Dealer Voided my ENTIRE vehicle warranty, HELP!!

[bgilbert]

Could we all chill before this thread gets closed and wait for KOOP to respond?

 

[DPKetchum]

What do you mean no body cares. Go get a JOB or something. Troll hits it on the head. The new type injection and computer systems are here to stay no matter what. Its a fact. We don't need a inmature 30 y. o. something student to keep telling us how poor it is and how great old style is. Go do something constructive.

 

[MCrossley]

Ok that was funny comparing or trucks puter to a home computer. Before you cause another riot, not that Koop isn't getting enough! A home puter has a hard drive to store information and Ram memory to run the computer. Or trucks do not have a hard drive and runs off of Ram memory.

Givem' a few more years to add the hard drive.

Did I skip a post or something where was the reference to a home computer?

 

[EBottema]

What do you mean no body cares. Go get a JOB or something. Troll hits it on the head. The new type injection and computer systems are here to stay no matter what. Its a fact. We don't need a inmature 30 y. o. something student to keep telling us how poor it is and how great old style is. Go do something constructive.

I'm a 20yo student by the way, not 30 something. WE know the new system is here to stay but it seems that the automotive industry only gets worse and worse as years go on. Shoot you are a dealer tech you said, maybe you should contsructivly go throw some parts at a car instead of figuring out the real problem?? I said nothing against you other anyone else in this thread why don't you calm down. Lets reflash your grumpy pcm :-laf

 

[SHyans]

I'm a 20yo student by the way, not 30 something. WE know the new system is here to stay but it seems that the automotive industry only gets worse and worse as years go on. Shoot you are a dealer tech you said, maybe you should contsructivly go throw some parts at a car instead of figuring out the real problem?? I said nothing against you other anyone else in this thread why don't you calm down. Lets reflash your grumpy pcm :-laf

Being that we've all been down the 20 yr old road already, you would have had more credibility if you's stuck with the assumption that you were "30 something".

 

[DPKetchum]

I'm NOT a dealer tech. Was in Management,now I'm retired. Was hot rodding and messing with cars before you were a thought in a back seat. For your info. Autos and trucks last longer then ever before. They get better mileage with a lot less repaires then they ever have. The industary not the tech made assemblys less costly to replace then repair of it. I came up when alts. /starters/wiper motors etc. were repaired. Even water pumps. We sold and installed bearings and seals for water pumps and painted them on the work bench. That era is GONE. Has been. Won't return. If your only 20 I take it you didn't work or pay for your truck or spend 30 degree nights in the backyard until the wee hours repairing it your self. When you get out of high school get a job in a dealer or any large shop for a while as a helper,gopher or what not and then return and give us your worldly experience. When you speak and some inking of a intelligent thought comes out some may listen then instead of thinking your a brat with nothing better to do.

 

[EBottema]

Being that we've all been down the 20 yr old road already, you would have had more credibility if you's stuck with the assumption that you were "30 something".

:-laf Either way it is okay. Please refrain from putting me in caliber as XCumminsX is. :-laf Where is that guy?



Speaking of where people are... Where are you Koop Daddio?



DP- I have a conscience, I could never work at a dealer becuase I have one. I have spent plenty of late cold nights windy in the analope valley working on cars. Sure some stuff on new cars is much improved but I will say this. I will say that you will still see plenty of Model T's and VW Bugs and the many older pre 70's cars around long after all the new cars hit 25-30 years old. You cannot argue with that. There will never be a collectors hobby or value for newer cars or trucks with all the new componantes that have a finate lifespan. Too many things to fix, too expensive. BTW- I did buy my truck with my own money so the age related comments need to stop.



~erik

 

[SHyans]

:-laf Either way it is okay. Please refrain from putting me in caliber as XCumminsX is. :-laf Where is that guy?



Speaking of where people are... Where are you Koop Daddio?

Still tied to the bed .....

 

[DPKetchum]

You have no clue to how a dealership runs. You assume as I assume you haven't spent many nights doing anything. At 20 something your conscience is still forming and changing. You assume lots of things. Go meet a tech and go to a dealer service dept and hang out from 7 am or so to closing. Do it for a few days and then give a opinion. Until then it dosen't matter much of what you say. No one is listening.

 

[JHardwick]

I can afford one without a problem, however, I don't want one. The 03s are nice looking trucks I don't care for the new style injection system.

You've made it painfully obvious that you wouldn't stick your sisters **** in a 3rd gen (you never know about those california liberals), and you never come close to contibuting anything in the 3rd gen forums, so why not go where you can be constructive?



Your constant bashing of a 3rd generation truck can only be taken one way ... ... ... . you don't like them!! So go somewhere else!! Your a 12 valve lover, go hang out on the 12 vavle board and stop trying to stir a turd ... ... ..... K?

