dtt twins what's up with this

[mlockner]

my situation is entirely different than moolies. I tow with my truck also and for the most part since the install have learned alot about different setups and twins. I have seen more hp increase than moolie has. As a matter of fact I hit the dyno yesterday and was rather pleased with the numbers I got, especially with the water meth turned off. I am not ready to give her the meth yet as it will put me real close to being over the edge with my head gasket. The truck made a steady 52 lbs of boost, which is what I asked for on my twins, since I still need to tow with my truck. If anyone wants to know more particulars you can send me a PM. Moolie should not be speaking for others as he does not represent a group. He is only speaking for MOOLIE. Enough said!



Mike L.

 

[I-6DZL]

Moolie should not be speaking for others as he does not represent a group. He is only speaking for MOOLIE. Enough said!



Mike L.

I kind of thought, that since you have been pretty quiet on the subject.





Curtis

 

[moolie]

i hear ya

the bottom turbo was making like 19# of boost on mike's ride and i won't have my 2nd boost gauge till tuesday. So we were told the bottom should never be over 34 max but we are still trying to get to 20 i have an appointment to get the tubing recoated and fix that leak i don't know how a hole managed to form it's not rubbing and i know it's not the hole to hook the gauge too it's a hole that needs to be fixed and a lot of air is escaping and melting the battery. So with that in mind i really can't say anymore until we get the boost gauge so i can answer the questions accurately and then go from there hopefully tuesday this is gonna be addressed. THe problems are low boost low hp gains, hole in the turbo casing which leaks oil and now we have a hole in the powder coated tube which i tried to fill in but i don't have anything that seems to hold to the temperatre so tuesday i'll be trying to get all these issues addressed. I know the 2 gauges will be in so i'll have the bottom boost and also the fuel pressure. I hope then we can figure out what's up with this because it's just not right and i can't understand and the guy who installed them can't seem to explain it either so we're trying but we haven't had success.

 

[moolie]

my situation is entirely different than moolies. I tow with my truck also and for the most part since the install have learned alot about different setups and twins. I have seen more hp increase than moolie has. As a matter of fact I hit the dyno yesterday and was rather pleased with the numbers I got, especially with the water meth turned off. I am not ready to give her the meth yet as it will put me real close to being over the edge with my head gasket. The truck made a steady 52 lbs of boost, which is what I asked for on my twins, since I still need to tow with my truck. If anyone wants to know more particulars you can send me a PM. Moolie should not be speaking for others as he does not represent a group. He is only speaking for MOOLIE. Enough said!



Mike L.

i'm not speaking for you when i say anything i'll gladly post your email to me if you wanna say that you weren't disappointed i'm wondering why it says you are in this message u sent me. I mean it's ok to not want to open a can of worms but i'm not saying u said anything other then what u said. Show me where i said anything other then u were disappointed, that's what u told me in an email. Sorry but i'm only speaking the truth here and we both know what was addressed. I always said if you were happy with your setup that's good i'm glad for u but that i was not. So if you were and are still happy why would u be telling me you weren't. As for mike I'm not speaking for him either there are obviously problems with the setup i can show u endless emails and messages where this has been address by both the installing party and the truck owners. I didn't say mike said anything or u said anything i know some of the numbers that mikes truck threw down but i'm not saying anything besides that. U guys are big boys and i really don't care if you go with me or not i know the twins arne't right, u know that , mike knows that and bob knows that so there u have it.

 

[moolie]

I was just looking at your mods-





I still consider myself a newbie and info sponge when it comes to Diesels so have to ask- is your downloader and or Banks providing enough timing like a TST would for all the fuel you are stuffing in there? Could be a source for the high EGT's



I would be upset too on the 4hp increase but you may have reached the max of your fueling combination and that combo may not be the ticket at those levels.

You have the good basics- injectors & Fass so maybe its time to try a TST by itself keeping an eye on rail pressures and add a pressure only box if needed. Just some thoughts. .



BTW what Turbos are used in the DTT kit and what are they designed for?

