Hey illflem

[baby.driver]

I hope this won't be one of those signatures you ignore.

Let me know if it's too long.



yours,



Jay

 

[illflem]

No problem with that Jay!

Would be nice if you included your truck somewhere though.

 

[Champane Flight]

Nation

A nation thats brings baby into the world to starve, become drug addicts, prostitutes, and finally just bring sick babys into the world, shall feel what? Yes, the taking of life is bad, but which is worse? And don't give me a Bible verse, the little children need more than the word.



Take care of the children that are already here! And the rest will take care of itself.

 

[Shovelhead]

If 'Ya Can't Feed 'Em, Don't Breed 'Em.

 

[me4osu]

ABORTION = MURDER

Plain and simple. Whether you believe in God, or your false impressions of what creates life.

 

[KennyM]

I for one do not believe in Abortion, but then again that is my CHOICE.

 

[LarryB]

Pro choice means the choice not to get pregnant. After that abortion is murder. Pretty straight forward.



If you can't pay the price, don't play the game!

 

[BFC]

After that abortion is murder.

Not according to the Supreme court. Land of the free remember? Free to make your own choices and decisions, weather we agree with it or not.

 

[RustyJC]

Originally posted by KennyM

I for one do not believe in Abortion, but then again that is my CHOICE.

If I truly believe that abortion is the murder of an unborn child, can I realistically be expected to sit idly by and do or say nothing while others carry out the executions of children? As a matter of conscience, that's impossible. That, IMHO is precisely the problem with the "Well, personally, I'm against abortion, but each person has the right to decide for themselves" position.



Come to think of it, has anyone ever heard someone say, "I'm for abortion, but everyone has the right to choose. " Can't say that I ever have.



Rusty

 

[LarryB]

Re: Nation

Originally posted by Champane Flight

A nation thats brings baby into the world to starve, become drug addicts, prostitutes, and finally just bring sick babys into the world, shall feel what? Yes, the taking of life is bad, but which is worse? And don't give me a Bible verse, the little children need more than the word.



Take care of the children that are already here! And the rest will take care of itself.

Champane

You are correct and I agree.

But!

You can't make that choice after conception. It has to be made before conception. After conception, you're committed as a parent or a murderer.

 

[LarryB]

Originally posted by BFC





Not according to the Supreme court. Land of the free remember? Free to make your own choices and decisions, weather we agree with it or not.

My favorite saying, "when politics are involved, all logic is excluded!"

 

[The patriot]

IMO

Abortion is murder. No difference, except that the murderer created the victim.

 

[Straight6Jeff]

How do all you anti-abortionists feel about a womans right to choose who became pregnant as a result of a rape? Not every pregnancy is the result of "play".



LarryB, Me4osu, time to wake up. Not everything is cut and dry.

 

[RustyJC]

How do all you pro-abortionists feel when a child is murdered simply as a matter of convenience when there are couples standing in line waiting to adopt a child that would be nurtured in a loving, caring home?



Rusty

 

[BFC]

How do all you pro-abortionists feel when a child is murdered simply as a matter of convenience when there are couples standing in line waiting to adopt a child that would be nurtured in a loving, caring home?

How come couples are standing in line when there are over 100 000 AMERICAN children living in foster care WAITING to be adopted? Ohh I forgot everybody wants the babys to be born, but once they are all bets are off.



We needs NEW babys to adopt, not four and five years old ones that need a loving family NOW, they probably have some kind of issues or come in the wrong "shade"and that's not convinient. Food for though.



BTW this is not aimed at you Rusty, just my take on it. I know it's a complicated issue and very strong emotions are involved. The way I see it, we should take better care of the ones that are already here first.



Just one man's opinion,



Glenn

 

[RustyJC]

Glenn,



I have no problem with your point regarding children in foster care. Sandy and I have paid our dues and are qualified to speak on that topic having been foster parents for a number of years.



The foster care system was not the topic of my post, however. My point was that the supposed "I don't have any alternative" justification for abortion-for-convenience was invalid. There are many groups who will assist an expectant mother through her pregnancy, even if she does not want to keep the child. The child does not have to be killed.



Rusty

 

[LarryB]

Originally posted by Straight6Jeff

How do all you anti-abortionists feel about a womans right to choose who became pregnant as a result of a rape? Not every pregnancy is the result of "play".



LarryB, Me4osu, time to wake up. Not everything is cut and dry.

Dosen't really matter to the defensless murdered child. Time to wake up. Not everything is cut and dry.

 

[IdaH.O.Train]

As long as we're in the killin mood, I say we take abortion a step farther. Let's say that after having your baby you decide it just isn't working out... abort it. Or maybe somewhere down the line it's not convenient anymore... abort it. Better yet, you fall on hard times. Everyone with children knows how expensive they are to raise... just abort them. Personally, I don't see the difference.



Jeff, I agree that someone who has been raped may not want to carry that child. However, we are talking about a small percentage of abortions being the result of a rape. And there will always be exceptions to every rule.



If it were up to me, I would abort the mothers, and fathers, if that's the case. Anyone with children should feel the same way.

 

[LarryB]

I think we should let the unborn live, grow up, become adults, then decide if the pro choicers should be aborted. Sounds fair to me.



Only clear, fair, real-world way is prevent pregnancy. After that the choice is gone. We just have to deal with it the best we can. Just the thought of a child never learning to smile, take their first step, ride a bike, learn to hit a baseball, spell their name, taste strawberries and ice cream, swim, pet a dog, sing a song, etc. makes me want to cry.



Why do we get to do all this and they don't? There is no answer to that question. We have no right to decide.





All this because the decision was not made when it should have been made. Pull your head out and own up to your responsibilities.

 

[KMC]

Originally posted by BFC





Not according to the Supreme court. Land of the free remember? Free to make your own choices and decisions, weather we agree with it or not.

Countless governments in may places throughout history have deemed murder and all kinds of wicked behavior to be "legal". Since when does this make it okay?



Unfortunatley the U. S. Supreme Court (or any gov't for that matter) is not THE final authority. Somehow I don't think it will be the U. S. Supreme Court that I stand before and give account to when I die. Sure we are free to make our own choices but that does not mean they are without consequence...



Ken