How Much Is Your Diesel Fuel???

[cahammer]

cahammer here again in southern idaho us farmers are worried about fuel shortages for fall harvest and its $3. 09 here in town but i heard on the news yesterday that we could run the red stuff in our "on road" rigs till sept. 15 any truth in that if so that saves me 50 cents a gallon

 

[Regcabguy]

:{ Highest I saw today in Carlsbad, Ca was $3. 68 at a station that always overcharges. Average around here: $3. 19- $3. 29.

 

[Extreme1]

I needed fuel on the 1st (thursday) but had some running to do at lunch. I did stop at the place up the street and clean my windsheild though. Price there at noon was $2. 74. Headed over there after work and they had raised the price to $2. 99. Cruised past the diesel places in the town I work in and filled up at the place I normally do, Amoco, for $2. 75.



Tonight I drive the wife's Z-28 into town to fuel up for tomorrow and it's $3. 09 for regular at Kwik-Trip.

 

[JGK]

While I'll admit there is probably a little gouging going on, I suspect its pretty minimal. Like a local station owner said on the news a few nights ago, they ain't gouging because they can't afford it. With prices this high, every one is shopping around and if you're more than a few cents higher than the next guy, you don't sell fuel.



The real problem with fuel prices is not OPEC (they are pumping about as much as they possibly can), and its not the oil companies themselves, it DEMAND vs. SUPPLY, and DEMAND and gone straight up. And refining capacity has gone down. If you want to blame some one blame China, India and ourselves. The former two are seeing huge growth increases and are really sucking up the available oil. And the latter, US, is just as guilty. Count the number of SUVs and pickups on the road vs econo-boxes.



You wanna help the situation? Write your congressman and tell him you want a new refinery built in your town.



I don't like it any more than you do, but get realistic and stop using old excuses.



-Jay

 

[darkhorse]

its not the oil companies themselves, it DEMAND vs. SUPPLY, and DEMAND and gone straight up.

-Jay[/QUOTE]

While I agree that supply & demand play a primary role, take a look at oil company profits. Who is it that builds refineries anyway? I'd also ask who is supplying our leadership? Are thay connected with the oil industry?

 

[truckstom]

paid 2. 89 yesterday..... 3. 05 for B99 Bio.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Interesting how it seems the West is running much higher than a lot of the country. I thought the hurricane was in Louisiana?? Around here they're mostly $3. 10 - $3. 20.



Check out this website. http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm Note all the locations listed as running "LOW" are under $3 per gallon, while the West is mostly $3+. Kinda shoots a few holes in the "Supply & Demand" theory



Doesn't it just figure. . . Flying J's costliest station in the USA for diesel is our very own Pasco location at $3. 289

 

[SKargo]

Interesting how it seems the West is running much higher than a lot of the country. I thought the hurricane was in Louisiana?? Around here they're mostly $3. 10 - $3. 20.



Check out this website. http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm Note all the locations listed as running "LOW" are under $3 per gallon, while the West is mostly $3+. Kinda shoots a few holes in the "Supply & Demand" theory



Doesn't it just figure. . . Flying J's costliest station in the USA for diesel is our very own Pasco location at $3. 289

The west is higher?!?!??! OK We have prices near or at $4. I think places like Cali are cheaper for the firt time in awhile.

 

[JGK]

While I agree that supply & demand play a primary role, take a look at oil company profits. Who is it that builds refineries anyway? I'd also ask who is supplying our leadership? Are thay connected with the oil industry?

You bet. Oil companies are making huge money, because the buyers are bidding up the price. If you were in the company's shoes and a buyer says he'll pay the going rate of $70 per barrel for your product, would you say, "No, no, that's too much. $35 is fine. "? I have a cousin who works for Chevron. He says they're raking it in, and every dime is being put back into finding and extracting more crude. And yes, they build refineries, as do other companies (Valero, for instance). But due to environmental regulations and the "not in my backyard" attitudes, none have been built in this country for years. It's not really the refinery company's fault.



