Do you run red diesel?

[RoryTek]

Would like to know what is the % of trucks red diesel all the time. You can email off the list if worried about the fuel nazi's.

 

[moparguy]

No sir, not me.

I've been checked and was glad I had only green #2 in the tank. I spend time in big farm country and the logging world were it's awful easy to run red fuel, but a few times a year the IRS along with the DOT guys set up road blocks and check all diesel trucks.



Now if I had a conversion sleeper rig with a 4b or so, then that would be a different temptation situation.

 

[The patriot]

I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may incriminate me.

Eric

 

[RBachant]

I've never had my fuel tank checked, but with my luck it would get checked the day I put it in.

 

[Got Smoke?]

I have never been checked myself, but I had a friend who had a 97 or 98 Cummins a few years ago that did.



He had a lawn care business and had a extra tank in the bed. He told me I should get a aux. tank and run #1 in it, and # 2 in my main tank.



P. S. He got drunk one weekend a few years back and proceeded to roll his Cummins!:--) There was a hand print on the outside of the door as it comes up from the mirror about 1/2 way to the top of the cab.

 

[Philip]

No Red here.

 

[dusthomps]

I've thought about doing it a couple times, but never have.

 

[RoryTek]

I've never been pulled over for fuel check, I guess it's not a big deal here in the high desert.

 

[Jumbo Jet]

In my F-rd 335 tractor all the time.

 

[Chipstien]

Would if I could.....

In the Seattle metropolitan area I have never seen stops... . than again, it's hard to find and not very convenient to get. :{

 

[illflem]

Here in Montana the red nozzle is right next to green at the truck fill pumps. 77¢/gallon is hard to pass up. Never seen a check nor heard of anyone getting nailed.

 

[WadePatton]

Fuel tax nazis checked a friend of a friend in Wilson Co. TN just a few months ago.



Heck I run road fuel in my little tractor. It doesn't use much and I drive it to the station (which has no ag fuel). Beats messing with jugs.



And my bigger tractors are gassers.

 

[Irontrader]

Just got my heating oil tank and farm fuel tanks filled yesterday. Haven't run it in my Ram, but use it in my Bobcat all the time.



I know of a couple people that do run red diesel in their vehicles and have never heard of anyone being checked for doing so here in Oregon.



Rather than running red diesel I'd suggest using a cardlock system where you get green diesel and the cardlock vendor doesn't collect the state fuel tax.

 

[drag racer]

Originally posted by Irontrader





Rather than running red diesel I'd suggest using a cardlock system where you get green diesel and the cardlock vendor doesn't collect the state fuel tax.

What does a cardlock have to do with collecting fuel taxes? It's all about use - on-road vs. off-road. Unless I'm missing something, the cardlocks collect and pay fuel taxes on green fuel like any other station would. Every Pacific Pride I have ever pulled into has generally had HIGHER green fuel prices than say, the nearby Flying J truck stop, for example.

 

[illflem]

In Oregon the state tax is collected later for commercial rigs. It's always a gyp in OR, the highway display signs always give the PUC price but if you're are driving a car or pickup you pay a higher price with the state tax added. My guess is that by using the card lock you bypass this.

 

[speedracer]

I've never been checked or know anybody who has been. If my tractor was diesel, I'd have a tank by the shed for red and I'd probably use it in the pickup. But I have a gas tractor, so it's green for me.

 

[hammersley]

illflem

I drive through Mt several times a year and always wondered what the "locals" did with this situation. I guess you're saying that the stations don't care what you put where. But I know we've had this discussion before and I thought there was some discussion that the red dye fuel wasn't as high a quality, the cetane rating was lower.

 

[illflem]

hammersley, If I had a camera I would have taken a picture of the sign at my local Exxon station, found it pretty informative. It had the cetane, pour and gel points for each product including dates. Red was the same as straight #2 year round. They also offered blend and straight #1, four hoses on each pump. There was a gal with tanker filling the tanks, I went over to ask if she had stirred up the tank by filling and talked for awhile. She said in the warm time of year they sold more red, once the winter comes it switches to the blend. After all it is a farming area, most people are broke. Per capita income in Montana is the second lowest after Mississippi, guess they're giving us a break by not enforceing the law.

 

[hammersley]

Are they putting into the transfer tanks or teh fuel tanks?

Do you see guys say with campers or shells on - putting the fuel into their fuel tanks or is it going into a transfer tank in their beds? If you had a camper on - would you be OK to put it into your tank????

 

[illflem]

It's never legal to use red for over the road and the fines are rather steep. Whether a person decides to use the cheaper fuel depends on how much of a risk he is willing to take in getting caught vs. the lower price. Much the same philosophy applies when you fill out your 1040. The gas stations don't care which hose you use, enforcement isn't their job.