Headlight Adjustment. Help!!!

[Rowdy Dalton]

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I also have found that Phillips Xtreme Vision bulbs were a definite upgrade for 3rd gen headlights.

In fact, after putting them in my truck and seeing how good they are, with ZERO downsides, I started running them in ALL of my families vehicles !!

Of course retrofitting either DIY or aftermarket PROJECTOR grade headlights into the 3rd gen housings will work much better then the simple bulb upgrade !!!

I agree. Projector headlights are a definite improvement over stock. But, for me, I like the way my Stock 06 headlights look. I'm going to see if the newer LED bulbs can be adjusted enough to work in the factory housings. From what I've read, they can. Plus, I would save a lot on cost if this would work.

 

[petersonj]

I'm going to see if the newer LED bulbs can be adjusted enough to work in the factory housings. From what I've read, they can.

Adjustable LED headlights will work better than non-adjustable LED headlights, but they will not replace the light pattern of an incandescent bulb designed to work with an incandescent bulb reflector. If the light pattern from the LED bulb is not replicated, then the reflector cannot fully do its job.

Hold up the incandescent bulb beside the LED bulb. You will clearly see that the placement of each light emitting diode of the LED bulb cannot perform the same duty as the filament inside the incandescent bulb, therefore the LED bulb cannot maximize the effectiveness of the existing reflectors. Some light will be directed to where it should go; much light will be scattered.

- John

 

[seafish]

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This is exactly correct ... the reflector style housings on our trucks REQUIRE exact filament placement within the bulb to even begin to function without scattering excess light and possibly blinding oncoming drivers.
While it may be possible for one of the new style "adjustable" LED bulbs to begin to mimic filament position, I fail to understand how they can really do a proper job of that.

That said, I DO hope that it works well and please DO post back with your results...maybe with pics from the cab of that compare the nighttime lighting of the Phillips bulbs versus the LED bulbs

 

[Rowdy Dalton]

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This is exactly correct ... the reflector style housings on our trucks REQUIRE exact filament placement within the bulb to even begin to function without scattering excess light and possibly blinding oncoming drivers.
While it may be possible for one of the new style "adjustable" LED bulbs to begin to mimic filament position, I fail to understand how they can really do a proper job of that.

That said, I DO hope that it works well and please DO post back with your results...maybe with pics from the cab of that compare the nighttime lighting of the Phillips bulbs versus the LED bulbs

When that time comes, I will definitely report back. Hopefully, with good pictures.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

With all the discussion of headlight voltage, I was curious if anyone is aware that AlfaOBD is capable of setting it anywhere from 12.6V to 13.2V. Of course this only applies to '06 and newer. Also, It will allow you to have fogs with high beams, and enable 'quad headlamps' to have both filaments lit while on high beam.

 

[Rowdy Dalton]

With all the discussion of headlight voltage, I was curious if anyone is aware that AlfaOBD is capable of setting it anywhere from 12.6V to 13.2V. Of course this only applies to '06 and newer. Also, It will allow you to have fogs with high beams, and enable 'quad headlamps' to have both filaments lit while on high beam.

I didn't know that, thanks.

 

[petersonj]

I was curious if anyone is aware that AlfaOBD is capable of setting it anywhere from 12.6V to 13.2V. Of course this only applies to '06 and newer

Interesting. Is the voltage adjustment just to the headlights, or all exterior lights? My neighbor has a 2011 truck - would this work on his truck?

- John

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

Interesting. Is the voltage adjustment just to the headlights, or all exterior lights? My neighbor has a 2011 truck - would this work on his truck?

- John

The setting is for each headlight individually. As for your neighbor's 2011, the procedure will be the same. I actually performed this adjustment on my '09 to see if it did anything. I made the change on just one headlight to compare, and I noticed a difference, both in intensity and color. This was a couple years ago and unfortunately, I didn't take any pics.

 

[petersonj]

@Mikey-KE7LBB , thank you! That is some really good information. Just out of curiosity, what was the default setting on your truck?

