Dieselgate lands on FCA and Cummins?

[Wayne M.]

I hope this gets resolved painlessly.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/i...477a&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Could this also involve the issues we see with DEF quality?

 

[RustyJC]

Hmmmm.....interesting. I notice 2016 trucks aren't included. Did they change the supplier in question or ???? I know I haven't had any problems with my truck's DEF or emissions control system - yet!

Rusty

 

[Berrigan]

Moisture causing the problem? moisture where? That works out to $1538.00 per vehicle to repair. That's a lot of money for a moisture problem, wonder what the details are.

 

[Wayne M.]

I have been predicting the demise of the FCA/ Cummins marriage. I am looking at how FCA has treated all of their other acquisitions like CNH. I hope I'm wrong!

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Ya, what's the difference between 2016 and earlier trucks? Almost 16k on mine, zero issues

 

[Wayne M.]

Patiently waiting for a more technical article. Could this be the fallout from all the NOX sensor and Cat replacements we've been reading about?

 

[TRAMPLINEMAN]

Why is it only the 2500 trucks?

 

[Deleted member 995608]

If anybody is responsible, it's the fed's. After all, they are requiring these MFG's to squeeze blood from a turnip. Crapping in one hand and wising in the other........

 

[Bob4x4]

Ya, what's the difference between 2016 and earlier trucks? Almost 16k on mine, zero issues

The scr cat is different on '16's

 

[Wayne M.]

If anybody is responsible, it's the fed's. After all, they are requiring these MFG's to squeeze blood from a turnip. Crapping in one hand and wising in the other........

What ever happened to the like button?

 

[Killer223]

fiat will soon remove cummins from it's trucks.
they are sueing each other. so you know it won't last long.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

For all you wanting to jerk a knee, please take a breath before spreading rumors.

 

[EDankievitch]

Well this explains why I have yet to take a long trip, Ny to Fla, with out geting a CEL. Every time the first thing the dealer says is you'r using the wrong DEF fluid..... It usually, well once they replaced the SRC, ends up being a software issue and a Flash is required. Working in the marine industry I'm always surrounded by moisture.... What's scary is if this is the end of the FCA/ Cummins what will they replace it with those ECO VM engines don't seem to be staying together..... based on the failures that have been posted on here...

 

[RustyJC]

The scr cat is different on '16's

Thanks, Bob. Good to know.

Rusty

 

[Wayne M.]

What I'm hoping for is to be kept in the loop by FCA. I feel we at the TDR are a big enough market share, that we deserve to know what's going on. I may not be shopping for a new truck today- but who knows about a year from now?
I don't want to see a divorce.

My big fear is that this is fabricated BS like I feel the VW thing is. If you look hard enough, any vehicle can be proven to have some fault or be a gross polluter.

To the Rammers who have had issues, I hope you get resolution soon! In my SCR experience at my job, in light and heavy trucks- it hasn't been too bad- I've been expecting worse- especially considering our own DEF supply/dispensing habits.
I am sure Bob will back me up on this. When you've had a repair on this subject done, the vehicle needs to complete a drive cycle- exactly how OBDII cars need to in order to pass state inspection. It would be beneficial to know your truck has ran its cycle, or monitor and is "at peace" with itself before you embark on a journey. I won't be the one to tell you how to see if your monitors have set, because I don't know this newest FCA system, but I highly reccomend you figure it out.

 

[kthaxton]

My big fear is that this is fabricated BS like I feel the VW thing is.

I'm curious....what aspect of the VW thing do you believe is fabricated?

 

[Cummins12V98]

"[FONT=STselection !important]What's scary is if this is the end of the FCA/ Cummins"

Unlikely! The plant in Columbus starting with the 2017 model year will be ONLY producing engines for RAM trucks. I spoke to a lady that was working on the 2019 6.7 for RAM. It will be Cummins 100 yr anniversary and 30 yr for RAM/Cummins [/FONT]marriage.

 

[Wayne M.]

I'm curious....what aspect of the VW thing do you believe is fabricated?

I'm a bit distracted now, but didn't this whole dieselgate thing begin right after a takeover scuffle involving GM? I feel it's politics all the way.

 

[Wayne M.]

"[FONT=STselection !important]What's scary is if this is the end of the FCA/ Cummins"

Unlikely! The plant in Columbus starting with the 2017 model year will be ONLY producing engines for RAM trucks. I spoke to a lady that was working on the 2019 6.7 for RAM. It will be Cummins 100 yr anniversary and 30 yr for RAM/Cummins [/FONT]marriage.

Sounds real rosy and all, but it won't be the first time Chrysler stood up Cummins.

 

[RustyJC]

I'm a bit distracted now, but didn't this whole dieselgate thing begin right after a takeover scuffle involving GM? I feel it's politics all the way.

No, it began after WVU tested a number of VW diesels in their laboratories and found them to be out of compliance. They turned their findings over to the EPA, and it took off from there.

Rusty