Goodyear Duratrac vs Goodyear Duratrac RT

[Timd32]

Just a heads up if looking for Goodyear Duratrac RT vs Commercial Duratrac.

Duratrac RT > Blackwall Only (correct me if this is wrong)

Duratrac > Raised White Letters

Just in case you are looking RT are out of stock often, so you may need to wait. They are not the same.

Images from Tire Rack (I did not get tires from them, just photos only.)

Here are the tread differences.

Still a Made in USA tire, similar warranty. Just not the same.

 

[AH64ID]

The RT has a mileage warranty where the standard Duratrac does not.

 

[brucejohnson]

I looked on the Goodyear site and noticed the tread blocks have different sipping and there was a comment that the RT has 3 sidewall plies for durability. I couldn't find the tire/tread ply specs for each tire on the goodyear site. The tread diameter, width and tire weight differences may hint to an additional ply, but without access to data or sidewall it's only an opinion.

 

[Timd32]

Yes no mileage warranty either.

Yeah if you ever have to question folks, make sure you check all the small details.

Price is only $17 more each ($68 a set) for the RT. It's worth the couple extra bucks.

 

[AH64ID]

Yes no mileage warranty either.

Yeah if you ever have to question folks, make sure you check all the small details.

Price is only $17 more each ($68 a set) for the RT. It's worth the couple extra bucks.

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There is a standard Duratrac with 3PMSF too.

 

[Timd32]

There is a standard Duratrac with 3PMSF too.

Thanks. I'm sure mine are not the 3PMSF version unless that's on the side wall somewhere.

They are all pretty nice tires Made in USA, specs are really close.

My main issue was I requested the RT, when I ordered them the RT was not stock in Black Side Wall, they told me that they had Raised White Letter ones that also were not stock but listed at only 3 weeks lead time, they could flip them around. So I signed off on raised white letter turned inside, not knowing RTs don't come in raised white letters, that's the normal version, which led to the wow factor.

When I saw them installed was super surprised at the tires and was like those can't be what I ordered. But when I did all the digging figured out where the disconnect was. I told the service writer immediately that's not the correct tire, but look I'm not waiting any more weeks for tires, this started 6 weeks ago. I figured out what I did wrong by approving the raised white letters turned around.

They don't care either way they are not a tire shop. If it was up to them they recommended Transforce! I should have known at that time not to get the tires done. It was one of those for ease of dropping off the truck for some recalls, and get the tires done and be back on the road in one visit vs multiple at a second place.

 

[AH64ID]

Ok, now your first post makes a lot more sense. You got the wrong tires….

If you live anywhere is snow or ice, or rain, I would take those tires back and return them asap if they don’t have the 3PMSF. The durstrac without 3PMSF is downright dangerous on slick roads once they get to about 50% tread.

3PMSF will be a logo on the sidewall. The logo looks like the symbol next to the 3PMSF spec on your RT photo above.

Odd that the RT was more money, that was not the case when I bought mine last year.

 

[JR]

There is a standard Duratrac with 3PMSF too.

I believe the non RT Tim posted is the standard Duratrac. Both should be 3PMSF rated. I had them on my 98, one of the better tires I've ever had. Then again I've never had a bad GY tire.

 

[Timd32]

Ok, now your first post makes a lot more sense. You got the wrong tires….

If you live anywhere is snow or ice, or rain, I would take those tires back and return them asap if they don’t have the 3PMSF. The durstrac without 3PMSF is downright dangerous on slick roads once they get to about 50% tread.

3PMSF will be a logo on the sidewall. The logo looks like the symbol next to the 3PMSF spec on your RT photo above.

Odd that the RT was more money, that was not the case when I bought mine last year.

I go back tomorrow to pick up my other truck thay had a leak and a few recalls they had to fix.

Will let them know they won't work, honestly my gut feeling is they are going to most likely stick me with these either way, never know really, the service writer when I told them they were wrong before he even gave my keys back just said he did not order them some other guy did.

I asked what that part number was in the invoice, he said it's an internal number.

I can see Tire Rack is more money for the standard, but the Goodyear site they are swapped RT more, so hard to say. Did not order from either.

