Applying Crazy Seal Protective Coating to My RV Roof

[Wiredawg]

Bruthas,

I cut into sides and components on the roof today for second coat and I also rolled first coat on the rest of RV. I'll roll second (final) coat tomorrow.
See pics:

So far, i rate the project 4 stars out of 5. I'm doing this almost out of my physical ability and have stretched it out too long. I say this because the Crazy seal is starting to slightly clump. I interpret this as it started curing as soon as I opened the material. I opened both the five gallon and three gallon buckets to make sure material was good, not thinking exposing it to air started the curing process. I believe the amount of time this SHOULD take is 3 to 4 days and I've taken about 11 days, so I don't slight the manufacturer. I forced myself today to roll the first coat and roll second coat tomorrow because material is starting to degrade.

I'll post final pics when I apply 2nd coat tomorrow and in a few days letting max curing and drying before mounting AC covers, TV and satellite antennas, and fantastic fan covers next week.

Having pain meds and going to margaritaville now.

Cheers, Ron

 

[TFucili]

Ron, is there an approved solvent to cut it a bit to account for what flashes off, and eliminate clumping? If there is not enough vehicle it could prevent proper "wetting" which promotes substrate adhesion.

 

[DavidC]

Maybe that's where the Liquid Rubber may be a better choice as you actually mix the catalyst in when you use it. Of course you have to use all of it or throw it away.

 

[JR]

Are you leaving the containers in your shop all the time?

I know our painters used to store mixed paint in an old fridge if they needed to buy time before they could use the rest of their paint. Even single part marine grade epoxys and urethanes once opened would slowly start to kick. If it's moisture cure heat and humidity are your enemy. Storing them in A/C or even a cool basement would most likely buy you some time.

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

I think its doing OK, the instructions say they not to cut it or thin it. I think I'm on the edge of it turning. There are lots of materials that once you open them, there's a time limit to us them, so no complaint, just pointing out this isn't intended to be more than a week project.

I would definitely do this again, but I would force myself to suck up the schedule.

All is good in Pleasantville!

Thanks for the replies and support. I'll be happy to be done tomorrow with applying the product.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

One more thing for any considering this or any other coating for thier RV roof: Although not required I've found having tall scaffolding makes doing this a little easier access on and off the roof and for access to materials.

Just something I've neglected to mention. I use rope to hoist materials tools up.

EDIT: Just wanted to add I have air moving high up with outside temps near and at 100°. The material isn't clumpy coming out of the bucket, it's getting slightly clumpy rolling it. The consistancy isn't noticeably thicker pouring or stirring it, so outside temp could be affecting consistancy and curing while applying. All the cutting in second coat was completely dry after 4 hours, the bottom end manufacturer mentions for drying. Just had a little more time to think about temperature conditions.

Cheers and beers, Ron

 

[HPSimpson]

Ron, Your health is more important, once you have clumps it's already curing and from your instructions you cannot stop the progress must be hot in central Texas, good luck mite be trouble on Sunday putting final coat on, we will wait and see.

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

I don't think I've ever mentioned on the TDR that hydro therapy helps me recover a little quicker from physical activities the docs say I shouldn't do.

We have a Master Spa swim spa that has two 5hp pumps and a 5hp motor operating the big propeller for the swimming part of it. Just did 45 minutes in it and feel a lot better.

If any of y'all suffer from chronic degenerative disk disease in your back and neck, and bad arthritis in your hands and feet, this can help. If you get a letter from your doctor, at least in TX, you can buy it tax free.

Anyhoo 45 minutes in the swim spa, pain med. and a good night's sleep I'll have enough recovery to finish the job. Like I mentioned, I'll wait a few days to put all the components back on the roof.

Cheers and thanks for you kind thoughts and concern.

Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

Whelp, must have been combination of applying Crazy Seal in 100° heat AND the material curing faster because it is at or near end of life due to extended time after opening???? Not sure, but not going to waste too many brain cells overthinking it.

I am having serious back spasms from overdoing my limits... I knew I would, which is why I knocked this out now while I can still (barely) do it.

Next post in a few days, I will summarize the experience, opinion, and recommendations if anyone considering applying a coating to their roofs.

For now, pain killer, muscle relaxer, and very limited physical activity over next few days.