Vaughn,

The difference in prices is due to several factors, the state's tax rate on gas, the state's requirements for custom blends for polution control (California is big on that), and where it comes from. Certainly those stations closer to refineries are generally cheaper than those farther out. Now Calif. seems to be go against that rule since they have refineries along the coast, but they also have huge demand and special requirements for polution control (which the West coast states are soon to adopt, I've heard, so be prepared for higher-cost gas down the road). Where does Pasco get its fuel? Calif? The terminal in SLC? Is it piped or trucked in? Someone here said ours comes from Alaska. In any case, all that transportation adds to the cost.



Also, who supplies Flying J's gas. Does Flying J have its own wells and refineries? Probably not. So they buy it from the big guys (Chevron, Shell, Exxon, etc. ). But the big guys are keeping it for themselves right now. All the independents are having to buy it on the open market, and they're paying a premium for it.



As for this weekend, I think what we're seeing is the "perfect storm", literally and figuratively. Labor Day weekend which always has huge demand, made worse by a bit of panic buying last week, along with the gulf storm which clipped supply.



As for the connection between Bush the industry, that's open to debate. Certainly I think his trend is to make it easier for the oil companies to do business, but I sincerely doubt any of his policies have caused the current situation.



Just my opinion, of course, and we all know what that's worth



-Jay

 

[Forrest]

Graeagle, Calif ... $3. 74 :--) :--)

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Jay, in recent years this area has been more expensive than the Seattle & Portland area, but it didn't use to be that way. Mid-late 90s we had some of the best prices in the state. Not sure what changed.



Flying J is Conoco in Pasco, there are many Conoco stations here which are generally mid-pack to the higher end of the diesel prices in town, however Flying J is often much more expensive (usually highest in town). They're in a truck stop with one other station and since they're the only convenient fuel stop for truckers in the Tri-Cities they seem to happily team up to gouge them.



Vaughn

 

[RobNJ]

Great State of NJ around $3. 50 a gal. for Sunoco or Exxon :--)

 

[DocRhoads]

just hit $2. 99 and it has been steady for the weekend now cheaper then Gas and that is at $3. 69 for the cheap stuff :--)

 

[AndrewGray]

Its 2. 90 here in south central South Dakota. I would like to know where a person can find out where to purchase bio-diesel. I have tried on a google seach but no help. I agree its demand that drives the prices more than anything so why buy dino and maybe slip some bucks in the terrorists hands. We have acres and acres of fuel right here in the USA and the money will stay in the USA. Id rather pay a higher price for bio-diesel and keep the USA supported. We have a couple of fuel and gas carriers here that flat refuse to get in bio but have gotten in ethanol. But why should they ... they contracted this fuel for 1. 34 and now sell for 3. 12. Im in the wrong business ..... well maybe not. Ok I will get off my soap box but if we all buy bio even if only B2 we are less dependent on dino. Wish I could locate B20 or above close by. If anyone should know let me know. I got a big fuel tank I will load up.

 

[BNeathery]

$3. 09 to to $3. 15 in Utah County, Utah

 

[JCyrbok]

$2. 75 for regular #2 and B20 at the Meijers at Carpenter and Ellsworth road in Ypsilanti MI today.



J-

 

[LOtero]

Albuquerque NM is anywhere from 2. 89 to 3. 05 a gal

 

[sfelts]

Just went buy the gas station here. 3. 39 its gitting ugly :{

GALT CA

 

[DieselTim]

Make it yourself

Ok, if you guys are thru cryin :{ about the High Cost of fuel then check out these links and get off you chair and start makin a difference in you wallet. Oo.



www.atlantabiofuels.org

www.biodieselnow.com



See you there. Dieseltim

 

[jknaack]

3. 279 in sunny Yuccamucca ,Nv.