Not a huge deal, can figure it out, sucks they won't work. I have a few trucks that I can run these on, so I just figured run them on the big truck for a while then swap over to one of my my other trucks in a few months.

If they are not good for this area, I would hesitate to even sell locally, that's pretty crappy to pass on bad tires, you know I'm going to sell at a loss and someone would be trying to save a buck because they don't have a buck.

Of course when these were wrong I wanted to use these to plow with, figured they may work for that. I need a plow truck next year, have not decided what truck to put the plow on yet, they both can run this tire, but not if it's no good.

Here is my note that I wrote when I made the app.

I actually called them since the appt was 6 weeks out, asked if that was a system error was there a faster app, NO, then asked about the tires as most places were showing back order, that's when he offered the Raised White Letter deal turned in and I said fine. Not knowing they were a completely different tire.

I believe the non RT Tim posted is the standard Duratrac. Both should be 3PMSF rated. I had them on my 98, one of the better tires I've ever had. Then again I've never had a bad GY tire.

Yeah nothing noted on the tire the above does not list the snow rating.

This is from the goodyear site, LT275/70R18 not rated.

Winter Performance
Three-Peak Mountain Snowflake Designation (Excluding size LT275/65R18 113Q , LT275/70R18 125R and LT285/75R18 129Q)

 

[JR]

I go back tomorrow to pick up my other truck thay had a leak and a few recalls they had to fix.

Will let them know they won't work, honestly my gut feeling is they are going to most likely stick me with these either way, never know really, the service writer when I told them they were wrong before he even gave my keys back just said he did not order them some other guy did.

I asked what that part number was in the invoice, he said it's an internal number.

I can see Tire Rack is more money for the standard, but the Goodyear site they are swapped RT more, so hard to say. Did not order from either.

Not a huge deal, can figure it out, sucks they won't work. I have a few trucks that I can run these on, so I just figured run them on the big truck for a while then swap over to one of my my other trucks in a few months.

If they are not good for this area, I would hesitate to even sell locally, that's pretty crappy to pass on bad tires, you know I'm going to sell at a loss and someone would be trying to save a buck because they don't have a buck.

Of course when these were wrong I wanted to use these to plow with, figured they may work for that. I need a plow truck next year, have not decided what truck to put the plow on yet, they both can run this tire, but not if it's no good.

Here is my note that I wrote when I made the app.

I actually called them since the appt was 6 weeks out, asked if that was a system error was there a faster app, NO, then asked about the tires as most places were showing back order, that's when he offered the Raised White Letter deal turned in and I said fine. Not knowing they were a completely different tire.

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Yeah nothing noted on the tire the above does not list the snow rating.

This is from the goodyear site, LT275/70R18 not rated.

Winter Performance
Three-Peak Mountain Snowflake Designation (Excluding size LT275/65R18 113Q , LT275/70R18 125R and LT285/75R18 129Q)

Very weird they exclude 3 sizes from the designation. Thanks for that, I'd of likely not caught that.

 

[JR]

Here it is for anyone else interested, as Tim posted above, from GY website.

 

[Timd32]

Here it is for anyone else interested, as Tim posted above, from GY website.
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As soon as you mount them for I feel there will be little to discuss on pick up.

Screen grab from Goodyear........

And of course the RT and RT-LT have a 60 day gaurentee! Why would they not in this case....

Maybe they can for the '96 with a new set of wheels. Those are date coded out many years, I've had that truck 10 years it's never even seen rain but one or two times. But the hold back there is it already has a plow. Which I don't use. But it has it all ready to go beside the solenoid I removed that and the controller, but the mount is still on the truck and the plow has lived in the garage for 10 years.

This 3500 with the tire deal has never seen a winter either yet, it lived inside last winter and this winter, I have other rigs that I use in the slush / brine / snow, but I have nothing that I can't jump in and go for a rig like the 3500, it's not a garage queen all shiny and the sort polished, it comes out after the storms and the roads are not a complete salt disaster. I put 26k miles on it in 27 months.