Cheers and Happy Trails to You, Ron

 

[Jim W]

Ron, did you get the last coat on or is it too late? So, far the roof looks great!

Nice set up that you have at your residency and you are very lucky that you have a storage building large enough for your trailer!

My Cedar Creek is stored outside and if I every went this way with the Crazy Seal roof material I would hires someone to do this. Hoping it does not rain when working the Crazy Seal material on the roof. My luck they would start and it will than storm for a week.

 

[Wiredawg]

Ron, did you get the last coat on or is it too late? So, far the roof looks great!

Nice set up that you have at your residency and you are very lucky that you have a storage building large enough for your trailer!

My Cedar Creek is stored outside and if I every went this way with the Crazy Seal roof material I would hires someone to do this. Hoping it does not rain when working the Crazy Seal material on the roof. My luck they would start and it will than storm for a week.

Yep Jim, this was the second and final coat. Hiring someone is good move. Doing this outside here in the Summer is pretty safe to plan a job like this. With full sun, you would be fine with 4 hours... it sets pretty good. Even with my "CONVECTION OVEN" affect of moving hot air, I was fine with 4hrs setup, but prefer 12hrs setting that worked well with my 4hrs ideal working time. The two times I worked 6 hrs took me over the top.

Anyhoo, happy to share info and answer questions. I'm going to email Crazy Seal with some questions and recommendations to clarify and emphasize in their instructions.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Cummins12V98]

What as STUD!!!

 

[Wiredawg]

Howdy Fellow TDR Pals

I applied third coat to sides, which perttied them up. I purchased enough material to cover the roof and sides of a 40' x 8' 4" wide roof, which the RV is 39' 11", but the end caps are about 2' long.

Anyhoo, I dumped 3/4 gallon of Crazy Patch into 2.5 gallons of Crazy Seal, giving me over 3 gallons of material. I used a fluffy roller and rolled out a slight orange peel finish, which might have a slightly less slippery surface when wet. Honestly, unless the roof was completely dry. I would crawl on it if I had to get on top.

I just have to say having a 3/16" thick roof already displays increased strength and rigidity when walking on two dried coats. It doesn't give slightly anymore when walking on it. I can attest to the adhesion of it, as some dripped onto the waxed automotive paint on the side of the RV. I scraped with plastic razor blade, it stubbornly removed the silicon with much effort, but still outline of adhesion, like when you remove a snail from a wall. I got some WD40, no luck, got some mineral spirits that removed most of it but if you look up close you can still slightly see it. So it has great adhesion, which is testiment to how well it works on stripped (roof protective treatment), cleaned (pressure washed) roof.

Here are pics,

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I'm whooped and in reconstitution mode. Manged to limp over to the pellet grill and put on some country style pork ribs.

Cya later, Ron

 

[HPSimpson]

Sure looks great the top is well done, great job! Now take easy for couple days before you put the covers on A/c units.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I would paint the top of your AC covers if you have enough left.
Black covers look nice but.......

 

[Wiredawg]

I would paint the top of your AC covers if you have enough left.
Black covers look nice but.......

Ron,

We agree white would be better, but the bucket was bone dry. I guess they'll stay black for now.

Thanks, Ron

 

[DavidC]

I am not a chemist/scientist and only going by what I saw in the above ground mining industry. We always used black wire ties for cords etc.. One time we tried whites and found they disintegrated in a Month. Needless to say we went back to the black.

 

[Wiredawg]

I am not a chemist/scientist and only going by what I saw in the above ground mining industry. We always used black wire ties for cords etc.. One time we tried whites and found they disintegrated in a Month. Needless to say we went back to the black.

Copy Dave. If exposed to sunlight, I prefer to use metal ties, but actual industrial nylon cable ties will work, i have both black and nylon opaque, not really white. We used to lace cables when I was a communications tech long ago.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Cummins12V98]

How bout RED fire rated cable ties for plenum ceilings?

 

[Wiredawg]

How bout RED fire rated cable ties for plenum ceilings?

Yep, those too. I cant count how many miles of communications cable we ran in buildings, computer rooms, and SCIFs.

I keep a collection of cable ties in the shop. The big ones are 36", most are UV rated. That and cable loom.

Cheers, Ron