 

[TDiebolt]

I am still waiting for all the folks on here talking about all the great service and backing the dealers give them to recomend a good Dodge service department in the Seattle/Puget Sound area. I would think that one of the folks (techs or sales folks) that work for Dodge would have some info. as to service department ratings. I just want simple stuff like my door seals, the vibration I pick up at about 68MPH and a list of the TSB's for my engine/truck that I cannot seem to get from Dodge. Where are the honest DC folks I keep hearing so many folks stand up for that are going to fix my stock truck? Please drop me a line I will give you my business and I will give you lots of good press on the websites I belong to, just want what I paid for in advance when I bought my truck.

 

[24V-DSL]

TDiebolt...

Maybe these folks can help... .



www.nwbombers.com

 

[bgilbert]

Ok moderator, please close this thread, we're not getting anywhere with it.

 

[PHeadings]

Did I skip a post or something where was the reference to a home computer?

Mcrossley , you missed it. About a page back, a commit from TDiebolt.

 

[RedRam401]

DP- I have a conscience, I could never work at a dealer becuase I have one. I have spent plenty of late cold nights windy in the analope valley working on cars. Sure some stuff on new cars is much improved but I will say this. I will say that you will still see plenty of Model T's and VW Bugs and the many older pre 70's cars around long after all the new cars hit 25-30 years old. You cannot argue with that. There will never be a collectors hobby or value for newer cars or trucks with all the new componantes that have a finate lifespan. Too many things to fix, too expensive. BTW- I did buy my truck with my own money so the age related comments need to stop.

~erik

I remember freezing my a** off in the Antelope Valley when I was 20... ... Of course that was 33 years ago. In those days our third gens wouldn't have run too well on the dirty fuel and it started gelling at about 25 degrees F. I used to unload my tanker and look in the domes to see wax coating the bottom of the tank.

Many things have changed since then and our memories sometimes fade. In those days the average MPG for my Cummins 350 was 4. 0 running empty 50% of the time from Lancaster to LA and back. My Cat C15 550/1850, loaded 90% of the time gets about 6. 0 and will probably go to 800K or more before overhaul, in those days the Cummins would make it about 250K before an inframe.

I'd hate to count the times I had to change fuel filters between oil changes.

Tires didn't last and we all remember the wonderful split rim wheels#ad


The biggest thing that has happened is TECHNOLOGY.

Because of emissions requirements engine technology has skyrocketed in the last 30 years, I may miss my old '67 Chevy, but my '95 F150 went 200K with just an A/C Comp. and front brake pads.

I hope my CTD does this well.

 

[patcarman]

red ram u aint telling me anything my old pete 359 with a 855 big cam had the timming cranked back 120 ,192dk injectors,fuel pump opend up w/0 button and 355lbs of fuel pressure,and a 13 speed flipped with the highside against the dash,and when it was there you better be in the hammer,and all that to run with those cats,it would last about 200000 miles and u had to run 2000 or 2100 to keep i at 1000 degrees, and when u stopped to eat the fuel would run out of the manifold,but boy could u hide the trsiler..... i miss it

 

[patcarman]

i hear peopl talk about all the miles they drove and how hard, but id like to see them leave indiapolis with a emery world wide(mail) load and be sittin in la in 36 hrs... . and by the way that was without louceil... or for the young at heart good dope..... i miss it. . but boy was it hard on ya

 

[BlackTxThunder]

Wow, pretty harsh. Just checkin out the site this morning. Guess you have to be careful what you say here. I know for a fact I have no warranty w/Dodge. I gave that up by modifying engine/transmission/suspension, etc...

But there is a variance of "warranty" interpetation from dealer to dealer, for sure.

What annoys me is pulling into most Dodge dealerships, not all, and hearing the same ol, same ol. Immediately I mean right away " NO WARRANTY". Ok! No kidding Jack I got it. Can you FIX my problem or not? I'm paying understood. The general attitude at most dealers is oh we won't touch it! THAT is BS. This guys warranty shouldn't be completely voided. Engine, drivetrain yes, but what about body, other unrelated electrical, interior, etc... ? But you know I realize it's like that so I just don't go back to the dealer.

 

[DPKetchum]

Its NOT the dealer descion. In the final say its D. C. A dealer can state all he wants too. But thats ALL they can do. Its D. C. who makes the final call. On ANY of these situations a SIT down with the FACTORY REP is in order. Sometimes it boils down to each and every item needs DSM approval. Been through it. Yep take care of the window motor and the poor ac cooling and heres the approval code and NO I'm not gonna to pay to look into a internal engine noise and this is why etc.

 

[RonA]

Honesty is black and white. You either are honest or dishonest. I read every day about how to hide something from the dealer, or saving the old parts so that you can put it back to stock to sell it or get it serviced. Where do you guys draw the line. Oh I would screw the government on my taxes, or screw my insurance company by adding stuff to my claim, but I would never screw a friend. Therefore I am honest. If you are going to bomb your truck, be honest and accept the consequences.