But I would toss a plow on this 3500 for next year, if that's the best rig for my purpose. Can treat the undercarriage and the sort.

 

[AH64ID]

Pretty odd that the 275/70R18 isn’t included, I wonder why.

 

[BarryG]

That is odd. I have the regular duratracs 275/70/18 and they are 3 peak rated. Looking up the duratrac rt on tirerack and it states the RT's in 275/70/18 are 3 peak rated. In fact they have a picture and it shows on the tire as you can see it that it is 3 peak rated, however the tire size in the picture is 275/65/18 but that is also listed above as one of the sizes that is not.

Now thoroughly confused as to what they heck the real deal is with that rating and that size. I had planned on using them when the current regular duratracs are done which is probably late this year.

 

[AH64ID]

That is odd. I have the regular duratracs 275/70/18 and they are 3 peak rated. Looking up the duratrac rt on tirerack and it states the RT's in 275/70/18 are 3 peak rated. In fact they have a picture and it shows on the tire as you can see it that it is 3 peak rated, however the tire size in the picture is 275/65/18 but that is also listed above as one of the sizes that is not.

Now thoroughly confused as to what they heck the real deal is with that rating and that size. I had planned on using them when the current regular duratracs are done which is probably late this year.

Interesting, I wonder why they stopped making the 275/70R18’s 3PMSF.

I believe all RT’s are 3PMSF.

 

[JR]

That is odd. I have the regular duratracs 275/70/18 and they are 3 peak rated.

That aligns with what i recall when looking at them a few years ago, they had the rating still. I know the 18" Duratrac sizes are OE on a handful of trucks now, I wonder if that's got anything to do with it, and why they came out with the RT?
Being an OE tire a harder compound would likely be needed.

 

[brucejohnson]

Not sure what "Commercial All -Terrain" entails, but it is listed on Tire Rack's site where the lesser featured DuraTrac is listed.


Note the on the second screenshot below for the Commercial All-Terrain tires there are two different load range LT275/70R18 tires. Both the black wall (LR D) and white lettered (LR E) DO NOT have the severe snow service rating or the 50,000-mile tread life warranty.
The DuraTrac RT tires have the Severe Snow Service rating and the 50,000-mile tread life warranty.
Old vs. new series? "Ruggedized" 3-ply side wall on the RT?

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Goodyear links

Wrangler DuraTrac® RT-LT Tires | Goodyear Tires

Wrangler DuraTrac® Tires | Goodyear Tires

 

[JR]

Rebel, Tremor, and Trailboss (I think) come with Duratracs from the factory, 18" wheel size. But these are all 1/2 ton trucks and likely don't spec an LRE tire. Are there any 3/4 trucks that spec this tire as OE? I am wondering if GY changed up the composition to appeal to the manufacturers. Between those 3 trucks alone that's a big contract. A tire that meets the 3PMSF rating probably wouldn't make for the best tire for the majority of the country that isn't concerned with this rating.

Just thinking out loud here. There must be a reason those 3 sizes are excluded but the rest of the traditional Duratrac lineup meets the 3PMSF.

 

[brucejohnson]

Rebel, Tremor, and Trailboss (I think) come with Duratracs from the factory, 18" wheel size. But these are all 1/2 ton trucks and likely don't spec an LRE tire. Are there any 3/4 trucks that spec this tire as OE? I am wondering if GY changed up the composition to appeal to the manufacturers. Between those 3 trucks alone that's a big contract. A tire that meets the 3PMSF rating probably wouldn't make for the best tire for the majority of the country that isn't concerned with this rating.

Just thinking out loud here. There must be a reason those 3 sizes are excluded but the rest of the traditional Duratrac lineup meets the 3PMSF.

I think those sizes and specs are under the "Commercial All Terrain" DuraTracs. The RTs all show 3 peaks and mileage warranties...and three-ply sidewalls.

 

[JR]

I think those sizes and specs are under the "Commercial All Terrain" DuraTracs. The RTs all show 3 peaks and mileage warranties.

You are right. Commercial is the correct name. I call them "traditional " because they (the commercial) are the tread pattern many have known for years. The RT is a slightly tighter pattern.