Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting adventures in reloading

[GHarman]

I hope you learned a lesson! Primers can develop in excess of 8000PSI !

The cup and anvil , unrestrained, will separate creating shrapnel!

The safest way to dispose of unwanted primers is to let them soak, covered with diesel fuel or oil. Then dispose of them. GregH

 

[KBurgoyne]

well i wasnt really looking for the proper way to dispose of it. i just wanted to see what would happen.



on a smarter note i did pick up some h110 powder and 100 hornady 300 grain hp-xtp's.



the snow finally melted up in the mountains so i got the chance to shoot up in the boonies. lit off 45 rounds of 45-70 mostly the reloads. nothing blew up and no pressure signs on the cases so im satisfied.

 

[WalterJ]

I've just received my refurbished M1917. I had to re-barrel it to make an 'original' shooter. Now I need some M2 Ball ammo or equivalent or close to it.

Pls. advise using the Greek surplus ammo from CMP's E-Store.

Thanks.

 

[KBurgoyne]

I've just received my refurbished M1917. I had to re-barrel it to make an 'original' shooter. Now I need some M2 Ball ammo or equivalent or close to it.



Pls. advise using the Greek surplus ammo from CMP's E-Store.



Thanks.

just from looking around a bit it seems that people who have purchased the ammo are very pleased with it. if fact the sellers are having trouble keeping it in stock and had to set a 10 can limit.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

just from looking around a bit it seems that people who have purchased the ammo are very pleased with it. if fact the sellers are having trouble keeping it in stock and had to set a 10 can limit.

Just wait untill the mighty O' get's re-elected.

 

[KBurgoyne]

Just wait untill the mighty O' get's re-elected.

noooooooooooooooo kidding.

 

[KBurgoyne]

unrelated question; about how much would it cost to have standard v-notch and bead sights put on a savage model 12 vlp bdm. Savage Arms



its down to that or the ruger african. the problem is finding the african, and ruger isnt taking orders for another 5 months.

 

[GHarman]

The best place to find that out would be the Gunsmith that you would plan to use for the project. The gunsmith could configure the exact sights, installation method and shop time. My figures would only be a blind guess! GregH

 

[HHhuntitall]

well i wasnt really looking for the proper way to dispose of it. i just wanted to see what would happen.



on a smarter note i did pick up some h110 powder and 100 hornady 300 grain hp-xtp's.



the snow finally melted up in the mountains so i got the chance to shoot up in the boonies. lit off 45 rounds of 45-70 mostly the reloads. nothing blew up and no pressure signs on the cases so im satisfied.

Well, I wouldn't suggest disposing of it like that again... . you'll shoot your eye out!! And Greg, I thought the best way to dispose of primers was behind some powder?!?!

I've just received my refurbished M1917. I had to re-barrel it to make an 'original' shooter. Now I need some M2 Ball ammo or equivalent or close to it.



Pls. advise using the Greek surplus ammo from CMP's E-Store.



Thanks.

Mixed reports from the firing line. It seems to be pretty good for those just getting introduced to shooting sports or for plinking. Competition is questionable with it, as is accuracy. Not sure of the price, but storage means everything with ammo. If it's allowed to get hot or humid where it's stored it severely degrades the ammo quality. Usually, bunkers are underground, and that helps reduce seasonal temperature fluctuations, which keeps the ammo reasonably protected for long periods. Heat caused powder and primers to break down over time.....

Just wait untill the mighty O' get's re-elected.

That's why we ALL have to get out and vote, and pray it's enough to get rid of this lunatic before it begins to cost us our lives and families.

 

[GHarman]

Depends!

HHhuntitall, That primer was run through a DRYER! It was unfit fer duty! :-laf

Drown 'em in oil or boil 'em in duck s(doo doo):-laf!! GregH

 

[HHhuntitall]

Well, I have a use for 'em, but I'm not gonna name it in a public place..... Only if I must.....

 

[KBurgoyne]

The best place to find that out would be the Gunsmith that you would plan to use for the project. The gunsmith could configure the exact sights, installation method and shop time. My figures would only be a blind guess! GregH

by all means blind guess away. yours is better than mine.

 

[GHarman]

Visit the gunsmith! GregH

 

[KBurgoyne]

Mr. harman or whomever it may concern; ive been driving myself nuts trying to find a sights set up. is there a barrel band that has or accepts a horizontal dovetail that will fit m14 style front sights, or even just a bead setup. i cant find one that looks like it would fit the inline sight base for the barrel band on brownells.

 

[HHhuntitall]

The problem you run into there is that MOST of the model 12s end up with optics, or people just live with the sights they have. The lower mounted, dovetail sights, like the old Remington rifles had, just were never that popular on the bolt guns, so they went to the elevated sights, starting in around '71. If you want a low front sight, you may have a problem, as typically, the smaller sporter contour barrel is below the reciever and line of sight, so a short front sight, with even a short rear sight, will be dead on at 500yds..... I'm afraid you need to look at something more like the factory type sights... ... Even Palma shooters have complained about the lack of good sights readily available to bolt onto the Savage actions for target shooting.....

