief.

I am very thankful for TC! He has taken time to speak with me on the phone and guide me through my own 1500 ecodisaster....very appreciative. Traded at 98k for a new Raptor, rides like my Ram!

 

[TCDiesel]

Enjoy the Raptor, Kinda Said seeing members and owners leaving Ram.. over the VM 3.0. The acceptable level of Rotating mass failure for Most power plant builder 1 Per 1000, Most makers don't see this level, VM 3.0 was doubling that per Month,3 years 104.000 engines=104 back in 2016 100-220 per month and never stop production is unheard of in the Auto world.... That's 2800 engines per month with 1 in 12-24 failing.

 

[JR]

I am very thankful for TC! He has taken time to speak with me on the phone and guide me through my own 1500 ecodisaster....very appreciative. Traded at 98k for a new Raptor, rides like my Ram!

I'll second that, Todd took a solid hour plus out of his evening to speak with me when I was having issues with my scr system. Very helpful and gave me an insider perspective on a few things so to speak.

 

[TCDiesel]

JJJ is a GDE Cheerleader, The Mods ,GDE and handful 1550diesel.com members were using the short comings of the 3.0 to promote thee so-called savior GDE, According to this Bunch My modded 3.0 would not make it around the Block W/O the GDE Savior tune... (Now at 40K Miles) Heck they were Prompting New owners with less then 500 miles to save your engine with GDE as your only hope.

 

[SmokinJoe]

it could be that high, I was told there was a class action suit and production was halted this January. There is a youtube video of the high pressure pump that is run off the cam not having a key, bot the valve sproket and pump sprocket have press fit interfaces and eventually spin and cause low fuel pressure and bent valves, cracked head and cracked pistons.

 

[TCDiesel]

I had to throw the towel in on My ED, the last plenum cleaning was horrible, I restricted the EGR down to 19/32 hole, If you going to keep it in long term ownership You should tune. Rumor has it FCA is losing the DOJ case so it might be mood