Ok i understand the boxes aren't what people normally run but i hold my own in fact even whoop up on the tst edge combination other than torque. NOw i'm speaking for mike at all but he does have the tst and the edge straight up and he also hasn't seen the results anticipated. SO when i'm posting that i'm not speaking for him i found out what he has on the rig on my own and i have been involved in a friendly rivalry with him for some time so we kinda know what the others got. I'm gonna make sure to say that I'm not quoting anyone period i jus tknow what they got, and that they added these twins and what they ended up with. Not that you were stating that i was speaking for everyone but i am stating what i know of the 3 vehicles and i am just looking at the differences in all of the vehicles and the similarities and then trying to figure out what exactly isn't adding up much like all 3 of us were.

 

[moolie]

my situation is entirely different than moolies. I tow with my truck also and for the most part since the install have learned alot about different setups and twins. I have seen more hp increase than moolie has. As a matter of fact I hit the dyno yesterday and was rather pleased with the numbers I got, especially with the water meth turned off. I am not ready to give her the meth yet as it will put me real close to being over the edge with my head gasket. The truck made a steady 52 lbs of boost, which is what I asked for on my twins, since I still need to tow with my truck. If anyone wants to know more particulars you can send me a PM. Moolie should not be speaking for others as he does not represent a group. He is only speaking for MOOLIE. Enough said!



Mike L.

Ok mr lockner i just wanted to see your approach saying that i'm speaking for u which not what i'm doing so i went back and looked at what u did say. and here it is this is what you wrote to me on the 10th of may after i had contacted u concerned over the lack of performance and i quote here



Guys,



How are you doing. I want to touch base about my twins and experiences this past couple weeks. Keep in mind these are the first twins of this design. There are always things to work out when you are dealing with a new product line. Even proven product lines have their issues especially when you are hot rodding things and want high performance, besides reliability. Here goes my story. I am still trying to understand the differences between a single turbo and the twins. The feel, sound and reaction of the truck is quite different. This thing runs like hell when you are out driving it around. It has not been much laggier than my HX40 was and once spinning it runs like no tomorrow. I did dyno at May Madness and as both of you have experienced was not happy about not seeing much more hp increase on paper than I have seen.





Please not the last sentance where u speak about dyno results and your thoughts on them. SO no i'm not speaking for u at all i just stated that there was an issue on all 3 trucks lacking any sort of performance increase. that's what was said. I guess this post is speaking for u now but that's what u sent me sir. Those are your words and I don't intend to cause problems between anyone else but me and the the parties involved however if you are going to stick up for the other party and down me then make sure that u post the real deal here. Don't sugarcoat what u said and make me look like a bad guy because u and bob are buddies. It doesn't matter who made these or who installed them and that's the approach someone needs to take when they look at it. Unbiased and without favortism.

 

[Tim]

I just want to know how someone so stupid that they can't form a sentence or paragraph can afford $6000 for a set of twin turbos. Seriously dude, stop messing with your truck and go take an English class. I have never seen or heard such a disgusting abuse of the English language in all of my 21 years on this earth.



Good luck with your truck. It really does sound like you got screwed, but my head hurts from reading this thread, and even if I did have the knowledge to help you, I wouldn't have the patience to read your posts.

 

[fox]

Same here! but it's 52 years.



sameherebut52years... ... ... ... . !

 

[moolie]

i'm not worried about the clarity of the posts at all. don't u see i don't reread them before i post them i just type them and post them. Sometimes there is are errors and other times they are fine but when a guy has a lot of information to post them it just gets posted i'm not gonna go back and edit them all but i could if i had time.



So as far as english class i've got college level english composition and that's not the issue but once again what we see is the focus trying to get taken away from the problem at hand and then put onto some other issue. I go back and read them and see mistakes but it's not like i'm submitting a report to anyone or anything like that. I'm just trying to get as much information about the issue out in the open that i can and there is a ton of it so i'm trying to do that very quickly and it's not fun to type this much crap at all so i'm sure there will be mistakes but the biggest mistake was purchasing these.

