BD Exhaust Brake and Auto-Loc

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I need a exhaust brake and would like to use the BD and Auto-Loc. But will this work on my stock exhaust for now and then also work when I later add a 4 inch turbo to tail set-up? Also how hard is installation of the BD in the exhaust and the Auto-Loc? Later as money permits (sooner than later I hope) I would like to have BD torque convertor- valve kit(shift kit) Torque-Loc installed. Should I wait and do this all at once or can I do just the brake now? Does the Auto-Loc install on the transmission outside? Try to help me out if not I,ll call BD. Thanks!

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover _ALASKA

 

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Terry; I installed a BD brake and Auto-Loc on my Dodge last Oct. The brake itself was easy, probably took about 2 hours. The Auto-Loc itself is an electronic unit. I mounted mine under the dash with velcro and tie wraps. I thought the instructions left a little bit to be desired but read them through a few times and you should be ok. BD could use the services of a good tech writer. They seem real good over the phone with problem help. Getting the wiring installed correctly took me the best part of a day. My biggest problem was counting the control unit connectors from thr right direction. I counted from under the hood left to right for 1 to 3. It should have been right to left. Some of the wires you need to find in cable bundles are a little tough to locate. Having the Dodge service book is a real help. As far as later connection to a 4" exhaust, I haven't a clue as to how it will work. Call BD, they are good about questions. The Auto-loc works just as advertised, your transmission MUST be in lockup mode before you get any braking. ie. If you ingage the brake before the transmission locks up you get nothing. An exhaust brake does absolutely nothing with an auto transmission alone. I changed my wiring a little and mounted a small switch on the shift lever close to the end so the overdrive and brake switch are handy to one another. It works very well and I am quite satisfied with the Auto-Loc & brake. Before you buy be sure you know the difference between the Auto-Loc & Torque-Loc, You may like the Torque-Loc better. It can also act like a mystery switch. It took me a while to decide what I wanted. Don

 

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Terry,

Take Dons suggestion about looking into torque-loc. I have talked to BD in the last week. I understand they have upgraded torque-loc in the recent past, so that in one position of a three position switch it IS Auto-loc. Then, of course, you retain the ability to lock up the TC in another position or disable altogether in the third.

I am going this way even if a few bucks more.
One reason is that I intend to put the torque-loc on soon and the exhaust brake later, 'cause I can't afford both now, but want to get the increased braking (and avoided transmission overheating) the torque-loc will give me, even if I don't have all the braking I would get with the exhaust brake.

2 cents.

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2001 SLT Auto, 4x2, LWB White, camper/towing options, Line-x over-rail liner, Oem black molded running boards, Oem molded rear splash guards, Powervision mirrors, Black Bug deflector (with eyebrows) Oem CD radio, Dash Carpet, Black louvered tailgate, 5th wheel Hitch. Guages and "real" sheepskin (charcoal) seatcovers coming real soon. No bombing planned, --well maybe -- 275 hp injectors -- someday.

 

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Turbo Terry, for the "few" extra dollars, the BD TorqLoc is well worth the money. The latest version (2. 1) has the operational features Nelson Buck described (manual TCC lock up, OE operation, and AutoLoc mode) PLUS, the OD inversion feature. This feature (if you choose to hook it up) automatically starts the transmission with the OD off as opposed to the OE, OD on. I had the TorqLoc version without the OD inversion feature, electing to upgrade to the 2. 1 version so I could obtain this desired (by me) feature.

To answer your question: "Does the AutoLoc install on the transmission outside?", All AutoLoc or TorqLoc connections are made "outside" the transmission however, there is one wire on the outside of the transmission that has to be "looped" through the AutoLoc or TorqLoc ECM by cutting one wire and splicing each cut end of same to two wires from the AutoLoc or TorqLoc. The remainder of the wiring is connected under the hood. . I elected to make the connections near the PCM. The TorqLoc has a 3 position switch, the AutoLoc does not need a switch (the AutoLoc is ONLY used in conjunction with an exhaust brake), so, if the exhaust brake is active, so is the AutoLoc.

