Am I the only one having problems with new motor?

[KWAYNE]

Im located in Tomball,TX & use the truck for Hot-shot work.

So I travel all over the United States but stay around Houston most of the time.

 

[Caveman]

Mine just turned 2500 miles and no issues yet. I just wish the A/C cooled down the truck a little quicker.

 

[HLewallen]

Just re-read my post and it sounded very misleading - my truck has 1500 miles on it, but from the time the MIL went off to 100% Cat was under 50 miles.

 

[KWAYNE]

Well Im on my third day since the re-flash on the computer & my engine light came back on so back to the dealer I go... ...

 

[KnightR]

Dang you guys are scaring this new kid. 50K and it goes back for warranty work? Keep it up a 1970 chevrolet with a 350 and 400 trans is sounding better each day. My wifes (believe it or not $40K VW) car cost her $100 each time I take it in for a check up. That's $50 more than I paid for my first car and drove it for $5 years.

 

[RHaber]

The concerns are becoming more prominent with those who have high idle times, especially in areas of high altitudes. Although all the 6. 7's do have this problem, some will not encounter it as soon or perhaps not at all before the issue is resolved simply because we use our trucks differently and live in different regions. Most don't know that when in the regen stage you must drive the vehicle for 45 minutes and no less that 1700 to 1800 rpm's without interruption or the process will not complete itself. The programming for the problems the injection system is coming and will resolve the issue. Secondly, never, ever use anything other than ULSD fuel. You will pay for it in the long run. Vehicle's using fuel from thier private tanks are more likely to have problems due to greater risk of contaminants. It is very important that the fuel filter be replaced as required by the manufacturer. Would suggest having a second fuel fliter and water seperator installed in-line prior to the main fuel filter. The fuel systems that the new 07"s have are much less forgiving. Also note that the injectors are cylinder specific and are programmed into the PCM with each having thier specific indentification number. Do not under any circumstances have a performance package upgrade/program installed.

 

[jcarey]

RHaber, thanks for the info.



That's wild about the injectors. How does the PCM read the ID number? A chip in hte injector?

 

[Wolfy]

Most don't know that when in the regen stage you must drive the vehicle for 45 minutes and no less that 1700 to 1800 rpm's without interruption or the process will not complete itself.

Are we to believe that Dodge/Cummins has given us a machine that will ONLY "complete" a required cycle IF it happens to occur when an "un-interrupted" 45 minute stretch of 73-77 mph driving is in process? I. e. , a 55-58 mile stretch with no traffic lights, etc. , at over-most-legal-speed-limit speeds (with a 3. 73 rear axle in 6th gear - usual gear for level running at this speed)???



Does everyone have such a stretch in their usual commute or daily drive? Is there a guarantee, somehow that the ECM will sense this stretch,... and the BEGINNING of this stretch, at that, ... and begin the process with sufficient drive time/distance ahead to complete the regeneration?



Or are we doomed, by this "plan", to experience X% of incompleted cycles, due to the real (Hello!) nature of normal use, with resulting inevitable increased contamination of the DPF?



"But officer,... my truck had begun a regen cycle,... and I couldn't slow down or stop!"



Is there a "Dive! Dive!" type alarm which goes off to insure that the driver is aware that the cycle has begun (in case he isn't attentively and constantly watching his exhaust), and can then, if nothing else, while caught in stop/go traffic, down shift or sit in neutral and rev. his engine for 45 minutes, to the irritation and consternation of any nearby drivers, particularly the non smoke-lovers? Road rage anyone?



"Fired? But Boss, my truck started a regen just as I was about to turn into the parking lot,... so I had to stay on the road and drive another 45 minutes! You understand, don't you? Don't you have a Dodge?"



This is REALLY hard to believe!



RHaber, no offense intended, but your post histgory shows a total of 2 posts at this web-site. Your profile gives zero info about you, and I don't have time to search through the 2,300,000 links found after a "R. Haber" serarch.



Would you mind explaining how it is you have this "regen" info,... i. e. , what is your authoritative source?



Would certainly be interested in hearing more about this.

 

[EMD-Run8]

I'm bettin' a lot of it is fuel related. Just a hunch. You can bet Cummins shook these engines down with ULSD. Also, These engines are approved for up to 20% Biodiesel (or is it still 5%?). Bio DOES drastically reduce smoke (particulate) which is plugging some of the emissions equipment. If I get a 6. 7, I'll be runnin' it.

 

[TKeeler]

Are we to believe that Dodge/Cummins has given us a machine that will ONLY "complete" a required cycle IF it happens to occur when an "un-interrupted" 45 minute stretch of 73-77 mph driving is in process? I. e. , a 55-58 mile stretch with no traffic lights, etc. , at over-most-legal-speed-limit speeds (with a 3. 73 rear axle in 6th gear - usual gear for level running at this speed)???



