Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Industrial Injection. Not just a turbo shop.

[RonA]

I sent an 887 pump to Industrial Injection to have them bump up the fueling,install a 3k kit and balance. I am very happy with how it turned out. I had to play with the afc a bit (thanks Brad at Ponci's diesel for the mod information), but the idle and low speed manners are the best i have had. Top end power is good, but haven't dyno'd yet. Larger exhaust housing smoothed the power up a bit. The SPS 62 secondary turbo was working so well I decided to have them do the pump. Glad I did. Thank you Industrial Injection and Brad Ponci.



RonA

 

[WDixon27]

how many moneys? i may want my pump looked at not so much for the power increase but better running

 

[RonA]

I can pm you what i paid. My pump is an early model 215hp (887). I had them take it 420cc(everyone measures differently). My truck is just a plain daily driver. I'm guessing That I'm 480 to 500hp or so with the small (mach 1. 2) injectors. Very smooth and pleasant driving. I would recommend having it bumped if you are stock. I adds a little to cost, but you will like it.



Ron

 

[crawler]

Another pat on the back to the guys at II.



They built my 887 pump and I liked their work so much that I gathered up my pennies and got them to put together a 13mm Race Pump for me.



Can't wait for it to get here. Just waiting on the big brown truck to show up. Tick,tock,tick,tock.



Going by the flow numbers they gave me on my 887 (tuned, rack travel mods,4K), versus the numbers on my new pump (tuned, rack travel, 5K, 13mmB&Ps, etc... ) I think maybe my 95 is about to get a little crazy.



Thanks Brady for all the work on the Pump and Thanks Shane for the trick turbo work.



Sorry for the rambling, I just can't say enough about these guys.



Later,

Wes

 

[crawler]

By the way. As Ron mentioned every pump shop uses different standards to test pump output.



Industrial's numbers always seem to be lower than a few of the other shops. But the pumps perform great.



When you're looking at flow numbers on pumps it is tough to compare the flow numbers from one shop to another.



The only way you can do that is to know all of the specs of the test and test stand.



Later,

Wes

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

By the way, Industrial Injection will be at May Madness.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

By the way, Industrial Injection will be at May Madness.

And wouldn't you know it I can't even be there with them. Might be a good reason to meet up with them at lake Powell.



Jim

 

[BradyWilliams]

That's a BIG 10/4 there Jim. I just wanted to explain some of the flow number differences that you are talking about. We at II have a 25hp test bench which is very cool when you are making and running calibration on big pumps. Most fuel shops that make big pumps will have a 10hp test bench or maybe a 15hp test bench. The numbers that are quoted by a shop that has smaller test benches will be higher because they may not be able to run at full load which would be 4000rpm+ on a given stupid pump or big pump. The fuel delivery is higher at lower rpms and lower at higher rpms. This is a normal condition that is created by less fill time and less reaction time for some components in the pump. More charging pressure will over come some of that effect. So when we give you a delivery number at 4000-4800rpm and you compare it to a number that may have ran at 1200-1500rpm the result is different. We are learning to give you delivery numbers that are at lower rpm's so that you can make a better comparison. However full load is 50rpm before gov. breakaway and that is by normal standards, universal terminology. We are proud to help you guys and we thank you for your support. We will always do as much as we can to help you. Thanks, Brady

 

[crawler]

Well put Brady.



And thank you for the clarification on the difference between flow numbers.





Later,

Wes

 

[RonA]

One thing i would like to know is, at what point do you sacrifice smoothe running, for higher output. I have heard that if you push the output up too high, they will have a stutter at around 1200 rpm. My last pump did this. It makes it difficult to shift smoothly because the transition from throttle off to throttle on isn't smooth. That was why I opted to have mine set at 420cc. I wonder how high it can go before it starts to get rough? I was told it can be taken over 500cc. I guess the only way to find out would be to have them take it to max, and then drop down 25cc at a time untill it smooths out. Any ideas Brady?

 

[BradyWilliams]

A test stand does not react like a engine in situations like yours. But we can test equal delivery, gov. operation and anaroid movement. Because we can test big pumps as high as we determine we need, we can see what the rack does at higher speeds. You may have a senario were you don't have enough air at that speed to use the fuel that the pump is delivering. The lower speeds do get more fuel than high speed. Maybe a anaroid adjustment is a good idea. Thanks Brady

 

[RonA]

Yes, on a pump stand a motor drives the pump. On the truck the pump drives the motor. I'd have to install the pump on the truck after each incremental change to check. I'd be interested in trying.

 

[BradyWilliams]

We could make a very good guess at were to start but you know the story. Thanks