 

[Tim]

there is are errors and other times they are fine but when a guy has a lot of information to post them it just gets posted i'm not gonna go back and edit them all but i could if i had time



This is exactly what I'm talking about. That is not a sentence. That is what, in school, is referred to as a run-on sentence.



My suggestion to you is to learn to form a sentence and communicate with other people in the proper manner. When you're done, come back here, and complain all you want. Until then, sell your twins and invest in some English classes. I wonder how anyone who can't even write one paragraph isn't making minimum wage.

 

[moolie]

I just want to know how someone so stupid that they can't form a sentence or paragraph can afford $6000 for a set of twin turbos. Seriously dude, stop messing with your truck and go take an English class. I have never seen or heard such a disgusting abuse of the English language in all of my 21 years on this earth.



Good luck with your truck. It really does sound like you got screwed, but my head hurts from reading this thread, and even if I did have the knowledge to help you, I wouldn't have the patience to read your posts.

u don't have to read them and for someone who's 21 to acuse me of abusing the langauge is fine. I have more then enough english language skills and like i said this isn't the issue but it's a diversion tactic like politicians use. Who cares if i left out a period or a word u can read half of the post and have a clue as to what's going on here. What's going on is that we paid a ton of cash and that we didn't get a good product for the price and everyone has had an issue with this. From now on i'll be sure to capitalize and use the correct sentance structure when addressing u but i don't really have any reason to address u. that's u not a ewe that's short for you i type the letter u. Didn't wanna confuse u. i meant you.



Silly complaining about the way a post is written is ignorant it doesn't solve the problem and it doesn't do anything for you maybe it makes you feel good or something. However, it doesn't solve the problems that are taking place and it doesn't help u add more power. there's that u again.



So with that in mind if you have no help that u can state in addressing it then why post. Part of my early posts wouldn't make sense because they were typed to bring up situations where only a select few folks that were present at the time would be able to address. That's why i did that but yeah i thank you for your time and your opinion too bad it wasn't helping the original issue though.

 

[moolie]

a run on are you seriously telling me that u aren't allowed to use run ons. I never saw that rule at all and not only that even if it is a run on you can understand it and that's why u responded to it. Correct? i made sure to put that question mark for u. i mean ewe i mean you.



so don't be nitpicking moron this isn't a square class of english if you want to post about english results go to an english forum this is a truck forum and if i use a run on i would hope that you would be smart enough to decipher and understand and aparently u are since u responded. get my point

 

[moolie]

why don't u stop being stupid and if you can't address the issue then don't. I can type whatever i want get that through your head idiot. So long as it's within the rules of the forum. Understand that. What u fell about the english and the run on's doesn't matter u aren't anybody. I don't have to impress you or have my posts approved by you so if your done complaining about my grammar then i'd like to get back to the original issue. Once again thanks for your opinion which has nothing to do with the topic.



how's that i had it proofread lol

get a life dude what kind of guy goes around to forums and reads posts and then critiques them. My G wasn't capitalized oh my god shame on me. Is that a crime now under the patriot act? ah ha question mark.



are you that bored and lonely that this is what keeps you entertained. Addressing someone's grammar get real this is a truck forum so what if something is spelled wrong as long as you can decipher it. Run on sentence oh my gosh i didn't indent my new paraghaph either. Holly cow am i gonna make it through life? i guess not because Tim said so. I can show u posts on here where nobody has used any form of any punctuation. So go lick their butt and get your tongue off mine. But once again thanks for your opinion about an issue which has nothing to do with this. How do you feel about the spotted owl vs the lumber industry? sorry that vs there stand for versus just so u know

 

[I-6DZL]

moolie do you honestly think you'll get any help out of this thread ??? You may have gotten hozed, but you're only hozing yourself.



Diversion tactic ????????? Hardly... ... . Try making it easy on people that would like to help you. Make sentences easy to read and you will be light years ahead of where you are now.



moolie good luck to you and your loss of 6g's.



