just installed big water Sep filter

[AH64ID]

7-10-10 and still on Pump, its down to 5/4 GPM so it needs to be changed. When New they Pump 7/8GPM.

That's pretty good, how many miles, gallons, or hours? Goes to show that modern fuel is pretty darn dry!

What do you use to look at GPM, do you have a flowscan?

The thing I like most about the Aqua-Zorb is that it's effectiveness isn't effected by being post-pump.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Can someone bring me a beer and hot dog i dont want to loose my place in this reality show #ad
Dont bring that FAT B***H from NJ she's such a pig

 

[AH64ID]

This can't be a reality show. . no hot chicks!

 

[BIGNASTY]

This can't be a reality show. . no hot chicks!

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SORRY THE BEST THAT THIS SITE WILL ALOW BUT ALLWAYS HOPE





YOU SHOULD SEE THE ORTHOPIDIC DOCTOR THATS GOING TO PUT IN MY KNEE. I TOLD HER SHE COULD PLAY DOCTOR ANYTIME SHE WANTS.

 

[TCDiesel]

Here's some pictures This confirms again 99% of the Time YOU don't need any other filter then the the Factory, If YOU get fuel that is contaminate with hard material or You suck up water pocket YOU NEED a Filter that STOPs contamination not ones that just filter.

 

[TCDiesel]

This filter was almost 14 months old and had 2,220. 3 gallons pumped, it was perfectly clean, the water material was some what swallon ,which was to be expected ( Always a verv very small amount of water present in retail Diesel fuel). I need to add I also remove the CP3 that I moodded in 2004 it had 130k and Now was rebuilt and resides in Alaska, it look like new and met ALL the Factory Internal Spec's.

On A side Not the New pump is 6. 7 modded to 40% over, For some unknown reason this NEW 6. 7 pump quited down the Engine, Only ME, Chris and Scott drive this truck all of us agreed the pump changed engine noise and runs smother, their seems to be NO Performance or Power loss.



After Pump was changed it started on the 3rd Crank, this is a good sign of perfectly working Injectors and Pump and correct R/I.



The only debris was form the material when cutting and My dirty fingers. if it would Not have been the slowing down GPM pumped this filter is good to go for another 14 months or when contaminated and it would plug shut or slow down.

 

[TCDiesel]

Look how dense the filtering material is, Keep in mind this material is synthetic Not Cheap paper. If You paste and copy look at all the Room the Cat filter leaves for material filtering. Between the 2 layers it was 1. 60" thick.

 

[AH64ID]

That's a 23um multi-pass filter, it's going to look clean as it's just a rock catcher in a CR system.

That filter has 309 sq in of media, my initial filter has 509 sq in of media. That is why it looks like there is more room between the media, the ridges are deeper to have more filtering surface (which in necessary on a single pass rating). /\/\/\/\/\/\ vs ^^^^^^^ The are between the surface media is the aqua-zorb materiel correct?

Again not doubting that the Zinga works well, but for contaminates it just doesn't have the ratings or specs... as a f/w separator well there is nothing that can touch it. What's nice about your life on that filter is that you didn't even find 7. 6 oz of water in those 14 months (only 2200 gallons pumped? or was that 2200 burned?)

But you really can't make comments about needing to STOP contaminates, not filter them when your filters aren't even designed for that in a single pass.

 

[KLauber]

That's a 23um multi-pass filter, it's going to look clean as it's just a rock catcher in a CR system.



That filter has 309 sq in of media, my initial filter has 509 sq in of media. That is why it looks like there is more room between the media, the ridges are deeper to have more filtering surface (which in necessary on a single pass rating). /\/\/\/\/\/\ vs ^^^^^^^ The are between the surface media is the aqua-zorb materiel correct?



Again not doubting that the Zinga works well, but for contaminates it just doesn't have the ratings or specs... as a f/w separator well there is nothing that can touch it. What's nice about your life on that filter is that you didn't even find 7. 6 oz of water in those 14 months (only 2200 gallons pumped? or was that 2200 burned?)



But you really can't make comments about needing to STOP contaminates, not filter them when your filters aren't even designed for that in a single pass.

The filter says 3 micron on it but its a multi-pass you say? How does that make sense. Doesn't all the liquid have to pass the through the media to make it out the exit? Confused... .

 

[TCDiesel]

2200 Gallons pumped... Ratings Are ratings. . lets See (PG) Parental Guidance, Hmm In Most Cases (PG) Pure Garbage. I have always Promised Half and double deliver, How many RATINGS are the MAX?. I support facts NOT ratings.



My Challenge is Still open... . I can see YOU are Willing to promote Cat filters,Mopar but NOT will to test to the stated Ratings. Lets dump some trash in Your Tank and find out. Otherwise its all Typed Hype, which is worthless,call me up and set the dates.

