Duramax Crankshaft Failures??

[PRout]

Yea, lots of talk about us on the other sites.



Funny how everyone is comparing their NEW "re-designed", superior powered out of the crate, new-technology, higher displacement, higher revving, beer can motors to our basic designed, old-technology, cast-iron, six cylinders. :-{}



Its kind of cool knowing that I got the REAL THING.



Have Ford guys & my duramax neighbors coming over all the time asking how mine's running? Hows my mileage? Do I have to baby it to get that mileage? Hows it pull w/ those new injectors? Hows it start in the cold w/ the grid heater vs worrying if the glow plug relay will work? What computer box are you trying on it this week? How much did that big aircleaner help? Hows that lowend torque work on gettin that tailer moving up a hill? Sounds like its not even revvin. Says his wife thinks it sounds like a fire engine w/ the straight exhaust, & engine brake (that they DONT HAVE), etc. :{ :{



Duramax man continues to say. . "We'll see, we'll see", as he ponders if his new ISUZU motor is gonna hold up under some real work.



Yea... I think Ill get the trailer out tomorrow, load it down, & go find a good long hill to pull it over.



He!!, might go get a big fueling box and do some FRONT PAGE MAG BURNOUTS like Steve...



Maybe even go do a 5-MINUTE TIRE-FRYER while I make a video that gets air'd on TV like Piers did.



WHY?? BECAUSE I CAN... Oo. Oo. Oo.



Heck, all this whining is making me want to go out & change my toilet-paper roll.

 

[hammersley]

amcintyre

amcintyre



Hang in there - after-all we love our trucks - but they are still only a machine - there are a lot more important things in life than our rigs, CTD, Duramax, PSD or whatever. We're going through a battle with a little granddaughter who is less than a week old and fighting for her life - now that's important stuff! So let's not get our panties in a bunch - we all need to have thick skins, and stay for the ride. amcintyre

- don't quit, stay and educate us when you can, It took guts for you to join. I joined the Diesel Page two years ago before I bought the 01 CTD, and to be fair, I wound up buying my Dodge almost by mistake. I was waiting for a DMAX, but couldn't take the time. Now I love my truck and am glad I made the choice I did.



By the way - in case you can, please say a prayer for Emma Christine Tyger, who was born on 10 March 02.



Thanks so much

 

[mblair]

duramax.....

i've been reading these postings. If you want to see some flaming look up the ones on the so called "rice boys".

My neighbor who was dying with cancer bought his wife a crew cab dually Duramax because his Dodge Cummins was getting a bit of time on the clock. (208,000) He didn't want her to have to worry about problems. She said it has a lot more power than the dodge. Although I am not an expert on the Duramax, I understood it had been made by Isuzu which seems to know a great deal about building reliable diesels IMHO. However, anyone who has owned an Isuzu 4 cylinder diesel truck from the 80's knows they rust out quite thoroughly. But they also know Isuzu diesels are rock solid reliable, as my experience has been. (granted, I don't know of slower trucks). I have owned one for 14 years now, and am convinced it's as reliable as any engine on the market. However, they are under powered. I also know of folks who have 6. 2 Chevy's from the early eighties still running strong.



When my neighbor with cancer bought the Duramax, he was so discouraged by what he was offered in trade for hi 93' Dodge Cummins that he told them "I'll sell it to someone I know for that much!" This great neighbor died from his cancer around Thanksgiving. But a week before he died, he sold me the Cummins. I remember him leaning on the side of it and with what looked like a tear in his eye saying, "I love this truck. " Now I can understand why, it's a wonderful truck. I've lusted after it since it was knew. I think diesel is automotive testosterone. I also think diesel owners get emotionally attached, in one way or another, to our diesels. I hope everyone is attached to their diesel, no matter the brand. I think I'd rather drive a clunky diesel, no matter the brand, than any gas truck. I hope everybody feels the same about their diesel... ... .

 

[TxDieselKid]

but it's the way you said it.....

Originally posted by ata

Mr TxDieselKid if you look back at my posts you will not find anywhere that I said this was not a Dodge Site. I said it was not a Dodge Site only. Meaning you could talk Chev-Ford or Dodge. I think about every Diesel made has been talked about here at one time.

Ok I am done and moving on. Everybody have a good day.

The way you were saying made you think that is NOT a primaly Dodge site, and I agreed with you, stating that this is primarly a Dodge site though. I also think that many other diesels then just ones that appeared in Chevys have been talked about on the respected Chevy site, and the same for Ford.



I am saying the sky is blue, and you are disagreeing, come on man, let it die.



Let's try a political correct name for this web site, which is made to coinside with the magazine that is about Dodge diesels.