Curtis

 

[DAWG-1]

Air Leaks

Moolie,

I have read your posts and finally I think you found your problem, AIR LEAKS. I was going to ask you if anyone has pressure tested the entire system, I would highly recommend doing this.



Keep us posted on your pressure outputs of each turbo.



Look at the big picture and relax. Tuning any performance vehicle takes time.



Sam

 

[moolie]

yeah i've gotten a lot of help out of it to be honest i've gotten all i need already i'm not looking to fix the problem i'm just looking how other people would respond is all.

 

[moolie]

Moolie,

I have read your posts and finally I think you found your problem, AIR LEAKS. I was going to ask you if anyone has pressure tested the entire system, I would highly recommend doing this.



Keep us posted on your pressure outputs of each turbo.



Look at the big picture and relax. Tuning any performance vehicle takes time.



Sam

yes sir that's going to be addressed on tuesday. So now with that in mind we will have a better overall stance on the issue on tuesday. I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone. I'm sitting here posting a problem and what i got is some 21 year old person who isn't in agreement with the way the post is stated or typed. I mean that's ridiculous he said he didn't understand it yet he responded to it. I'm not trying to start an issue that's why i keep saying to get back to the turbo issue, that's all. I can go around on here and find several post without any punctuation. So if tim is the puncuation and run on sentence police then he needs to also stress his opinions to all the folks involed who have used run on sentences. Isn't that only fair?

 

[moolie]

there is are errors and other times they are fine but when a guy has a lot of information to post them it just gets posted i'm not gonna go back and edit them all but i could if i had time



This is exactly what I'm talking about. That is not a sentence. That is what, in school, is referred to as a run-on sentence.



My suggestion to you is to learn to form a sentence and communicate with other people in the proper manner. When you're done, come back here, and complain all you want. Until then, sell your twins and invest in some English classes. I wonder how anyone who can't even write one paragraph isn't making minimum wage.

certainly you can read them because u guys respond to them. So i'm not trying to be a jerk but if someone has nothing better to do then go play english teacher when they weren't asked to, that's their issue. I'm just trying to get the info out there. I don't proofread them and i know there are errors. However if he want's to make a thread about proper grammar in the tdr then i feel he should start that. If he feels that strong about it hell he could even try to change the rules here. I don't think that it helps me or my situation to argue with someone over the fact that i didn't stop a sentence when they felt like i should have and for someone to post along those lines basically shows that they don't have a whole lot going on and they are bored. I guess nobody on here writes posts with incorrect structure other then myself. Yeah right. When i read one though i don't go out of my way to try and be a square and point out every little issue they did wrong. It's not an english forum it's a truck forum. We are here to address truck issues. So if that's a goal for certain folks that's fine but make sure you proofread all posts and address all individuals instead of taking a thread about dtt twin turbo's and their performance and basically trying to change it into an english comp lesson. i don't care if i used a run on i don't care if i didn't capitalize i don't care my i wasn't capitalized that's not the issue. I know it needs to be and is supposed to be and if i were writing on an official document it would be but here i don't do it. Isn't that my choice is this america. Oh i didn't capitalize america but i know it is supposed to be. Get off me this is ignorant it doesn't solve the issue, and aparently doesn't add more hp to his rig so what's the point of it. it's stupid



i'm sorry that's how u spend your friday nights. Either way that's your choice have fun i have other plans myself.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Whew Obeekaybee.



Let's see I didn't read all of this but what I have read is turning south~ish so keep it civil and off each other's backs a bit folks. Sentence structure mishaps are not a crime ... may aid in the future need of glasses but are not a crime



Now being I have not read all of this I did however retain a couple points. One Moolie That Bank's Loader, does it have a high egt defuel?? You may be ramping up against that and loosing tons of power because of that.



You found one leak (A kernal leak) but how is the air horn gasket , intake gasket itself , and intercooler? I use copper gskets not because I am twinned (Because I am not) but for a solid connection between the air out side of the intercooler and the next stop which would be the combustion chamber.



I am moving this over to the engine forum.

 

[Matt400]

Whew Obeekaybee.

LOL :-laf :-laf Thats just too funny!