Heads Up possible dead pedal fix.

[TCDiesel]

The problem is 10,000s of engines, for example when the Rail is made Bosch has no idea what engine its going to be installed on ,so it maybe a 6.7 in a Ram,Navistar, Peterbuilt, Etc, Now each of the end users are going to mount the engine up with X transmission ,X Chassis, With X companies OP. Bosch is the Injection Producer, Cummins is the power plant builder installed on X Company Chassis, all kinds of variables. 5.9 rail is cast 3 piece ,No restrictions. 6.7 rail scheduled material with 18 component's.

 

[ToddGeisler]

My 2015 2500 has the dead pedal, pretty bad IMO. I find it to be quite irritating, dangerous at times, especially when I have a 10k # trailer on the back. If for what ever reason I need to lift real quick, then get back on again there is nothing there, will sit several seconds before the power comes back.

I'd like to hear more about the REAL root of the issue. Is it a rail problem, or is it something programmed into the computer? Is the torque management a computer issue as well?

I love this truck, tows MUCH better than my 2003 HO, but would be perfect if I could eliminate the dead pedal. I don't need a programmer with more power, just want to eliminate an issue Chrysler should have taken care of in the first place.

 

[RVTRKN]

It doesn't add power, it's not connected to the ECM, it only plugs into the pedal under the dash. So it will be interesting to see what test results for the members that have the ability to do so. But it was told to us, it does not change timing, fueling or fooling of the ECM. It was discussed with the factory reps and they don't think it would change anything but the TPS. The reps are very aware of dead pedal but it's not their field, they are involved in extreme warranty cases, so they would seem to know if it's detrimental to the electronics, but they can't say that it's OK to use.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Rolling about 4-5 mph and then flooring it still gave the big delay while the computers woke up, downshifted, built boost, etc. The BD throttle sensitivity booster eliminated the delay. IMO, it is well worth the money, and I had been skeptical before, thinking it wouldn't do more than flooring the accelerator pedal. I was wrong, the box is well worth having.

 

[MJWenrich]

That is good to hear Joe but it still does not explain why some do and some don't. I am all for trying it but maybe after a little more time on my warranty. I see this in my future or selling the truck is another option and I really do not want to take that hit. Factory reps were helpful but not connected enough to Ram to get results from the factory. THAT is just wrong given what we sprnd on these trucks.

TC, thanks for the offer and I know from past experience you are very knowledgeable. My comments were directed ay your assessment that we with the problem, are just not factoring in the weight of the vehicle and expecting it to perform like a Corvette. We have a problem that should be solved by the factory. That is what warranties are about. If the fix just alters a throttle pressure signal then I will purchase one. If it alters rail pressure, I might be sending you an email and a rail.

Mike

 

[SnoKing]

So how many people report this on www.safercar.gov. If everyone with the problem reported as a safety issue, then the government would make RAM fix it. SNOKING

 

[MJWenrich]

I for one certainly did. I don't really expect anything from the government though. At least in my lifetime.

 

[DMorris]

dead pedal / dead issue ?

I'd like to hear more about the REAL root of the issue. Is it a rail problem, or is it something programmed into the computer? Is the torque management a computer issue as well?

I love this truck, tows MUCH better than my 2003 HO, but would be perfect if I could eliminate the dead pedal. I don't need a programmer with more power, just want to eliminate an issue Chrysler should have taken care of in the first place.

I wish there was more in this thread ; its just more if the same. I don't have the exact same issues as all but I have dead pedal about 50% of the time and really want it fixed. I am not fond of taking it in hoping the dealer will fix anything. I don't need more power just all my power when I need it.
My hero on my older trucks in the past was Todd from TC. He is by far the smartest guy I ever talked to about these trucks. But it sounds like he doesn't have the same issues others here do so he may not find the answer for a while. I sure wish Ram would do something. My 02/03/98.5/06 all had quick throttle response and much less power then my 14 ; yet all would be probably faster in a 0-60mph because of the delay that can be anywhere from less then a 1/2 second to 2 or 3 seconds.
There has to be a real solution here after all it is a real problem.

 

[RVTRKN]

Check out the devise that BD has, and contact Joseph Donnelly to see what he thinks of it, now that he has used it for over a month.

 

[TCDiesel]

Every Time I get the latest updates form Ram it has help in throttle response, the last Transmission update help with the pedal, even tough it was unrelated. Hopefully by Nov 15 Ram will update again and help DP>

 

[Bob4x4]

It doesn't add power, it's not connected to the ECM, it only plugs into the pedal under the dash. So it will be interesting to see what test results for the members that have the ability to do so. But it was told to us, it does not change timing, fueling or fooling of the ECM. It was discussed with the factory reps and they don't think it would change anything but the TPS. The reps are very aware of dead pedal but it's not their field, they are involved in extreme warranty cases, so they would seem to know if it's detrimental to the electronics, but they can't say that it's OK to use.

It does connect to the ecm.......every input to the ecm has the potential to increase emissions and affect other out puts or it would have no affect.

 

[MSicotte]

I've experienced the problem enough times, and a few times in dangerous situations, that I'm willing to give it a try. Called my local diesel performance shop, going there to pick one up tomorrow. I'll post my findings......hope its worth it

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

The BD box connects to the APPS harness above the accelerator pedal.

 

[RVTRKN]

How do you like it, now that you had awhile to run it?

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Not only does the BD box get rid of almost all hesitation aka dead pedal, but it also makes the truck more responsive and "seem" more powerful because of that.

 

[rashwor]

My brother-in-law has a 2012 or so Chrysler 200 and it has the dead pedal issue so this appears to affect more than just Ram trucks. My suspicion is that it is simply the way all the computers are programmed (one or more faulty algorithms) that is causing the issue, but that does not fit with the BD plug-in "fixing" the problem, so I don't know. I know this is one issue I will test for before I buy my next truck. I don't care much for hesitation.

 

[RVTRKN]

The BD fix will work on a lot of models of cars and trucks.

 

[surfbeetle]

My brother-in-law has a 2012 or so Chrysler 200 and it has the dead pedal issue so this appears to affect more than just Ram trucks. My suspicion is that it is simply the way all the computers are programmed (one or more faulty algorithms) that is causing the issue, but that does not fit with the BD plug-in "fixing" the problem, so I don't know. I know this is one issue I will test for before I buy my next truck. I don't care much for hesitation.

I don't have a truck with this issue, but I have a 2014 Challenger R/T with the 5.7 Hemi. There's lots of posts on the Challenger Forums about pulling the #2 Fuse to reset the adaptive learning memory of the engine management. Also, they say to turn on the key and slowly push the pedal down and release it slowly. This is supposed to remap the throttle position sensor. I mention these things and wonder if they could apply to the Rams.

 

[MSicotte]

Installed my BD box in the truck yesterday, so far I am extremely impressed with it. Throttle response is SIGNIFICANTLY better. I set it to the 100% setting (50% seemed like a waste of time...) The first road test was awesome, we'll see if the dead pedal returns.. Time will tell, but even if it does, the throttle response improvement is worth it alone; in my opinion, money well spent.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Is this something that will be detected by the computer and give Chrysler reason to void warranty?