Fumoto F-104

[MarkEagleUSA]

Someone earlier mentioned cutting the threaded portion down so it didn't protude into the pan. That combined with some thread locker should alleviate all the concerns, right? I wonder why they aren't manufactured with shorter threads to begin with.

 

[Cummins2014]

Someone earlier mentioned cutting the threaded portion down so it didn't protude into the pan. That combined with some thread locker should alleviate all the concerns, right? I wonder why they aren't manufactured with shorter threads to begin with.

I agree

 

[Newsa]

when a difference makes no difference, some people will still worry about a difference. LOL

I guess there really is ONLY partial fluid changes? No such thing as a full fluid change? Goal: change as much as physics and design will allow.

 

[TMyers]

Someone earlier mentioned cutting the threaded portion down so it didn't protude into the pan. That combined with some thread locker should alleviate all the concerns, right? I wonder why they aren't manufactured with shorter threads to begin with.

You wouldn't have to cut the threaded portion down. Cut a slot in it like a sink waste drain. Sink drain manufactures mill a slot in the drain pipe. This is done to allow the drain to be used on any thickness of sink. Cut, file or mill a slot just down to the last thread that makes contact with the oil pan. They are made of brass so a few strokes with a file on edge will cut it fairly easy. Oil will drain through the slots. Or, if you can clean the threads, drill a hole in the side of the threads above the last contact point.

 

[Cummins2014]

You wouldn't have to cut the threaded portion down. Cut a slot in it like a sink waste drain. Sink drain manufactures mill a slot in the drain pipe. This is done to allow the drain to be used on any thickness of sink. Cut, file or mill a slot just down to the last thread that makes contact with the oil pan. They are made of brass so a few strokes with a file on edge will cut it fairly easy. Oil will drain through the slots. Or, if you can clean the threads, drill a hole in the side of the threads above the last contact point.

Or just pull the fumoto after its done draining.

 

[6V92TA]

Or just pull the fumoto after its done draining.

ultimately defeating the purpose of the fumitomo . LOL

 

[kthaxton]

ultimately defeating the purpose of the fumitomo . LOL

Actually it doesn't. I believe most people, myself included, use the Fumoto to have a more controlled drain that doesn't make a mess, some like it for sampling too. I slide a tube on it, direct it into the container, no more flood mess.

Regardless for me, it's not about avoiding the use of a wrench.

 

[6V92TA]

Khtthaxton. I can't speak for anyone else but it seems to me if a person went to the trouble of removing the Fumitomo from the oil pan with hand tools they are right back where they would have been with a drain plug thereby defeating the main purpose of the fumitomo valve, which is to eliminate removing a drain plug.

 

[kthaxton]

Khtthaxton. I can't speak for anyone else but it seems to me if a person went to the trouble of removing the Fumitomo from the oil pan with hand tools they are right back where they would have been with a drain plug thereby defeating the main purpose of the fumitomo valve, which is to eliminate removing a drain plug.

Nope, as I'm sure you know, when you first remove the drain plug...it comes down in a torrent and usually (for me anyway) made a huge mess. Yes, I tried a could different methods, still made a mess. I'm sure at some point I would have found the right bucket, but instead, I use the Fumoto.
I hook the tube up, open the valve, and let it drain for a while. For those that want to drain all of it, you then remove the Fumoto at this point when there is only a trickle of oil and not a flood.

As I mentioned before, the one time I removed it to see if more oil came out, there was no appreciable amount of oil coming out, however, many others recently pointed out that they did.....which makes me want to try it again on my next oil change.

So to summarize, for me and many others, it's about avoiding the huge gush of oil, not simply trying to get away without using a wrench.

 

[Cummins2014]

Khtthaxton. I can't speak for anyone else but it seems to me if a person went to the trouble of removing the Fumitomo from the oil pan with hand tools they are right back where they would have been with a drain plug thereby defeating the main purpose of the fumitomo valve, which is to eliminate removing a drain plug.

Let me try also, the Fumoto was bought for twenty something dollars , to eliminate the rush of oil ,and messiness . Its a 15 second operation to remove it. Please try to understand.

Soon as I took a look at it, I couldn't see where it was going to let all the oil out, so from the start I started removing it. It was purchased to prevent the big rush of hot oil, not having to remove it was just a bonus. No big deal removing it . The big thing for me is getting as much oil out as possible, and over a pint is too much for me.

 

[6V92TA]

yall can microanalyze an oil change all you want, I bought the valve so draining oil required no tools. Honestly aren't worried about 1/16th of an inch worth of oil if its still hanging out in the oil pan, it mixes well with the other quart or so of used oil that is still in the engine along with the 12 quarts of new oil I dump in there when I flip the valve shut.

 

[Cummins2014]

yall can microanalyze an oil change all you want, I bought the valve so draining oil required no tools. Honestly aren't worried about 1/16th of an inch worth of oil if its still hanging out in the oil pan, it mixes well with the other quart or so of used oil that is still in the engine along with the 12 quarts of new oil I dump in there when I flip the valve shut.

Its great that we all have a choice. some change from the top, some thru the fender, some go synthetic, some go dino. Some have a drain valve, some don't, get the idea.

 

[kthaxton]

Some like wrenches, some do not. [emoji16]

 

[Cummins12V98]

I will be installing a Fumoto in my boat for ease of draining it and will most likely get more oil out than siphoning it out.

Yes these newer trucks are VERY messy to drain. I use my late Father In Laws milk bucket with ZERO mess.

Wasn't that nice of me to click "full image" ???

 

[6V92TA]

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Wasn't that nice of me to click "full image" ???

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I thought it was petty and vindictive. LOL

 

[Cummins2014]

I will be installing a Fumoto in my boat for ease of draining it and will most likely get more oil out than siphoning it out.

Yes these newer trucks are VERY messy to drain. I use my late Father In Laws milk bucket with ZERO mess.

Wasn't that nice of me to click "full image" ???

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Now isn't that great, yet another choice. Is that a 2x6 or 2x8 you got sitting under there, or is the choice up to the one using the bucket ? Length of the 2 by would also be helpful.

 

[Cummins2014]

[QUOTE="Cummins12V98,

Wasn't that nice of me to click "full image" ???

I thought it was petty and vindictive. LOL[/QUOTE]

I thought is was very helpful, you sound a bit touchy. Maybe the thought of leaving a bit of oil in the pan with that fumoto

 

[6V92TA]

as I've said, before, one of my rules to live life by is " don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.".

personally I have a lot of fun talking with you guys, you all are the type who keep me entertained .
I don't worry about the sort of nonsense you people seem to dwell on, but it is entertaining to watch some of you make a career out of creating nonsense , then dwelling on it and beating the nonsensical subject to death.

I'm just here to keep your type going.

 

[Cummins2014]

as I've said, before, one of my rules to live life by is " don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.".

personally I have a lot of fun talking with you guys, you all are the type who keep me entertained .
I don't worry about the sort of nonsense you people seem to dwell on, but it is entertaining to watch some of you make a career out of creating nonsense , then dwelling on it and beating the nonsensical subject to death.

I'm just here to keep your type going.

I don't believe that nonsense at all

 

[Cummins12V98]

I'm here for purely entertainment value.

I tried a 2x4 but with the force the oil comes out I changed to a 2x6 to keep the pail stable. It's about 12" long.