- John

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

Factory setting was 13V. I know that 0.2V doesn't seem like a big difference, but it was noticeable. Too bad it won't allow you to set it closer to 14V, but I'm guessing it has to do with bulb longevity.

 

[petersonj]

Factory setting was 13V. I know that 0.2V doesn't seem like a big difference, but it was noticeable.

Voltage drop and corresponding light output loss are not linear. In your case (if I have done the math correctly) .2 volt loss is about 1.5% which means light output loss is about 5%. That is why you noticed the difference.

It would be interesting to see the voltage drop at the bulb when illuminated. I would guess that it would be at least .5 volts lower.

I appreciate you sharing your information.

- John

 

[Rowdy Dalton]

I ordered the Beamtech H13 S1 LED's. No fan. But, reading many posts, the 06 Dodge trucks can be picky, and flicker. A resistor should take care of that. Hopefully. The LED'S are coming in today, and I should have one installed today, or tomorrow, to compare the difference. Also, if it starts acting up, I won't have to redo both sides.

 

[MBuechle]

Fixed mine.

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[Rowdy Dalton]

Fixed mine.
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Ok, whatcha got in there?

 

[MBuechle]

Morimoto Mini D2S 5.0 projectors https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bixenon-morimoto-mini-d2s-stage-3-CRK-D2S?quantity=1with turbine shrouds, backlit with switchback LED ring for DRLs. The headlight housings are DEPOs from Geno's. If you want an LED solution, Morimoto M LED 2.0 would be it. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bi-led-morimoto-m-led-headlight-projectors-kit-HS-MLED?quantity=1 The Retrofit Source is wear I got everything.

 

[Rowdy Dalton]

Morimoto Mini D2S 5.0 projectors https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bixenon-morimoto-mini-d2s-stage-3-CRK-D2S?quantity=1with turbine shrouds, backlit with switchback LED ring for DRLs. The headlight housings are DEPOs from Geno's. If you want an LED solution, Morimoto M LED 2.0 would be it. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bi-led-morimoto-m-led-headlight-projectors-kit-HS-MLED?quantity=1 The Retrofit Source is wear I got everything.

Those are some nice bright lights. Expensive, but nice. If I were doing a lot of night driving, one of those two might be my choice. but, the extent of my night driving is a two minute drive, to get to my job, in the morning.

 

[MBuechle]

Understood. I drive :30 each way, always dark during winter. All secondary roads are deer infested. Need to replace bumper due to that. I went HID because I was already invested in ballasts but that M-LED looks compelling! Saw your other thread, glad your solution is working for you. I remember back to sealed beams when Halogen retrofits were the hot ticket!

 

[muchsnow]

FYI,...LED bulbs in any housing intended for H bulbs is still illegal (cept for fog lights). Sorry, but I work nights and I've been blinded by many a Dodge truck running illegal lighting. Shame on ya... How many accidents are being caused by this in America?

 

[Rowdy Dalton]

FYI,...LED bulbs in any housing intended for H bulbs is still illegal (cept for fog lights). Sorry, but I work nights and I've been blinded by many a Dodge truck running illegal lighting. Shame on ya... How many accidents are being caused by this in America?

Properly adjusted, and they shouldn't blind oncoming traffic. even factory LED lights will blind oncoming traffic, if the truck is raised without the lights being adjusted, or if the truck is carrying a load in the back.
Sorry you are blinded. Me, I just look away from the light when they are too bright, and hit my high beams.

 

[BigPapa]

even factory LED lights will blind oncoming traffic, if the truck is raised without the lights being adjusted, or if the truck is carrying a load in the back.

OR, if you’re:

• cresting a hill or not on a PERFECTLY flat road
• “off axis” or not meeting them straight on, meeting in a curve, etc

I have more of a problem when they’re behind me. When you meet head-on, it’s just a few seconds. When they’re behind you, it can be for a LONG time.

@muchsnow is just like me, 60 years old. I was told two months ago I have cataracts. That explained a lot to me.

Anyway, he’s probably gone again for a couple years……