"This is a web site for, but not limited to, Dodge trucks, powered by the Cummins diesel engine. "



Would you agree to that? Oh wait, you said you left, oh well, point made then.



Andrew



P. S. call me Andrew, not TxDieselKid, I'd address you by your name, but you don't give it.

 

[backroad]

Why in the world do you take such offense to people being people. Don't you understand that all you are doing is adding fuel to the fire. I know that I can spell out of control.



Since I am not actually a Dodge fan, and I do consider myself as an outside to this forum. there is a bunch of information to be gained here. I just listen to what's said, make my own educated opinions and go on.



My first love is a FORD. I bought my Dodge truck to tear apart. It does have a good heart, even the early non intercooled version with 318,000 miles on it. What other brand motor would anyone in there right mind consider swaping into their daily ride with these kind of miles on it.





I wish that, even in the short time I have been with TDR, that I could express just how much information I have gotten for my $35. Heck, there another website out there calle the Diesel Owners Website that wants $300 initiation fee and another $200 a year for membership, with just promises for future stuff. The



owner of this site told me that he would not help me with any problems or answer any questions until I was a member. This fellow is a local to me, and is a shop owner.....



Now, I'm here to tell you that i am a TDR member, I enjoy it, I learn from it and I use my own evaluation as to truth and validity.



Thanks TDR members, this Ford fanatic appreciates ya all... ... .





Backroad in Arizona



:-{} Wow! :{

 

[backroad]

OOPS... ... Sorry about some of the spelling on my previous post. It's 2:30 in the morning, couldn't sleep and could resist adding my 2 cents worth.



I still love my Ford... ...



Backroad

 

[_MACKIN]

Redirection..........

Man just when I thought I was out... ... ... .

This has gotten way off topic. To me Flaming is when people start bashing the competition on weaknesses but truthful. An opinion on the competition is what Steve St. Laurent is dragging here. I do respect where he and others are coming from.

What I have seen here in the beginning of this thread is blatant lies with a smidgen of truth. That is not bashing, Case and point Steve has been witness to that we have flamed our on product. So when a few people here do that (post LIES) IMHO and some circle the wagon with there propaganda makes you all look bad and unprofessional keep defending it. It seems after the fact the real professionals come out and clean it up. I don't care I will not loose any sleep over this. To me honesty is the best integrity so when I see the LIES YOU BET I 'LL BE BACK!!!!!!!For the people with the personal problems my heart goes out to you. On a side note that guy with the shift busyness (trussman) the great people over there with there contacts got that resolved for him. I believe last I heard. Here is a couple postings I've been in if you care. The reason why I am here and why I know it is a QUALITY site. Why don't you circle the wagon on the BS ers next time. Lets be done with this I concede Defeat.

Feel sorry for me I have to go out now get in my shiny Chevrolet dually. With 300 hp and 520 ft lbs of torque. (@ the fly wheel don't want problems) and a Allison transmission puttin on the ground.

I think I'll survive... ... ... .

You guys have been great... Thanks for this entertainment... .....



MAC

See these are some ofthe reason I am here real productive Info:

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=35681

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33582

 

[Chris N5CWM]

Uh..hello..

Originally posted by amcintyre

. . Wow I am now ashamed to be a member here. I must inquiry about a refund. It is like being at a childrens play ground, I thought this was an information forum on all diesel.

No, sorry, you're confused with the 6. 2/6. 5 Diesel

Page. This site is for the Cummins ISB in the

Dodge Ram (In case you could not read that when

you first signed up!) We don't

participate in "childs play".

And some people would not want bias brand loyalist BS. I never gave it . Guess not I was wrong. Point me to customer serv. I will not stoop to your level apparently the will allow anyone here MEN and BOYS... ... ... ... ... I am out of here... ... ...

You are the weakest link.



Goodbye!



--

For the TDR fellowship:

Does it seem as though all it takes is for

someone to post with the word "Duramax" to

set off lights and sirens in every GM Diesel

owner's room to warn them they need to get

over to the TDR to snuff out any nay sayers

that might be talking smack about their beloved

munimula Dura-diesel?



They sure do come out of the woodwork in a

hurry!

 

[DieselBuzz]

Ahh??

Back on the first page of the tread I did the link to the GM specs. The connecting rods are listed as " forged steel fractured". I am not an expert but these don't sound too good to me. Can someone explain?

Thanks

 

[_MACKIN]

Here you go.....DieselBuzz

If you want to know go here http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/2001.htm

It won't hurt... promise

go down about half way to:

Duramax 6600 Engine Production



It is in pdf format. I hope you can view.

It will tell you all you want to know and perhaps not want to know .

