Air Ride dually finally here!

[Dutch & Di]

Hands folded & head bowed!! Hugs Di

 

[Stab]

Amen, Brother, AMEN to that!

 

[Cummins12V98]

Thanks I need all the help I can get!

 

[Stab]

Debadged & Rebadged:

I KNOW, I KNOW! But, it was built in 2014!!

 

[sag2]

There is no confirmation, it is only an estimate. If you check it daily you will see that they try to stay on schedule, but it can change daily. Has it left the plant for sure and do you have a rail car number? If not don't believe it until it actually in on a rail car.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Yea I will believe it when I see it!

 

[HorseMan-AR]

STAB: I absolutely love that truck...still liking it? Ride comfort still good? Any regrets so far in opting for air ride?

Debadged & Rebadged:

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I KNOW, I KNOW! But, it was built in 2014!!

 

[Stab]

STAB: I absolutely love that truck...still liking it? Ride comfort still good? Any regrets so far in opting for air ride?

This truck is awesome! Ride is still the best riding 1 ton I have ever ridden in. We took a 350 mile round trip Sat. Unloaded up & a couple hundred pounds back. (furniture)
The wife woke after a short nap & said: "This sure dosen't fell like you're riding in a truck"! NO REGRETS on the Air Ride. Running 50psi in the tires and it rides real good.
Figuring all the uConnect stuff out and it is pretty cool also.

 

[NickSullivan]

Except for those of us with truck campers.

Bingo! This is why I would never consider this air ride system. I don't think it would hold up to the loads I put my truck through.

 

[Cummins12V98]

This truck is awesome! Ride is still the best riding 1 ton I have ever ridden in. We took a 350 mile round trip Sat. Unloaded up & a couple hundred pounds back. (furniture)
The wife woke after a short nap & said: "This sure dosen't fell like you're riding in a truck"! NO REGRETS on the Air Ride. Running 50psi in the tires and it rides real good.
Figuring all the uConnect stuff out and it is pretty cool also.

All 6 or just rear? I would highly recommend 80 front.

 

[Stab]

Bingo! This is why I would never consider this air ride system. I don't think it would hold up to the loads I put my truck through.

So do I understand that you took the Helwig Air Bags off in your signature?

 

[Stab]

All 6 or just rear? I would highly recommend 80 front.

I'm running empty pressures in all six for now. 50psi all the way around. The fronts heat up to around 55lbs in a matter of minutes of driving. The rears stay about the same so far. Give or take 2-3 lbs. When loaded we usually run 70lbs in front with 80 in rears with SRW trucks. (Or what ever max is) Why so high in the fronts for you 12V98?

 

[AH64ID]

Bingo! This is why I would never consider this air ride system. I don't think it would hold up to the loads I put my truck through.

If you think the air system on the 3500's isn't up to the tasking why install airbags? They are in the same spot as the OEM ones...

Additoinally if your that hard on your truck, weight wise, I'm curious how long it takes the lower stable loads to damage your OEM springs. IMHO they are one of the worst suspension mods on the market for our trucks.

I'm running empty pressures in all six for now. 50psi all the way around. The fronts heat up to around 55lbs in a matter of minutes of driving. The rears stay about the same so far. Give or take 2-3 lbs. When loaded we usually run 70lbs in front with 80 in rears with SRW trucks. (Or what ever max is) Why so high in the fronts for you 12V98?

I don't think 50 is quite enough for the front tires. Curb weight on the front axle is just over 5,000lbs and by the time you add a driver/passenger and anything to the cab it goes up. If it's 5200lbs, probably heavier, that's 2600 a tire which needs at least 68psi on those tires.

www.nexentireusa.com/cms_files/original/Roadian_AT_PRO_RA8_Specs1.xlsx

50 psi is only enough air for around 3800lbs per pair. The reason they heat up to 55 in minutes is due to them being under-inflated.

