Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Best Injectors with Sled Puller 66?

[RFahlen]

That is a good write up Ross.



I personally don't have issues with mine but there not for everyone. Most of it comes down to being able to tune the pump, that I have perfected to an extent for daily driving. I chuckle at people that run no plate or AFC and think there going to make max power.



As for me I wouldn't buy a set just to try, doesn't seem fair to those that take care of me and that were willing to work with me when no one else would... ... long story from 2 years ago.



Without sounding like a big head I've already proven my point on HP.



Jim

We respect the fact that you have made big power, but we only move forward if try new stuff. Please conact me, and we can discuss options.



Thanks Much







Ross

 

[Fletcher]

That is a good write up Ross.



I personally don't have issues with mine but there not for everyone. Most of it comes down to being able to tune the pump, that I have perfected to an extent for daily driving. I chuckle at people that run no plate or AFC and think there going to make max power.



As for me I wouldn't buy a set just to try, doesn't seem fair to those that take care of me and that were willing to work with me when no one else would... ... long story from 2 years ago.



Without sounding like a big head I've already proven my point on HP.



Jim

Hi Jim, I'll call you when I get home.

 

[Matthug]

Has anybody tried ETR diesel's stage 3's? They claim 175 HP and are 5X16, seems to be a good compromise. The only thing I would be concerned about is whether or not they start out with 370's or stock style injectors. I've emailed them twice with no response so I'm betting they hone 370's which would cause some wicked EGT's and crazy smoke problems.

 

[Rhondasway]

Brenton, you'll get a lot of "information" here, but do keep in mind those posting whose livelihoods depend on the spin they bring. Jim Fulmer is one of the most respected, liked, and most importantly proven folks you will come across here or anywhere else. He does not sell it if it isn't true; that's just a fact.

Another fact: any aftermarket injector 370 and over is capable of cracking a head. If that company is willing to put a guarantee in writing that you can't crack a head while running their injectors, you're either not making power or they're not all that smart. The duration of the heat is actually much more detrimental that the temps themselves. And in case you might be led to believe heat is all about injectors, you must factor in timing, turbo setup, pump mods, etc. (which you probably already know).

Also, 370's are good for at least 700hp but the best guys out there seem to be choosing Industrial Injection nozzles (Dragonflows/-flys). If I ever scrape together a few bucks, I might get me a set...

 

[bmoeller]

I'm betting they hone 370's which would cause some wicked EGT's and crazy smoke problems.

I'm sure you're right about that. I'm getting lower EGTs from DDP's Stage 4s, as opposed to the 370s I had before. Absolutely no white smoke after inital startup at all. The 370s hazed, even when it was 90* outside. It was in the 20s this morning. I didn't plug the truck in, to check it on a cold engine. Absolutely no white haze. Oo. Oo. The 4s burn MUCH cleaner, too. I can still blackout a tailgater, if I want, but it takes a little more effort on my part to make it happen.



Great kick in power, too.

 

[Fletcher]

Brenton, you'll get a lot of "information" here, but do keep in mind those posting whose livelihoods depend on the spin they bring. Jim Fulmer is one of the most respected, liked, and most importantly proven folks you will come across here or anywhere else. He does not sell it if it isn't true; that's just a fact.

Another fact: any aftermarket injector 370 and over is capable of cracking a head. If that company is willing to put a guarantee in writing that you can't crack a head while running their injectors, you're either not making power or they're not all that smart. The duration of the heat is actually much more detrimental that the temps themselves. And in case you might be led to believe heat is all about injectors, you must factor in timing, turbo setup, pump mods, etc. (which you probably already know).

Also, 370's are good for at least 700hp but the best guys out there seem to be choosing Industrial Injection nozzles (Dragonflows/-flys). If I ever scrape together a few bucks, I might get me a set...

Rhonda ,



Can casting origin, swirl work (chamber) rough keeper groves, combustion deck surfacing or just the draw down on a previously warp lid influence depredation? I want to move my AFC forward but after reading your comments I’m hesitant.

 

[MADDOG2]

Our Stage 4's do measure around 14 on the outside, but when you Extrude Hone a nozzle you get a cone shaped hole. Basically the hole is bigger on the inside of the nozzle than on the outside. Doing that speeds the fuel velocity, and promotes atomization.



We have first hand knowledge that a set of 5X18's will create maybe 20 more hp, but will add a bunch of EGT. We saw 2000+ degrees with an S400/ HX-40 Combo. Our comparison was done last year with a set of our older Stage 4’s that were honed by an outside source. Since our new hone is much more powerful, we build our current stage 4’s a bit larger, so that 20hp gap is most likely gone now.



We are in the process of a motor rebuild that was caused by excessive heat from a set of 5x18's. The exhaust manifold, and the head were cracked in many different places, and coolant entered one cylinder, leading to a piston that cracked in half.



Our Stage 4's are capable of very high horsepower, and can be a daily driver. A set of edm'd 5x18's would be a challenge to drive. Brad Morse, Scott Vorhees (Big Bad Dodge), and Richard Madsen (Maddog), will all tell you that our injectors will make big power. If you have to have something that will crack your head, and exhaust manifold, to get that extra drop of HP we can hone a set of 5x18's to promote atomization but for most, our off the shelf Stage 4's will do the trick. We will only sell sets like this, with a customer signed disclaimer.



If you have access to a good reliable dyno, and would like to do a comparison, you may consider purchasing a set, to do a back to back HP, and EGT comparison. As always we offer a 30 day no questions asked guarantee on our products. I hope this helps clarify some questions about our stuff. If you have any further questions, and would like to talk Lenny or myself, do not hesitate to call.



Thanks Much



Ross Fahlen

Dynomite Diesel

In my opinion DDP makes one awesome injector. With a set of DDP'S and a new camshaft change I have enough fuel to spin a B52 and a A5K with a 52mm wastegate to 105lbs with the drive pressure at 79lbs.

 

[Fletcher]

In my opinion DDP makes one awesome injector. With a set of DDP'S and a new camshaft change I have enough fuel to spin a B52 and a A5K with a 52mm wastegate to 105lbs with the drive pressure at 79lbs.

Awesome, will you be joining the ten second club this year ? :-laf

 

[MADDOG2]

Awesome, will you be joining the ten second club this year ? :-laf

The "big green school bus" is retired from drag racing having already made it in the 10's, and the new truck will just be skipping right past the 9's, and into the 8's. and I will be doing it with a set of DDP injectors.

 

[Fletcher]

The "big green school bus" is retired from drag racing having already made it in the 10's, and the new truck will just be skipping right past the 9's, and into the 8's. and I will be doing it with a set of DDP injectors.

So, now I understand what incited your adulation. Application engineering performance capabilities assists alternative proposed design modifications that adapt to engineering concepts………. right ? But, I thought this quantification was from an intrinsic analysis tool…. . …. . right???

 

[COMP461]

Dragon flows , hmmm they do make some excellent power . Maddog how is that Buddha power cam , told you that John brews up some great grinds

 

[Fletcher]

Dragon flows , hmmm they do make some excellent power . Maddog how is that Buddha power cam , told you that John brews up some great grinds

Greg, is that brew going to make it into some of the motors across viaduct ? (a washington state city, east of everett)

 

[MADDOG2]

Dragon flows , hmmm they do make some excellent power . Maddog how is that Buddha power cam , told you that John brews up some great grinds

You told me? :-laf I knew John before you were even on the TDR. :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Fletcher]

Dragon flows , hmmm they do make some excellent power . Maddog how is that Buddha power cam , told you that John brews up some great grinds

Greg, with your tuning influence, do you think he’ll surpass his altimeter runs :-laf