Amsoil not API certified

[lschultz]

Texas Diesel throw that gas on a flame and run.

 

[me4osu]

Chicken Sheet

 

[Texas Diesel]

 

[John Berger]

TexasDiesel, why did you start the thread in the first place? Oil topics are always a hot button issue. That's why I like reading them



I know I probably answered my own question, but what the hell. I got to get to a thousand posts somehow :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Deezul1]

jwilliams3



Where did you get your API certified Dello? Mine says meets API specs but there is no Certification seal on the bottle?

Dello 400.

 

[Mike Ellis]

Time for Some Intellectual Debate...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Foolish synthetic using mortals! So what if your pathetic synthetics give extended change periods, better wear protection, less startup wear, and improved sexual performance?!! Our oil smells better! Tastes better! Stains clothes better!



Our dino oil has withstood the test of time. Seeping quietly out of the bodies of decomposing dinosaurs, it rested in dark underground crevices for thousands of millenia, sloooowly soaking up vital nutrients from the rich earth. When mankind first crawled out of his cave and wondered sadly if WD-40 would really make his stone axe rust, our dino oil was still fermenting beneath the earth - gathering potency and flavor, like a fine wine filtered through a Frenchman's socks. Clean, sterile synthetics can never match the rich complexity of the dino oils. They can never achieve the olfactory symphony embodied in Rotella. At best, they can only hope to be a soulless, joyless imitation of "The Real Thing". Meanwhile, we thunder down the road with the carnivorous DNA of Tyrannosaurus Rex roaring through the oil nozzles of our engines, thirsting for the weak synthetic blood of of our veggie-eating prey. Beware the Thunder Lizards, synthetic-using mortals, and as you cower in your fern-covered caves, ponder the question of the ages: How will YOUR oil look in 10 million years?!



BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Beware the Thunder Lizards!

 

[lschultz]

What kind of mind do you have to come up with such an explanation. I'm speechless You ain't got nothing on Doc T.

 

[Deezul1]

Mike Ellis

I love it when is chapter 2 coming?

 

[PRout]

Yikes. . This is such a "slippery" subject...

 

[jwilliams3]

Delo 400 15w40 from Chevron is API certified, also the round API symbol on the rear of the bottle shows which classifications this brand of oil falls into.



--Justin

 

[redram]

Originally posted by Steve St. Laurent

Do a search on "API AMSOIL" - you'll find 70 threads and 2646 posts discussing this issue. It has been discussed at GREAT length.

Most of the discussions about this topic have been put forth by possibly "biased" opinions as most of the post authors are "dealers" for said product and will profit by their comments. You too can become a dealer for X number of green backs. That's what an MLM company is composed of.



How many of the dealers are actually knowledgeable about lubrication or are jsut repeating "marketing hype and prose".



thanks for giving me the opportunity to express a personal opinion.

 

[Diesel Freak]

Re: Time for Some Intellectual Debate...

Originally posted by Mike Ellis

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Foolish synthetic using mortals! So what if your pathetic synthetics give extended change periods, better wear protection, less startup wear, and improved sexual performance?!! Our oil smells better! Tastes better! Stains clothes better!



Our dino oil has withstood the test of time. Seeping quietly out of the bodies of decomposing dinosaurs, it rested in dark underground crevices for thousands of millenia, sloooowly soaking up vital nutrients from the rich earth. When mankind first crawled out of his cave and wondered sadly if WD-40 would really make his stone axe rust, our dino oil was still fermenting beneath the earth - gathering potency and flavor, like a fine wine filtered through a Frenchman's socks. Clean, sterile synthetics can never match the rich complexity of the dino oils. They can never achieve the olfactory symphony embodied in Rotella. At best, they can only hope to be a soulless, joyless imitation of "The Real Thing". Meanwhile, we thunder down the road with the carnivorous DNA of Tyrannosaurus Rex roaring through the oil nozzles of our engines, thirsting for the weak synthetic blood of of our veggie-eating prey. Beware the Thunder Lizards, synthetic-using mortals, and as you cower in your fern-covered caves, ponder the question of the ages: How will YOUR oil look in 10 million years?!



BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! Beware the Thunder Lizards!

I was avoiding this thread like the plague, but the above post made looking in worth it.

 

[Diesel Freak]

Originally posted by Texas Diesel

jwilliams3, I second your point. especially the 4 ball wear test.

If Slick 50 did just as well in a 4 ball wear test I may run it in my truck!:-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[amsoilman]

Jwilliams3,

How about 30 years of producing "Extended Drain" Engine oils! That should show Amsoil oils do what the Company says they will do. After all, they were the very first Company to produce a Synthetic Motor oil, and they went up against every major oil Company as well as the Automobile manufacturers. Now ALL oil Companies have synthetic oils, and many automobile Companies put synthetic oils in at the factory!



Personally, I have used their products for 22 years now, and I will continue to do so.



My . 02 cents



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[Texas Diesel]

Originally posted by redram





Most of the discussions about this topic have been put forth by possibly "biased" opinions as most of the post authors are "dealers" for said product and will profit by their comments. You too can become a dealer for X number of green backs. That's what an MLM company is composed of.



How many of the dealers are actually knowledgeable about lubrication or are jsut repeating "marketing hype and prose".



thanks for giving me the opportunity to express a personal opinion.

Is there any organization that does oil evaluations. like Consumer Reports for other stuff? I remember reading that the FTC came down hard on Slick 50 and some others before, not that I am comparing Amsoil toSlick 50, just wondering how the FTC determined these to be false claims. Slick 50 made billions because people believed them, I was one :{ . I agree that any manufacturer can essentially make any claim they want, and in MLM ( pyramid sales ) the resellers have a vested interest in promoting their product i. e. , selling. I would like to know if there are any studies of the different oil manufacturers to show how they perform. Surely there has to be a way to get some "hard data" or am I just dreaming?

 

[fj40charles]

>>>Is there any organization that does oil evaluations?



I think that would be the folks that are responsible for putting the little API donut on the lables of bottles. This doesn't mean all API certified oils are equal in quality, but does assure that it meets some minimum criteria. I think Amsoil would/should meet it, but they did not pay to have it certified, therefore cannot make the claim and therefore is not API certified on some of their oils.



Charles

 

[Diesel Freak]

I am not doubting that AMSOIL can and does work, but you would think that any Corporation that wanted to boost sales would jump through a few hoops to receive a certification so the Lay person would know that AMSOIL was approved for use in their engine and hence increasing sales.



I wonder why they are still banking on pyramid marketing?

 

[Texas Diesel]

Here is the FTC thing against Slick 50





http://skepdic.com/slick50.html

Especially interesting reading is in the middle of the page, "zinc: good for the common cold & your car's engine", follow the link there called "testimonials"



More:



http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/9607/slick.htm



Interesting statement in last two sentances, third paragraph.

 

[illflem]

We all know that Amsoil works just as well or better than any API certified oil. The problem lies with DC's requirement that we use certified oil. If this a concern to you just don't use it, there are plenty of other certified synthetics and dino oils to choose from.

 

[rrausch]

Looks like Quaker State didn't make enough Political Contributions!



Heck, I believed 'em, I used Slick 50 in my old Chevy 3/4 ton all through the 1990's.