Diesel Shootout! Dodge,Ford and Chevy

[Rcpilotlv]

Hey everbody goto www.trucktrend.com for a 2001 shootout between you know who. Not going to tell you the winner but several opinions still say the Cummins is still the king of GRUNT! Tell me what you think... .

 

[Archive]

The link isn't working for me Anybody else get it to work?

 

[Rcpilotlv]

Can anybody help me get this link to work? what did i do wrong? I would like to fix it, any way the website is www.trucktrend.com

 

[Rcpilotlv]

I figured it out, click on the first or second links they should be working now. Bear with me guys I'm new at this computer stuff. RC

 

[Archive]

Your second link took me right to it. I thought it was an interesting article. Good reading.



I did notice that, like our towing forum, the Dodge temps went from 190 to 195 during towing tests. Wonder if they had a bug screen installed?

 

[chuck3]

Ouch Rob, pass the salt.

 

[groundpounder]

I knew i loved my Cummins!!!!

 

[PZicha]

Exellent article ,I've been waiting for this test... . CUMMINS IS STILL THE KING OF TORQUE... . was their any doubt

 

[Statebull626]

End of article

At the end of the article is a feature called 'future diesels'. It talks about '03 diesels and the prognosis for Dodge bumping the 2500/3500 to 275hp and an option for Mercedes in a 4500/5500. Am I missing something here? I thought that Dodge only had the 3500 chassis for HD applications. I know that they don't call them 4500/5500 if they do have anything bigger, but maybe they are in the works. Anyone heard of this?



Tim

 

[Mike Ellis]

Torque Spankage?

Check out the torque curves that are provided at the end of that article (there is a link). The curve for the Dodge looks pretty grim compared to the other two - maybe they were measuring the boat trailer's wheels on the dyno. . ?



Or am I missing something?



Mike

 

[John Berger]

Everbody loves the chebby

This article was good, but it appears as though they are almost rooting for the DuraMax. Everything I have read about the DuraMax (with the exception of this site and the Ford site) has

contained glowing reviews for the new GM truck. It's interesting that GM had to go to Japan for what has a good chance to be a reliable Diesel engine. I wonder aloud how that path evolved. Does anybody know? Does anybody care?

 

[SLightfoot]

Authored by?.....

This is a pretty old article now. It was in the magazine version quite some time ago. Finally made it to the website.



It's interesting to note that the author of that article is G. Whale, who is a CTD owner and writes for our beloved TDR magazine. This is probably the origin of the "king of grunt" statement. What Cummins owner WOULDN'T say that?? (not me that's for sure).



Just be thankful it wasn't a Duramax owner writing that article. It would have been too much to stomach.



Shawn

 

[PZicha]

Mike Ellis



If you read the article closely it would have mentioned that the Chevy made up most of its difference in the lower gears and the Dodge and Ford where both closing the gap as the quarter wore on. Its unfortunate that dodge de-tunes these motors somewhat considering that the motorhomes get the 275hp 675ft/lb versions but its hard to warranty a drive line if the motors tearing it up. . Go further down to the next page on General Diesel Topics and read ( DIESEL PAGE PULLOFF 2 ) once you get to where they bombed all three trucks that should put a smile on your face

 

[Lil' Dog]

Up the Grunt!!!

If you get the Cummins Boosters newsletter, about 6 months ago they were calling all 275 HP PUSHER motorhomes to come on in for the 300 HP upgrade to bump them with a reflash and some minor changes to the fuel system and boost sensor. For a nominal fee of course. Could you sneak in under a motorhome?????LOL

 

[Koa Man]

Re: End of article

Originally posted by Statebull626

At the end of the article is a feature called 'future diesels'. It talks about '03 diesels and the prognosis for Dodge bumping the 2500/3500 to 275hp and an option for Mercedes in a 4500/5500. Am I missing something here? I thought that Dodge only had the 3500 chassis for HD applications. I know that they don't call them 4500/5500 if they do have anything bigger, but maybe they are in the works. Anyone heard of this?



Tim

Dodge already has 4500/5500 medium duty trucks built and running in Mexico. They are currently not available for sale in the U. S. Why? I don't know. I would have bought one already. The 3500 chassis is classified as a light duty truck.

 

[Statebull626]

4500/5500

Almost makes ya want to take a little vaction to Mexico and drive one home



Tim

 

[Mike Ellis]

No answer to my earlier question yet, as to whether the torque curve shown for the Dodge truck is "for real". If so, it sure looks bad compared to the curves for the Powerstroke and Duramax. What gives? I am trying to attach the picture of the curve here so people can take a look.



Thanks,

 

[DHatfield]

Mike I think they goofed as I don't see how it would be possible for a stock engine to make that much more power to the rear-wheels over the manufacturer's rating at the flywheel. But if it does make that much, cool no wander it pulls so good.

 

[Mike Ellis]

DHatfield,



If you visit the original article and check out the torque curves for all 3 trucks that they have posted, the Ford and the Duramax are FAR superior to what they show for the Dodge. I believe the numbers for the Dodge are in error, but I need some confirmation. If they are indeed wrong, I will report the error to the guys at the website. With the information they show, a "neutral" observer would look at the curves and immediately assume the Dodge Cummins is much less powerful than the other trucks.



Doesn't matter much to me what others think of the truck, since I already made my buying decision some time back. But since some folks use information like those comparisons to influence their purchase decisions, it is important that any posted comparison data be correct to allow them to make an informed decision.