Does everyone have such a stretch in their usual commute or daily drive? Is there a guarantee, somehow that the ECM will sense this stretch,... and the BEGINNING of this stretch, at that, ... and begin the process with sufficient drive time/distance ahead to complete the regeneration?

Well said... my normal drive to work each morning and home each evening is about 20 miles and 20 minutes. Very seldom is it going to see 45 minutes at 2000 rpm. I have just over 2,000 miles so far and I have yet to know when mine has went into regen. , been nice if we had some kind of indicator light if it's going to be that damn important to drive 45 minutes at 2000 rpm.



Wolfy... no truck yet?

 

[betterthanstock]

RHaber, no offense intended, but your post histgory shows a total of 2 posts at this web-site. Your profile gives zero info about you, and I don't have time to search through the 2,300,000 links found after a "R. Haber" serarch.

Clearly you need to learn how to do detective work. In less time than it took you to type half a page I found this



Specials-Service Roger Williams Chrysler Dodge Jeep Weatherford TX

 

[Wolfy]

Clearly you need to learn how to do detective work. In less time than it took you to type half a page I found this



Specials-Service Roger Williams Chrysler Dodge Jeep Weatherford TX

Well, "betterthan",



We all have our special talents.



I'm trainable.



Maybe next time include an explanation of how you found it.



Here's my smiley-face.



Missed yours.

 

[Wolfy]

Wolfy... no truck yet?

Hi Terry,



Gauges being installed as we speak. All other stuff already aboard, cabin heat, fore/aft runningboards, turbo-temp shut-down, fuel-pressure light, Hi-idle,etc. Pick-up next Wed/Thurs via rental car to spokane, drive new rig home.



Best wishes,

 

[HLewallen]

I myself am a little upset that a Dodge service manager does not identify himself as such on a forum such as this. I would call that improper. And I certainly don't want to hear more brainwashing from Dodge that if something goes wrong, you put bad fuel in it! I run ULSD in my 6. 7 from only THE most respectable, highest volume, truckstop in the Tucson area. And I am very angry that these trucks make me feel I have to! The truck should be designed for the infrastructure in place when and where it is being sold!



Those requirements for completing a regen cycle are absurd. I would like to give the engineers who came up with that system the benefit of the doubt, but if that description is accurate, they completely failed to meet the requirements of a light truck. Am I supposed to drive to a different city just to accomplish a regen cycle?



I would also like to know if RHaber will be covering the cost of replacing lift pumps (and any engine damage) when they fail and Dodge denies warranty due to the extra restriction of the filter/water separator he suggests. Don't even get me started on what that says of the adequacy of the stock fuel filtering system.

 

[betterthanstock]

Well, "betterthan",



We all have our special talents.



I'm trainable.



Maybe next time include an explanation of how you found it.



Here's my smiley-face.



Missed yours.

I clicked on his name, view user profile, highlighted his last name (it's in fine print), pasted into explorer "live search", and there it was, first thing.

 

[betterthanstock]

. Although all the 6. 7's do have this problem, some will not encounter it as soon or perhaps not at all before the issue is resolved simply because we use our trucks differently ... ... The programming for the problems the injection system is coming and will resolve the issue.

He's acknowledging the programming gaffe, and that they will reflash to fix so you won;t have to drive for 45 miles.

 

[BBeck]

I'm bettin' a lot of it is fuel related. Just a hunch. You can bet Cummins shook these engines down with ULSD. Also, These engines are approved for up to 20% Biodiesel (or is it still 5%?). Bio DOES drastically reduce smoke (particulate) which is plugging some of the emissions equipment. If I get a 6. 7, I'll be runnin' it.

According to Cummins, you can run B20, but only if you have an additional fuel/water separator installed.



I plan to do the same

 

[DSpivey]

well i tell you what if this fuel mileage dont get better quick this thing is gone!!!!!! dont get me wrong the power and ride a towing r the best but this thing drinks too much fuel

 

[Sky]

well i tell you what if this fuel mileage dont get better quick this thing is gone!!!!!! dont get me wrong the power and ride a towing r the best but this thing drinks too much fuel

Gee I cant wait until I start my $700 truck pmt next week hearing this... ... ...

 

[FATCAT]

Gee I cant wait until I start my $700 truck pmt next week hearing this... ... ...

$700/month!!! That could have bought a lot of upgrades for your 2001 truck over the next year.



I think a lot of folks on this board and the DTR will be rethinking any ideas of purchasing a new truck for some time due to the problems and poor mileage people are reporting.



I think I'm going to drop a few grand into my old rust bucket and try to get at least 3-4 more years out of it.