Bypass Oil Filter

[Mark_Kendrick]

My truck has 26K on it now and I am convinced that it is broken in. I would like to find out who makes the best bypass oil filter set up. . I am looking for excellent filtration and a good looking high quality mounting setup and easy servicablility.



Kit costs?



I am also planning to go to systhetic oil and would like to know what the service intervals should be with synthetics and a bypass filter. $4-5/qt is too much to spend to change every 5-7k mi.



Is sythetic oil necessary with a bypass filter?



Right now I change the oil and filter at 5K religously using rotella-t.



Thanks,

Mark

 

[RonaldLarson]

You will get lots of opinions, but I like the quality and filtering ability of the Amsoil unit. You don't need to worry about a return line from the bypass filter, it returns through the full flow oil line. No, you do not need to use synthetic oil to use a bypass filter.

A word of warning though, do not use anything but the required full flow filter or you will lose any engine warranty in the event of a failure of the engine.

It's unfortunate that we cannot take advantage of the extended change interval offered by synthetics. To run synthetics for only 7500 miles and then dump it is un-necessary and expensive. I wonder why Detroit hasn't accepted the synthetic technology, especially in light of our sudden need to conserve oil products. Can our elected representatives help here?

Hope this helps you!

Ron

 

[Barry]

In all that Frantz stuff I bought, there is an Amsoil Dual By-pass filter kit that I am not going to use. I do not know what it is worth but a good offer would buy it... ... ...

 

[Deezul1]

Barry

I am interested, check your e mail.

 

[redram]

Originally posted by ol ron



It's unfortunate that we cannot take advantage of the extended change interval offered by synthetics. To run synthetics for only 7500 miles and then dump it is un-necessary and expensive. I wonder why Detroit hasn't accepted the synthetic technology, especially in light of our sudden need to conserve oil products. Can our elected representatives help here?

Hope this helps you!

Ron

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Because the engine manufacturer's (and car manufacturer's) want to sell replacement parts!

Ask any dealership or Cat/Cummins / Detroit Diesel what keeps the doors open and more than likely it will be "the service department" not the new car/truck sales. The Big 3 automakers resist putty 0. 50$ improvements on a car, how are you going to get them to install a $20. 00 increase per car when the benefit goes to the purchaser, not the car maker!!!!



It will happen when the consumer finally demands it... just like when Americans finally realized that a car doesn't have to be replaced every 3-4 years if the build quality is first rate.



JMO

 

[BillGotthelf]

The only problem with the amsoil bypass is that it does nothing to remove fuel, antifreeze or h2o that gets in oil. I have been running purodyne (old name T F Purofiner) systems on all my dodges and heavy equipment(dump trucks, wheel loaders,etc). The purodyne has a heating element in the top which through a series of channels heats the oil to remove these contaminents through a check valved breather hose. In the dodges I attach the return line either in the turbo oil return line or oil pan drain hole. The oil plumbs out of the fitting on top of the stock oil filter. I have anywhere from 40,000 miles (1999 dodge) to 115,000 miles (1996 dodge) to 390,000 miles (Ford LT8000 dump) without changing oil. I do however have the oil regularly tested for extra insurance.

 

[SixShooter]

HAs anyone put on a Fleetguard bypass filter, the LF 777? I am going to be running the Fleetguard Stratapore full flow with the LF 777 bypass on Valvoline premium blue 2000 oil. Does this sound like a good combination?

 

[PMalin]

Oilmaster

I installed an oilguard system, but then they began using the oilmaster name. I like it ok, and it was a little less expensive at the time. It's very well built! Does not use a typical filter can but has a replaceable filter media internal of the canister. I expect any way you go, it will be a good project to install it. I had to purchase hose and fittings to complete the install though, but am satisfied with results so far.

 

[Sled Puller]

A By-Pass system helps ANY oil.



The Amsoil By-pass DOES remove antifreeze/water.





