4 Wheel disk conversion

[EricBu12]

I bought the EGR Brake setup, I bought both the front and rear conversion For Disk.

All the parts are here but it is raining today, I am going to do pics and tell how it was to do. I was told that 3 hours and hand tools were all it was needed for the rear conversion. we'll see... .



I might work on it tomorrw so either look for updates tomorrow night or sunday.

 

[MGire]

Eric,



What are your initial impressions of the kit before the installation? Are the rear rotors drilled or slotted or neither? What type of rear calipers come with the kit and do they have a parking brake?



Thanks for any information, Mike

 

[Mundgyver]

4 wheel disk would be a very nice thing to have. Where did you buy the kit from and what are your impressions. . Look forward to pictures to see how it's done.

 

[DEZLPWR]

Check with Piers also....

He does the disc conversion at a VERY affordable price. Much less than EGR from what I understand... .

 

[EricBu12]

So far everything looks good pre assembly. I got all new fluid to flush out so doing all 4 at once is very good so I can bleed and flush at once.

There is a parking brake device on the rear caliper. it is a lever action to push against the piston to grip the rotor.



I got the slotted rotors The guy said that in his opinion, the drilled rotors didn't improve much over the slotted itself and that there is less mettal there for warp resistance.



Will be doing this today so check later and see

 

[RDusch]

Eric,

I just finished my disk conversion on my 93, here is link to some pics



disk conversion



the most problem i had was a small clearance problem with the banjo bolt on the E brake caliper and getting the air out of the system finally rigged a vacuum bottle out of an old 30# freon drum pulled avacuum on it on let it pull from all the bleeder screws worked pretty well



good luck



Rick D

 

[Mundgyver]

A very nice job. Looks good.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I bought EGR's Stainless/Kevlar brakelines. I wasn't dissapointed in the quality. I did the rear line ok. It needed the be routed differently then the OEM line. Once I got to the fronts I mounted the EGR line on the frame. Seems that the OEM "hard" line is 2" off. And out 3/4" to much. I thought this was just going to a simple bolt-on. It looks the the hard line would need to be unfastened, and totally re-bent. It looked like it would have come up short (length) and or kink a line. Probabley could have just drilled a new hole in the frame, but no instructions came with them. I sent them back. Too much (surprise) fabrication for me.



Maybe it was just me or the truck??

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by RDusch

Eric,

I just finished my disk conversion on my 93, here is link to some pics



disk conversion



the most problem i had was a small clearance problem with the banjo bolt on the E brake caliper and getting the air out of the system finally rigged a vacuum bottle out of an old 30# freon drum pulled avacuum on it on let it pull from all the bleeder screws worked pretty well



good luck



Rick D

looks like a cady brake caliper just like I put on my 14bolt rear. I hope you bleed the system before you put the calipers on the mounts you will NEVER get all the air out of tihe system with them mounted in that position! On the cady the bleeder screw is straight up, not down like you have them... .



William

 

[EricBu12]

I Have pics but not right now. I had some trouble. I have the Dana 80 and on that model, the drum can come off then you remove the axle and then the hub from the housing. I had to drive out the studs and went to put the rotor on the new hub and found out the rotor inside diameter for the hub mounting was small. Not by much but small it was and woud'nt fit. so sat night and every brake place closed, I broke out the dremel with a gringing wheel and did a even job of grinding the hole wider to fit on the hub. You have to have a BIG socket for the axle end, Like 2. 5" so got that and so far I have one (1) rear rotor on and hooked for P. Brake and started on the other finish tomorrow,...



On the front rotors, just started that, is more simple, but I have the piston rebuild kit to do but that should be easy to do.

The Bolt for the frame of the caliper on the front is a 16mm 12 pt size wrench. It looks like a torx and I was fooled but I figured it out. It's 1 am here, gotta get some rest.

Will do some pics tomorrow I hope.