Since you have a '99 24v, you will have to purchase the turbo to exhaust brake adaptor which runs about $90. from BD. With the OE turbine housing, it does not matter which exhaust system is utilized, all of them will bolt right up to the exhaust brake with two bolts (like the '94s through the '98. 5s). The exhaust brake is very easy to install, the TorqLoc or AutoLoc require a higher degree of (assumed) knowledge of automotive electronics. As Don Edmonds stated, the installation instructions leave something to be desired. It's easier to more or less bypass the written installation instructions instead, following the wiring schematic. BD's customer service is excellant. . they can and will help you through any difficulties you may encounter.

Next on my list (before May Madness): BD "Medium Stall" TC, BD valve body, and BD PressureLoc. #ad


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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4, (BLACK) SLT Sport, ISB, LWB, 3. 54 LSD, A/T, Glasstite Vision II canopy, Line-X bed liner, 285/75R16 BFG A/Ts on 16x8 M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares, front and rear NW Custom stainless steel/rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover and trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Mopar tow hooks, Jordan Research Ultima 2020 trailer brake controller, VDO Vision gauges, PIAA Dual Sport 900 auxiliary lights and Super White bulbs, BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc, Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit, Bosch 275 hp. injectors, VA CPC, DD Boost Module, Banks Stinger wastegate actuator, "Scotty Air System", BLACK '00 valve cover, Hitco/Geno's exhaust blanket, Femco/Geno's EZ Drain oil pan plug, Banks Stinger 4" dia. stainless steel exhaust system, plus many other trick modifications

'00 Polaris 6x6

 

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Thanks for all the input! I called BD yesterday. The OD inversion feature will not be available for some time if at all on the Torque-Loc as it still is being developed and tested. We all still have to use our little finger still to cancel OD. The Torque-Loc was recommended to me to go with the BD Exhaust Brake in my auto truck. Of coarse the Auto-Loc would work also. The Torque-Loc would give a stock position _ auto-loc for braking and torque convertor lock-up in 3rd and 4th only while giving more throttle, steady throttle would lock the TC or if throttle was totally released would unlock the TC. only difference I see gained over the Auto- loc is being able to keep the TC locked under power and not have heat buld up at the transmission such as a long grade climb? Also BD recommended the Pressure- Loc with this set-up to increase line flow/pressure and keep the clutch packs engaged. I hope I,m understsnd this correctly . If not please let me know. Does anyone have the Torque-Loc and Exhaust brake installed with A/T and how is it working for them especially the TC position ,is it useful? Or do I really just need the Auto-Loc? Also the Auto-Loc kicks out at 25 mph so is there good braking available empty for stop and go driving to save brake wear? Even from 65mph to 25 mph would be a benefit or running down a grade empty as there is no back- pressure with a A/T and diesel engine.

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover Tekonsha Voyager _ALASKA

 

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Thanks for all the input! I called BD yesterday. The OD inversion feature will not be available for some time if at all on the Torque-Loc as it still is being developed and tested. We all still have to use our little finger still to cancel OD. The Torque-Loc was recommended to me to go with the BD Exhaust Brake in my auto truck. Of coarse the Auto-Loc would work also. The Torque-Loc would give a stock position _ auto-loc for braking and torque convertor lock-up in 3rd and 4th only while giving more throttle, steady throttle would lock the TC or if throttle was totally released would unlock the TC. only difference I see gained over the Auto- loc is being able to keep the TC locked under power and not have heat buld up at the transmission such as a long grade climb? Also BD recommended the Pressure- Loc with this set-up to increase line flow/pressure and keep the clutch packs engaged. I hope I,m understsnd this correctly . If not please let me know. Does anyone have the Torque-Loc and Exhaust brake installed with A/T and how is it working for them especially the TC position ,is it useful? Or do I really just need the Auto-Loc? Also the Auto-Loc kicks out at 25 mph so is there good braking available empty for stop and go driving to save brake wear? Even from 65mph to 25 mph would be a benefit or running down a grade empty as there is no back- pressure with a A/T and diesel engine.

