Emissions stuff on an 06 5.9

[Blakers]

Folks, I recently wrecked my 03 6 speed that I bought new. RAV4 pulled out in front of me. Nailed her at 20 mph. Truck totaled by insurance due to mileage and age, but bought it back and now must jump through hoops to get her back on the road.

Anyway, I've been looking at other 3rd gen trucks to buy. Looking for rust free or close to rust free and have found several. Lots of 6.7's - all deleted. I hear in Pennsylvania deleted trucks will no longer pass inspection, so I'm avoiding them and staying with 5.9s.

Question, do 2006 5.9s have any emissions stuff, and, if so, what? My 03 has none.

Thanks.

 

[bigceltic]

Folks, I recently wrecked my 03 6 speed that I bought new. RAV4 pulled out in front of me. Nailed her at 20 mph. Truck totaled by insurance due to mileage and age, but bought it back and now must jump through hoops to get her back on the road.

Anyway, I've been looking at other 3rd gen trucks to buy. Looking for rust free or close to rust free and have found several. Lots of 6.7's - all deleted. I hear in Pennsylvania deleted trucks will no longer pass inspection, so I'm avoiding them and staying with 5.9s.

Question, do 2006 5.9s have any emissions stuff, and, if so, what? My 03 has none.

Thanks.

Sorry to hear about your truck! I don't believe they do, unless you count the catalytic converter. I am certainly not aware of any on mine!

 

[Blakers]

Thanks. That’s what I was thinking too. 03 had no cat.
I wonder if my van Aaken C3.2 will work on an 06?

 

[Ozymandias]

Only the passive Cat, no sensors, no nothing.

Much more power then your 03 and a transmission that behaves almost modern.

 

[Blakers]

Only the passive Cat, no sensors, no nothing.

Much more power then your 03 and a transmission that behaves almost modern.

Wow, thanks! I didn’t know they had that much more power. 325 vs 305?

 

[Ozymandias]

Torque makes the difference.

 

[Blakers]

Torque makes the difference.

Ok. 600 vs 555

 

[CVR222NV]

Other than the cat I believe the only other difference is the bowl design on the pistons.

 

[Blakers]

Same tuners should work? I have a van Aaken C3.2 on my 03.

 

[Ozymandias]

610 - mine is the 600 engine.

 

[Ozymandias]

Same tuners should work? I have a van Aaken C3.2 on my 03.

Probably not, from what I see there are different versions of your box for different model years.
Also the ECM differs from year to year.

Your box is good for 03-04.5 from what I found.

 

[Ozymandias]

But the 06 ECM is capable to control an EB if needed.

 

[Blakers]

Probably not, from what I see there are different versions of your box for different model years.
Also the ECM differs from year to year.

Your box is good for 03-04.5 from what I found.

Ok, thanks. Probably not a big deal as they have more power to begin with. I think van Aaken is out of business, so probably can't ask them. And there are other tuners I am sure.

 

[AH64ID]

Your Van Aken likely won’t work since the wiring harnesses are different. It’s a duration box, which is better than a pressure box, but I personally wouldn’t run a more duration without timing on a CR, especially on a 04.5-07 motor.

As far as emission go the cat, as mentioned, is the only external device.

Internal to the motor the cam (same part number as 03-04) includes some in-cylinder EGR, the pistons are non-retentrant design and why the 04.5-07’s produce much more soot in the oil, the 06-07’s reduced exhaust valve lash to presumably reduce exhaust flow for more in-cylinder EGR, and lastly the turbo has an undersized housing also contributing to the in-cylinder EGR.

So that’s how Cummins was able to meet the emissions at the time without an external EGR.

Great motors and they really wake up with a little timing, like a Smatry Jr.

 

[Ozymandias]

Yeah, I love my Smarty.
Now with the upgraded transmission I can finally run it on Performance.
After almost ten years in the Tow setting.

 

[Blakers]

To update my post:
I bought a nice rust-free 2005 2500 4x4 auto today. It’s in great shape with only 186,500 miles. Engine is entirely stock with no tuner. Transmission was rebuilt two months ago. Even has original exhaust.

 

[Blakers]

I had posted a question here, but moved it to a new topic.

 

[lawdog1]

I have ‘06 for sale in classified section, has the cat on it and MM3 from Rob at 5.9 Tunes. Congrats on your “new to you” ‘05!