 

[EricBu12]

OK! All Done.

here is a link to the pics.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&userid=3978&albumid=381



I Elected not to do the Piston rebuild kit for time contraints. I will do it when I really need to. ... ...



I had problems getting the rotor on the rear of the hub. I have the Dana 80 and it has a full floater. I had to drive out the studs and put the rotor on the rear and drive via hammer and drift the studs in. then install was not too bad.



One thing was the instructions were Horrible! On one it showed a pic of the parts I have on hand and on the lower of the paper, it showed the assembly of another model hub!!



there was all of 2 small paragraph describing how to install the frame and rotor and one page each of how to adjust the P. Brake and break in the pads by heat. All of 3 pics and hardly any way of seeing how to do it. My mechanical knowledge helped me to get it done.

All in all, I like the new setup, the P. Brake is not as strong as a binding drum but it holds ok. Just use the Manual trans in Gear otherwise.....

Glad I did this, it was a pain though. lost some weight I bet lol

 

[SOLER]

Glad to hear

Let us know how they perform



SOLER

 

[EricBu12]

Have done a preliminary Run in, and so far, as per directions, there will be a little low pedle until the pads seat in but so far they are very good. The P. brake as I suspected, is not very strong, it will hold the vehicle, but if I try to move with power, it does go, so now I put the truck into gear when I park just incase.



The pedal is a little low right now but still, it is not bad and the truck comes to a fast stop. !! Also If you do a double pump, it comes up firm. My truck is fairly heavy, Last I weighed it, it was 7630 #. If I get any trailer at all, it will be very heavy so this is a must, ... future use maybe, but a must.

 

[Rob Thomas]

Eric,



Your above link doesn't work, for me anyway.





Later, Rob

 

[Mundgyver]

User gallery does not exist. You must be a registered user in the message boards. (2) Hows that said up in Main, Oh yea Ah yep! Ya can't geet thar from heya. The link appears not to be working as indicated by the error message.

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by EricBu12

Have done a preliminary Run in, and so far, as per directions, there will be a little low pedle until the pads seat in but so far they are very good. The P. brake as I suspected, is not very strong, it will hold the vehicle, but if I try to move with power, it does go, so now I put the truck into gear when I park just incase.



The pedal is a little low right now but still, it is not bad and the truck comes to a fast stop. !! Also If you do a double pump, it comes up firm. My truck is fairly heavy, Last I weighed it, it was 7630 #. If I get any trailer at all, it will be very heavy so this is a must, ... future use maybe, but a must.

Make sure that you bleed the system before you mount the calipers if you have them installed with the bleeder nipples down like the other install. You can bleed them by pulling the bolts and moving them so the bleeder is up then put them back on the brackets. To get more parking brake force, apply it while holding the service brakes on, you can apply way more force to the pads with the master cyl. and your foot than that wimpy cam on the parking brake can by its self.



William... .

 

[EricBu12]

Thanks for the tip on the P. brake



My bleeders are pointing up while installed. the other person had a 93 and top mounted. mine is a 01 and mounted on the rear.

Did the bleeding with a hose that has a one way check valve to a canister.

 

[EricBu12]

I am on a remote system and can't do a link, just go to the readers rigs under my screen name and see the pics there.

 

[FAllen]

Pictures

EricBu12



Your pictures aren't working on your Reader's Rig page, just checked they are all blank.





Fred

 

[Huff N Puff]

Correct me if I'm wrong

Please correct me if i'm wrong but those calipers looked like Delco Moraine calipers. Alot of years in the bussiness and I saw alot of problems with the Delco calipers with the emergency brake levers,the adjusters would hangup internally leaving you with a very low brake pedal. The other issue is I never saw them on a truck,they were almost always used on the rear of passenger cars. I dont think they'll be adequeate on the back of a truck espescially if your going to be loaded,if the truck ever sees mud or dirt the calipers wont be nothing but problems. Merv