 

[GHarman]

Thanks HH! The point I am trying to make with KB is that a working gunsmith may have a sight selection, on hand.
While a barrel band front sight may look cool? You need to mate it to a rear sight with the proper elevation in reference to the centerline of the barrel. I do not know what all is available out there, other than what is available through the Brownells Catalog, and various competition shooting outlets. The Brockman front sight for the Marlin could work? Depends on the barrel muzzle diameter. That will require a drill and tap. Its not a barrel band sight. Now you could get a gunsmith to build you a barrel band and fit a sight to it. That would increase the front sight height.
Now to find a rear sight that will give you a 100 yard zero or less? That requires some precise measurements. Get the Idea, KB?
You may need special bases for existing sight applications to get what you want. Do you even have a rifle, as yet?
By the time you get this dream Savage tricked out the Rugers will be available and you will have spent far more on the Savage with custom application sights than just exercising patience and waitiing for a Ruger. Unless, Of Course, If you just got to have the Savage?
Its your dime Brother!
I'm not saying this to be sarcastic or hard nosed. Spec-ing out something, sight unseen, and giving a price on a custom application is not the way I would treat my customer! Especially for a one time application!
Respectfully!
GregH

 

[KBurgoyne]

ill be heading to the gunsmith tomorrow. the reason for the savage is more preferance than just being stubborn, and i think the wsm is a better round than the regular mag. no belt, more efficient burn, slightly higher velocities. so if its worth the dime ill get sights if not, maybe a red dot just to shoot around. a big game scope would work fine for close range shooting, but it seems a sin to put anything less than a 4-10 on a long range rifle. plus lesser savages have shot 1/2 in groups out of the box without developing loads. not that the ruger isnt capable of being a tac driver, but it doesnt have the same potential.

 

[GHarman]

ill be heading to the gunsmith tomorrow. the reason for the savage is more preferance than just being stubborn, and i think the wsm is a better round than the regular mag. no belt, more efficient burn, slightly higher velocities. so if its worth the dime ill get sights if not, maybe a red dot just to shoot around. a big game scope would work fine for close range shooting, but it seems a sin to put anything less than a 4-10 on a long range rifle. plus lesser savages have shot 1/2 in groups out of the box without developing loads. not that the ruger isnt capable of being a tac driver, but it doesnt have the same potential.

KB, Good for you! The WSM is as you say! The Savage comparison to the Ruger is accurate. I havent seen to many tack driving Ruger 77's without some real stock modifications. Even then, the percentage of mediocre barrels on the Rugers is high.

Now the idea of using a red dot sight is outstanding thinking! With a one piece rail mount, the red dot can be interchangeable with a high powered variable scope when your shooting needs change. The money potentially spent on custom iron sight application can help you get set up with the red dot sight and rail mount! A real dual purpose set-up!

I am partial to Ken Farrell rail mounts. They are not cheap! You can get a Piccatinny Rail to fit your Savage with 0 cant or 10, 15, 20, or 30 minute forward cant. That does give you an edge at long range. However, you must have adequate adjustments on the red dot sight to compensate of you desire a 100 yard zero, for instance.

Heres the Ken Farrell web site;

Ken Farrell, Inc. -- Rifle Related Products

There are others out there. Weaver is the cheapest, however not the same quality.

Let us know when you get your rifle.

Have Fun!

GregH

 

[KBurgoyne]

brass monkey

im curious if anyone has used this site before.

Once fired brass casings, nickel casings, Winchester, Hornady, Remington |



in any case where do you get yer brass, and what has given you the best results for the price. obviously nosler custom would work great, but 2 bucks a case doesnt work for me.

 

[GHarman]

For new brass, depends on the cartridges you want? . 45/70-Winchester and Remington.

Precision shooters use Lapua and Norma brass. These are very expensive, but highly precise in most examples.

I find Hornady brass to very soft. and Nosler far to expensive to buy in calibers that are also made by Rem'/'Chester

Used brass requires close inspection. In military calibers, range brass may be once fired or fired multiple times and was left for a reason.

If you know the brass is once fired? Scrounge all you can!

However!

A word of caution. IMHO! Knowing what you are doing is paramount! A few bucks saved is not worth your life or health. A Brass cartridge case is the only thing between you and 40,000-65,000 PSI. Think about that for a few! loosing your eyesight from a separated case head or having a total catastrophic failure is like holding a grenade in front of your face!

I am all for using brass to its limits. But you must inspect each piece thoroughly as it is used. Some can last a huge number of reloads. Some will last only 2 or 3. Depends on the case, chamber geometry , the flexibility of the receiver lock-up and the reloading technique. Annealing brass is another technique to add to case life. It does require additional skills and knowledge to do it correctly.

Learn to do it right, first!

I've not had the pleasure of doing business with the company listed in your link.

Have Fun and be careful!

GregH

Heres a link for new Brass that I believe is as good as any;

Bruno Shooters Supply: Brass

as well as;

Midwayusa.com, Grafs.com, midsouthshooterssupply.com, et al! Watch for sales!