Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Edge or Marco's

[RJPotts]

Alright, looks like I need to sell some of my other toys so I can get the stuff I need to put the power to the ground.

Thanks all.

-R. J.

 

[DieselMinded]

IS THE CATCHER SAFE TO USE WITH AN EDGE COMP BOX ON 5x5 ???



DM

 

[KatDiesel]

IS THE CATCHER SAFE TO USE WITH AN EDGE COMP BOX ON 5x5 ???

DM

Get the "Comp" friendly version of the Catcher and its supposed to work fine. I really haven't turned the COMP box on since getting the Catcher, but I have one of the first releases so eventually I need Marco to reflash it.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Chad, you will be surrounded my CaTCHERs in no time at all. :-laf



you will see

 

[DieselMinded]

I cant wait ... ...



Hopefully Your Loaner will get me back on the road And All will be well .....



Then I can place my order



DM

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Here were the numbers from my truck. Now these weren't done on the same day, but at different times, with different mods.



Stock (AFE Intake and 4 " exhaust )

236 HP 489. 5 TQ

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Marco ECM 266. 1 674. 4 TQ

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Edge EZ 273. 4 687. 1 TQ



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If I ever buy another 24 valve truck for pleasure, The Marco ECM will be my first mod ( after gauges and exhaust ) Others have since dynoed with the Catcher that had WAY more modifications than me and actually lost HP. I believe DLeonard's truck was the one that actually lost HP when he and Jetpilot dynoed with different mods on the truck to see what the best combination was for whatever it was they were trying to accomplish.



I have dyno sheets for all of these runs, unfortunately, I have no way to post them , if you all were interested in comparing HP/TQ curves. I do however have a FAX I could send them to someone that in turn could post it, if anyone was interested.

 

[MKinner]

So what is it about the Catcher that you and a lot others like more than the EZ? There must be a very different driving characteristic about it that the EZ can not do. It's strange to think something that makes a bit less HP and TQ is really much better to drive. Thanks for posting the dyno results...

 

[rivercat]

I WANT MORE!!!
This bump where the bug bit me is growing out of control.
What I want to know is what should I do???
I would like to be in the 400 hp range or so, more if possible.
I was thinking OFE, Comp or Drag Comp or Marco's, injectors (not sure which ones), and a different turbo or possibly two of them (again, not sure what).

I would like to be as cost efficient as possible but I don't want garbage. It has to be very driveable, I don't want to have to watch the pyro gauge like a hawk all of the time.
Fuel economy has to stay close to the same or improve.

(60% city, 30% highway, 10% towing, 0% driving sensibly)

Get some of don's sticks and quit kicking a dead horse!

 

[darkhorse]

So what is it about the Catcher that you and a lot others like more than the EZ? There must be a very different driving characteristic about it that the EZ can not do. It's strange to think something that makes a bit less HP and TQ is really much better to drive. Thanks for posting the dyno results...

The power differences in dyno testing are small enough to be insignificant. The big difference is in throttle response. I've run both the EZ & the CaTCHER. The CaTCHER works much better for me.

 

[Supermod56]

So what is it about the Catcher that you and a lot others like more than the EZ? There must be a very different driving characteristic about it that the EZ can not do. It's strange to think something that makes a bit less HP and TQ is really much better to drive. Thanks for posting the dyno results...

Drivability!!! The thing has the throttle response as good as a gasser, no "Turbo Lag". Most think it's the program that should have been installed at the factory, it's that good, even better with a set of Don's 1. 6 sticks, I love it!!



Tom

 

[Marco]

Does the CatCHER add HP???

Uhm, dunno!



No, c'mon SERIOUS now.

To begin with, fellas you're doing great! I can retire, you don't need my help no longer! LOL



D@# I said serious!

I think the most asked question about the CaTCHER is how much horsepower does it add? My answer is usually, NONE.



Why that statement?

I mean, the original definition of one HP is, the force needed to lift one kilogram, one meter, in one second.



In other words, how fast you can move an object.

Since the CaTCHER MOVES the trucks faster, it's clear as mud that he HAS to add power. Otherwise the truck would move slower... .



Yet, I still say it does not add HP? WHY? :-{}



See, if you read the advertising hype, everybody claims HP gains UP TO this and Up to that.

Argh, I HATE up to claims!

I don't want to make names, but we all know that there are a lot of products that claim to add HP and gain MPG too, while it is impossible that the mod alone could possibly produce any horsepower gain on it's own. Certain fuel pump mods come to mind... .



Here comes the man, Marco, ME into the game.

See, "up to" claims are not my style. I'm the kinda guy that tells black when it's black and white when it's white. Gray is difficult to define. To each his own definition what gray means to him. Consider that after all, I'm simply a horsepower junkie diesel enthusiast like most of you. Only, I've pushed my addiction a little further than most.



Mine is a small company. I don't HAVE to sell the CaTCHER to survive. I don't NEED to claim up to, for sales. In all reality,and to tell you the whole truth, I can make more money with my everydays job than what I make with the CaTCHER. It's more a hobby than a bussiness for me. No matter how much it might grow, it is and will remain my hobby. I think I understand your needs better and am closer to them, than the manager sitting on it's multi million chair...



I think you got the picture.



Even if the dyno graphs say that I'm wrong.

I still say that the CaTCHER does not add horsepower, but the truck moves faster!



Ciao,



Marco

 

[fox]

Great reply Marco!

All I say to those who ask about power is this, try a catcher and you will buy it.

If we went to the dyno and made a run at 1/4 throttle, with a stock Ecm and then with a Catcher, I bet it is evident.



Catcher--- the way it should be from the factory.

 

[Marco]

If we went to the dyno and made a run at 1/4 throttle, with a stock Ecm and then with a Catcher, I bet it is evident.

That test wouldn't be valid!

Like comparing Apples to Peanuts! :-laf :-laf



Marco

 

[smittybuilt]

marco, i sent you a pm.

 

[Marco]

Got it.

Reply in the works!



Marco

 

[Murle]

No one can detect a modification on your truck

 

[smittybuilt]

sounds good thanks.

 

[MKinner]

Alright, you guys have me sold. I will be giving Bob a call. Marco, good reply and thanks for being HONEST.

 

[rweis]

Do youstill need a boost fooler with Marco's?



Bob Weis

 

[Bob Wagner]

Do youstill need a boost fooler with Marco's?



Bob Weis

nope built right in