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover Tekonsha Voyager _ALASKA

 

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Thanks for all the input! I called BD yesterday. The OD inversion feature will not be available for some time if at all on the Torque-Loc as it still is being developed and tested. We all still have to use our little finger still to cancel OD. The Torque-Loc was recommended to me to go with the BD Exhaust Brake in my auto truck. Of coarse the Auto-Loc would work also. The Torque-Loc would give a stock position _ auto-loc for braking and torque convertor lock-up in 3rd and 4th only while giving more throttle, steady throttle would lock the TC or if throttle was totally released would unlock the TC. only difference I see gained over the Auto- loc is being able to keep the TC locked under power and not have heat buld up at the transmission such as a long grade climb? Also BD recommended the Pressure- Loc with this set-up to increase line flow/pressure and keep the clutch packs engaged. I hope I,m understsnd this correctly . If not please let me know. Does anyone have the Torque-Loc and Exhaust brake installed with A/T and how is it working for them especially the TC position ,is it useful? Or do I really just need the Auto-Loc? Also the Auto-Loc kicks out at 25 mph so is there good braking available empty for stop and go driving to save brake wear? Even from 65mph to 25 mph would be a benefit or running down a grade empty as there is no back- pressure with a A/T and diesel engine.

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover Tekonsha Voyager _ALASKA

 

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Hi Terry,
Not sure who you were talking to at BD, but the OD inversion is built into the auto loc or torque loc kits and has been for over a month now. It's designed as an option that one can have or not have, by the position of a switch thats built into the box. If you have any questions please feel free to call me @ 1-800-887-5030

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Wow, a triple post !! Sorry Piers to misrepresent BD, but thats what I was told on the phone or at least how I understood it? Thanks for that bit of imfo maybe you could answer my other questions while you are at it? Sounds like you have a pretty awesome auto in your truck? Also I hear great things about propane injection systems, talk to us,we,re ready !!

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover Tekonsha Voyager _ALASKA

 

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Turbo Terry, I beg to differ with you, I received the new BD TorqLoc ECM (2. 1 version) which has the OD inversion feature. This was the sole reason for my upgrade to the 2. 1 version. The person at BD either hadn't been made aware of the revision or he was refering to the brake light feature (when the exhaust brake is activated the brake lights are illuminated), which has NOT been fully developed and thus, NOT currently offered.

I installed the BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc in my '98. 5 24v Ram. This combination works extremely well. I'd do it again in a heartbeat! Later this month, I'm going to have the BD "Medium Stall" TC, BD valve body and the BD PressureLoc installed in my Ram. I'm waiting for my special ordered (through The PowerShop in Enumclaw, WA. ), "special" "Medium Stall" TC to arrive from BD. Watch out you six speeders, the mighty, big black (auto equipped) Sport Ram is thunderin' right on by. heh,heh,heh.

To Hell with the warranty! Let'r rip baby! (no guts, no glory!)

In the interest of BD's TC longevity; an infrequent poster on this BB, jmac, her and hubby have over 300,000 miles on their '98. 5 24v 3500 QC 4x2 Ram (as of Sept. '99), used for their transport business. At some point (probably prior to 100k mi. ) they upgraded to a BD TC. . and it's still goin' strong (at last report)! Let's see ya get that out of a clutch when used EVERY day to haul the "big loads".

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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4, (BLACK) SLT Sport, ISB, LWB, 3. 54 LSD, A/T, Glasstite Vision II canopy, Line-X bed liner, 285/75R16 BFG A/Ts on 16x8 M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares, front and rear NW Custom stainless steel/rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover and trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Mopar tow hooks, Jordan Research Ultima 2020 trailer brake controller, VDO Vision gauges, PIAA Dual Sport 900 auxiliary lights and Super White bulbs, BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc, Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit, Bosch 275 hp. injectors, VA CPC, DD Boost Module, Banks Stinger wastegate actuator, "Scotty Air System", BLACK '00 valve cover, Hitco/Geno's exhaust blanket, Femco/Geno's EZ Drain oil pan plug, Banks Stinger 4" dia. stainless steel exhaust system, plus many other trick modifications

'00 Polaris 6x6

 

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Terry if you go and B. O. M. B. your truck, what are we gonna call you??? Scourge of the North Pole #ad
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Scourge of the North

 

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I don,t know Piers I don,t know. But I,m SMILING

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99-24V-2500-Laramie-SLT-A/T-LSD-355
All Options except cab lights and carpet-Rino- Prime-Loc-Alcoa wheels-Lund cold front-Factory Tows-DSG Electronic Fast Idle-Mag-Hytec transmission Pan+Rear Diff. Cover Tekonsha Voyager _ALASKA