We can, and some of us do, take advantage of the extended drains offered by synthetics. With/without By-pass, With no loss of warranty coverage.



Gene

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I had a great discussion about amsoil and their bypass setup last night with CPFF and his wife. she's sending me some stuff on amsoil.



He sent me a link to a picture of the billet adapters and battery bracket he makes.



Drop him a note at:

jvssyn@rcn.com



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"The cost of the pieces are as follows: battery bracket (goes around passenger side battery) $60. 00. billet aluminum adapter (goes where your filter mounts now) $60. 00. SS hoses with crimped on ends made to the correct length to be used with the previous two parts - $72. 00 for the pair. All parts plus shipping. "



Looks like good stuff!

Thanks for the replies,

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

A picture of it installed...

 

[BillGotthelf]

I don't want to start a fight however the amsoil bypass filter system does not remove H2O, antifreeze or fuel from the oil. The filer medium is not designed to nor can it remove these contaminents from the oil. The filter medium is designed to filter down to one micron particles out and water, fuel, etc are much smaller than this. The ONLY WAY to remove them would be to have them condensate out of the oil using heat and the Purodyne system has the only patented system to do this. I am NOT flaming Amsoil or any of the other brands (check my tag-amsoil lubes all around). I have mounted these systems in many locations on my Dodges-the latest being between battery and alternator using the holes in the top of the alternator bracket to mount Purodyne filter to.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

to quote amsoil from theil web site (http://www.amsoil.com/products/bf.html )





"Prevents Oil Degradation, Rust and Corrosion



Water enters motor oil as a combustion by-product or as a condensate. Water contamination of the motor oil can cause extreme engine damage. Water causes metal surface rust and corrosion, which increases friction and wear and deteriorates the close-fitting tolerances between engine components. In addition, water reacts with other oil contaminants to form corrosive acids, which also damage metal components. The AMSOIL By-Pass Filter removes water, reducing the risk of oil degradation, engine rust and corrosion"



FYI

 

[Sled Puller]

Bill,

Maybe removes is a bad word here. How about ABSORBS?



The way I understand it, water can not get through the By-Pass, but it also does get removed from the system. The By- Pass holds the water from re-entering the oil system.



I talked to a guy that had a big Dual system on a loader transmission that was cooled by the radiator. He had a leak, cut the filters open, and could literally WRING the antifreeze out of the filter media. He was happy with the results, it saved him a transmission.



How hot does the Purodyne get? It must be a scorcher to vaporize anti-freeze?



I don't run a By-Pass, but I have never had a fuel problem in the oil. Is that something to expect in the future with high miles?



Or is the Purodyne looking for a bad injector pump or stuck injector?



Gene

 

[xbubblehead]

I installed the Oilguard system for two reasons. I didn't like relocating the full flow oil filter and I didn't like the cost of the replacement filters for the Amsoil unit. I did have hydraulic hoses made up which added time/cost to the installation. For the return oil, I tied into where my Walker Airsep drains back to the sump (the turbo drain line). You can check out Oilguard at www.oilguard.com. When I ordered a couple of weeks ago, they were still honoring the sale prices listed on the web page. I would be glad to give additional details and or send pictures to anyone considering this installation.

 

[amsoilman]

I utilize the Amsoil by-pass (Single Remote Mount)

and have had it installed on my 94' for nearly 135,000 miles. I take oil samples every 10,000 miles and I have never had any water show up in the lab reports, and I have only drained the oil One time since it was installed. I recently removed the valve covers to adjust valves and the valve covers,rocker arms, valve springs etc. look like these parts are still new and very clean.



Wayne

 

[TwoSlick]

Bill,



The Amsoil by-pass filter does indeed remove moisture out of the oil and most of the fuel evaporates when the engine is at operating temp. If you are getting anti-freeze in your oil you have a major mechanical problem (cylinder head gasket most likely) that needs to be corrected.

The type of filter you mentioned does work as advertised, but it's hardly necessary for a Cummins pickup diesel ... .



Tooslick