MAC

 

[mimprevento]

Need to poke fun

Alright the guy with the Duramax made his point he has a nice truck but all is fair in war and I cannot let this go without a dig- I look at the Sig and see lo and behold that the OTHER vehicle is a MONTE CARLO SS- a veritible Lumina with an erection- a wheezing front drive V6 boat anchor that disrespects the term SS- as a Chevy fan who has owned and loved Vettes, Impala SS's and the baddest WS6 Trans AM in Virginia- Actual performance cars- I cannot see to owning up to polluting our roads with such a marketing and engineering disaster- in fact offerings like this prove that Chevy should just sell trucks and zo6 vettes and melt down the other stuff for the war effort- now this is no BS!!!!!!!!

 

[_MACKIN]

mimprevento,





You are correct sir.

It is really my wifes car 90% of the time I drive it when we go out. Can't stand her driving(late braker). I drive the truck. I won't let her drive it no way. That's what she wanted a Monte Carlo. She got it so don't even ask to drive the truck... . LOL

MAC

 

[HiPerf360]

A forged steel fractured rod is the best thing you can get... . do some research before you bash. They are made all in one piece and thn they break the cap off the rod so when you bolt them bact together the fit extreemly tight and the caps cant walk around.

 

[HiPerf360]

Re: Redirection..........

Originally posted by amcintyre

Man just when I thought I was out... ... ... .

They pulled me right back in..... LOL

 

[PRout]

Re: Redirection..........

Originally posted by amcintyre

Feel sorry for me I have to go out now get in my shiny Chevrolet dually. With 300 hp and 520 ft lbs of torque. (@ the fly wheel don't want problems) and a Allison transmission puttin on the ground.

I think I'll survive... ... ... .

You guys have been great... Thanks for this entertainment... .....

Sounds like ALMOST enough power. Too bad its power curve is more like a gasser. Thats why we went to diesels for pulling.



Its a shame that allison is turning out to be a limiting factor, we were wanting them in the Dodge, but we would have quite a conflict having a motor that puts out say 1000 FT LBS, and a transmission that wants to limit you to 520.



Good Luck! Thats a sharp looking truck. The pic of it in front of all that snow looks really cool (no pun).



Youll be back like ALL the others. And you'll be welcome back. That is as long as you dont come here just to stirr the pot - AGAIN.

 

[1tuffram]

AMCINTYRE

I have a question which is probably off-topic for this thread (I have not read all the posts in this thread). My question concerns axles. As you may know Dodge is ditching Dana and going with American Axle in 2003. It has been my impression

American Axle is a division/part of GMC and you GM/Chevy guys are running American Axle in your trucks. How are the axles holding up?? Any problems? In the 3rd Generation forum there's a thread (Dana vs American Axle??) looking for more info on American Axle and how they compare to the current Dana's in the RAMS.

 

[_MACKIN]

1tuffram,





I can't be off much assistance on how well the hold up because mine is a young-in. I do know that American Axle is just that the housing. Don't believe still a subsidiary of GM. Take a look for your self.

http://www.aam.com/technology/tech_prod_dl_rearaxle.html

As far as the differential it is an Eaton Locker

11. 5 in the http://www.traction.eaton.com/product.htm#what2

#ad


I did hear of one guy look back on this thread high mileage that had a locker replaced @ 100,000 for I think noise. I am not sure what differential will be in the Dodge. Best to form your own opinion on this one.

MAC

 

[MABurns]

http://www.aam.com/global/global_worldhq.html



AAM was a division of GM. GM made their own axles up until 1994 , but sold off there axles manufacturing facilities.



The new company became AAM.



It is now a joint GM - DC venture, and they are exclusive suppliers to Dodge for the new pickups. That is a program life contract.



AAM makes the GM Corporate 14 bolt full floater.

 

[Rcpilotlv]

After reading posts here and posts on other sites is just seems apparent, that CUMMINS is the standard that every diesel is measured to. . kinda like Honda motorcycles... Actually thats not a bad thing... thats what makes competition and gives us better products... . Does any one really think that there product is that much better then anyone elses... whether you drive a ford,dodge or chevy. Honda,yamaha or suzuki if it gets you from point a to b its done its job! Im just glad we all have more then one choice,so should you

 

[Steve Roseman]

So...the crank isn't cast?

After reading through all these pages, this mess was actually solved on the first one.

Isuzu has had this motor in service in Europe for quite some time, it isn't new.

Maybe we can start in on aluminum heads again. Probably shouldn't since Cummins is working on an aluminum head V6 and V8 for lighter duty vehicles.

I love my Dodge. I will show brand loyalty with a wink . Around here I feel a comraderie with any diesel owner, most farmers wouldn't think of racing anyway.

People should make sure when they start telling stories that derived from heresay, they need to clarify it.

"I knew a guy who's Dad worked with this guy who's uncle had a Cummins throw a rod through the side of the block... ..... "



Point taken?