 

[rynosback]

I was going to spec it out on the 3500 I just ordered. But I plan on using it mainly to tow my 5ver around the country. And if it should every go bad, I'm screwed as the leafs on the truck could not handle the pin weight, not to mention that if just one side went bad it would shift the balance of the load. The traditional set up is bullet proof. I mean Ram has been talking about this for years. Supply was not an issue, as you see Firestone bags on them. The system should not be that complicated as air ride has been on cars since the 70's. So that lack of confidence and taking so long discouraged me from ordering that option.

 

[NickSullivan]

Unless something has changed from what I have seen on the Ram website they are not the same suspension setup. I use my air bags as a secondary load leveling device in conjunction with my leaf springs. Not for primary load carrying the air ride suspension does. You loose any component of the air bag setup and your dead on the side of the road with no suspension or one leaf and 6000 lbs in your bed.

 

[AH64ID]

The released OEM setup is more of a supplemental system than it originally appeared to be. It was always supplemental on a 3500, but there are more leaves on the production version.

It is a softer suspension, but you won't be stuck if something fails.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I'm running empty pressures in all six for now. 50psi all the way around. The fronts heat up to around 55lbs in a matter of minutes of driving. The rears stay about the same so far. Give or take 2-3 lbs. When loaded we usually run 70lbs in front with 80 in rears with SRW trucks. (Or what ever max is) Why so high in the fronts for you 12V98?

I used to run 72 at all times on the front of my 98 2500 quad cab and 45 rear solo 80 towing. I would easily get 100-120K on a set of BFG or Michelin's.

With my 5K pin I add less then 200# to the front axle. This truck is much heavier on the front axle than my 98. I only rotate side to side on the fronts with this Dually. With 5,200# on the front axle and the turning wear 80 psi is needed. I have 53K on MS2's with just under 2/3 tread left with a lot of towing miles. I run 45 solo and 60 loaded with very even tread wear. Even with 80 the outer edges are slightly more worn.

Weigh your TV with and without RV you will be amazed at low little weight is added to the steering axle.

Hot tire pressure is not what you want to care about. AH64ID has it right you need more air, with my experience I highly recommend 80 front at all times 45 solo rear and with 5K pin as I have 60 when towing.

 

[Cummins12V98]

The released OEM setup is more of a supplemental system than it originally appeared to be. It was always supplemental on a 3500, but there are more leaves on the production version.

It is a softer suspension, but you won't be stuck if something fails.

I agree it won't leave you stranded.

 

[Stab]

I don't think 50 is quite enough for the front tires. Curb weight on the front axle is just over 5,000lbs and by the time you add a driver/passenger and anything to the cab it goes up. If it's 5200lbs, probably heavier, that's 2600 a tire which needs at least 68psi on those tires.

www.nexentireusa.com/cms_files/original/Roadian_AT_PRO_RA8_Specs1.xlsx

50 psi is only enough air for around 3800lbs per pair. The reason they heat up to 55 in minutes is due to them being under-inflated.

Yes you are correct AH641D, I was just testing to see what was up with the tires and their pressures.
I planned on doing all the calculations on pressures when we got closer to loading. The fronts do squat some with 50 in them.
There's a lot to take in with these new trucks!! Thanks for the web site also.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I was going to spec it out on the 3500 I just ordered. But I plan on using it mainly to tow my 5ver around the country. And if it should every go bad, I'm screwed as the leafs on the truck could not handle the pin weight, not to mention that if just one side went bad it would shift the balance of the load. The traditional set up is bullet proof. I mean Ram has been talking about this for years. Supply was not an issue, as you see Firestone bags on them. The system should not be that complicated as air ride has been on cars since the 70's. So that lack of confidence and taking so long discouraged me from ordering that option.

Hey everyone we have a new member!!!

He came here from the Mobile Suites Forum. Hope I had some influence with your decision to join. You will see a couple friendly faces around here from the MS Forum. Happy to have you here.

Really amazing how many new RAM owners are being added there since I joined 3 years ago. It used to be a Blue Oval good ol boys club.