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The price of Liberty, is STILL "eternal vigilance"!



The gun-grabbers seem to be constantly trying to find new entry/attack points to use grabbing and destroying the 2nd amendment! I have little doubt they WILL eventually succeed in this country, just as they have in most others - but we'd best keep up the delaying game as long as we can.



"Politicians want gun control for the same reasons criminals do - they BOTH fear victims who can shoot back!"



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I guess that means I will have to submit to a mental evaluation before I can stuff some powder and a ball down the barrell of my muzzle loader? This is really not funny. I'm afraid we are in for a really rough road ahead. bg
 
"Politicians want gun control for the same reasons criminals do - they BOTH fear victims who can shoot back!"



You got that right!



This new "change" gov't is just like a sneeky snake. Ya better watch it.
 
Contact your Senators Now!

Early contact is crucial to eliminate this kind of language from any treaty being considered. GregH
 
Early contact is crucial to eliminate this kind of language from any treaty being considered. GregH



You know, this subject brings up an interesting question:



IS it legal under our nation's Constitution for a President and legislators to sign or otherwise adopt treaties with foreign countries that can be shown to be contrary to what that Constitution sets forth as the governing principles of this nation?
 
Gary, that comes down to the checks and balances provided by the three branch structure of our government (executive, legislative and judicial). The judicial branch can rule actions taken by either of the other two as unconstitutional. The downside, of course, is that someone would have to be arrested and charged in order for the issue to come before a court.

I fully agree that this is nothing more than a creative approach to curtail the 2nd amendment. I'm sure we can expect more stuff like this too. Obama and Biden are the most anti-gun President and Vice-President this country has seen in many, many years.

Mike
 
Gary, that comes down to the checks and balances provided by the three branch structure of our government (executive, legislative and judicial). The judicial branch can rule actions taken by either of the other two as unconstitutional... .



And, more completely, any branch can determine that actions taken by another branch are unconstitutional, and follow up with suitable constitutional action.



And, technically, law that is unconstitutional is not law and can never be law; it is automatically null and void. And, technically, any sworn executive or judicial officer attempting to enforce a non-law is himself or herself an outlaw without authority.



Only sheeple meekly allow outlaws to bully them.



But this is all immaterial. It really comes down to two personal questions:
  • Is it worth your life to maintain the Constitution as the highest law of the land?
  • Should it cost bullies, thugs and outlaws hiding behind guns, shields and 'the law' their lives to discard the Constitution or to put themselves or their words above the Constitution?



Just remember 'quo warranto': "By what authority do you arrest me?"
 
Article VI, second paragraph states:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.



Treaties can take precedence over the Constitution. A former Representative from Idaho, Congressman Helen Chenoweth, introduced an amendment that (originally written by Senator John Bricker from Ohio) that would have made the Constitution supreme, but the amendment didn’t pass.



It’s (past) time to write our legislators to reintroduce this proposed amendment.
 
Article VI, second paragraph states:





Treaties can take precedence over the Constitution. A former Representative from Idaho, Congressman Helen Chenoweth, introduced an amendment that (originally written by Senator John Bricker from Ohio) that would have made the Constitution supreme, but the amendment didn’t pass.



It’s (past) time to write our legislators to reintroduce this proposed amendment.



Thanks for this information. I will include it in further communication with my Senators and Representative. GregH
 
All good comments on the issue of Constitution vs Treaties - and well worth further investigation!



Gary, that comes down to the checks and balances provided by the three branch structure of our government (executive, legislative and judicial). The judicial branch can rule actions taken by either of the other two as unconstitutional. The downside, of course, is that someone would have to be arrested and charged in order for the issue to come before a court.



Unfortunately, the above trusts and ASSUMES the honesty and impartial integrity of all parties in positions of judgement and power... BUT, if you live in the dimly lit world of political and judicial distrust I do, and sincerely believe that the vast majority of those in the respective branches of government all come from the SAME basic "pot", and are externally manipulated and subtly pressured by devious sources OUTSIDE of a formal and elected base, THEN the far-reaching decisions and judgements handed down and actively enforced by the figureheads standing on the front row, become the oppressive and abusive law of the land, whether "we the people" agree or not - and if we DISagree, and actively resist, WE become the criminals and lawbreakers - Constitution or not! :mad:



"Trust" our "leaders" to do the right and honorable thing for the nation and voting public?



Sorry - not me! ;)



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We, the People

Gary, I do agree with your lack of trust. Historically, they have enough antigun baggage to keep Pippi Longstocking on full alert. However, there are those that will listen! I havent given up on communication, yet! Heller vs. D. C. Actually put the Second Amendment back in its proper place as a legitimate Right, (Thankyou Judicial Branch!!) as opposed to an also-ran in the "drug and crime catagory" with Colorado Democratic Senators and a Colorado Democratic Representative. Previous communication on this subject, with elected Democrats, in Colorado, was met with partyline rhetoric. Now they are responding in an individually thoughtful manner. We shall see if they can walk the talk;). All of us will be watching:cool:. That is the priviledge, Right and Responsibility of the self governed citizen. GregH
 
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