 

[AH64ID]

Ratings based on minimum standards. . they are good enough for Bosch, just not you!

Simple fact is filters I promote meet those minimum standards, filters you promote don't.

2200 gallons pumped isn't much use at all. Depending on your average speed that may only be 50-100 hours of use.

 

[AH64ID]

The filter says 3 micron on it but its a multi-pass you say? How does that make sense. Doesn't all the liquid have to pass the through the media to make it out the exit? Confused... .

Just like the FF5320 says 2um on it, but it's a 5um filter.

See the below spec sheet, 23um absolute, 21um at 95%, 5um at 50%. Zinga makes Hydraulic filters and uses ISO 16889, multi-pass ratings for hydraulic filters. They call it 3um nominal, but its a weak nominal as 50% is traditionally nominal at that's 5um.

Yes all the fuel passes thru the media, but the micron rating is based on more than one pass. Bosch/Dodge have made it clear that you need to meet 7um (Dodge) or 5um (Bosch) on the 1st pass, not subsequent passes. J1985 is the standard Dodge/Bosch wants.

http://www.zinga.com/zImages/SPINON_AQUAZORB.pdf

These are the reasons I have spent hours researching filters and can make black and white factual statements. . not opinions like others promote.

 

[TCDiesel]

Ratings based on minimum standards. . they are good enough for Bosch, just not you!



Simple fact is filters I promote meet those minimum standards, filters you promote don't.



2200 gallons pumped isn't much use at all. Depending on your average speed that may only be 50-100 hours of use.

Then Put up or Shut Up... ... . Or You are Just promoting Ratings NOT FACTS. You can use any filter of YOU Choosing (anyone) Again HOW Many times I have Mentioned Zinga is Just one of many,I don't care what filter YOU use.



Yep 2200 gallons is not Much ,But over 8 years 16000,00 gallon Pumped and 6 filters 130k and like New Injectors and Pump, "come on" You are entitle to Your Opinion, But that as far as it is, until YOU Prove YOUR Opinion as factual.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Ding ding

DING!!!! DING!!!!! in this corner weighing in at ALOT because of all the cold weather gear he has on because it's colder than a SNOWMAN'S BALL'S form BLAINE MN TC Diesel Oo. Oo. Oo.





AND







In this corner weighing in at a somewhat lower weight because it's only as cold as WITCHES TIT'S IN A BRASS BRA IN KUNA ID we have AH64ID Oo. Oo. Oo.



OK GENTELMEN PROTECT YOUR SELF AT ALL TIMES AND NO HITTING BELOW THE KNEE CAPS AND NO HITTING WITH YOUR CHOICE OF FUEL FILTER LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMBLE #@$%!

 

[BIGNASTY]

IM SORRY BUT THESE PAIN PILLS MAKE ME THINK STRANGE THINGS :-laf ILL BE BACK TO MY LOVEABLE SELF IN A FEW DAY'S #ad

 

[KLauber]

BIGNASTY... I hereby hit the "like" button for all of us watching in bemusement. This may be better than one of Harvey Barlow's flame wars on the Politics forum, only we are actually learning something from two knowledgeable members...

 

[TCDiesel]

AD set the bar knows more about this problem Then 99% of Owners,We are just looking at it form 2 different directions. Bottom line is NO Person on this forum R/R CR more then ME. . Just today I cannot fill the orders Until Next Year. . Leaky Pump time,fail injection component's etc. by the way I just spend 3 Days Putting Dodge Pumps Duals, filter Canister Etc, With New filtering Bypass System on 2008 GM LML. Removed all the GM Junk and the stupid Setup some heck installed Back IN Colorado.

 

[AH64ID]

Ratings are the only published FACTS we have, end of story. As I have said before they are to industrial standards, not to made up numbers (like you have assigned to the Zinga filters). . If they are good enough for Bosh/Cummins they they are good enough for me, especially when I exceed their minimums.

I keep mentioning Zinga because that's who you are telling us is the setup that will STOP everything. . even if Zinga doesn't agree with you! It's what you are posting pictures of, and what you are incorrectly quoting their ratings. . It's also funny that now you don't believe ratings when you have posted that Zinga has the only good ratings (which as we know was a false statement) in older posts. They don't meet what you want them to so now that the truth is out about them you say to ignore them.

You do seem to care what filters I run as you keep showing how the Zinga (again you brought them into the topic) is better. . but as I keep saying Zinga doesn't even agree with you.

For a f/w sep they are impossible to beat, but they don't really have a dog in single pass the filtration hunt. .

You keep telling us how large your bank account is, so build a test stand. . Use an old OEM pump, 2 filter heads a few gallons of contaminated diesel and test away. Put "x" amount of fuel thru a set of filters you think the ratings are wrong on, and your then run your preferred set of filters. One pass, and see what comes out... heck I may even build it when I remove my OE LP in the next few years. . but not anytime soon.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Round 1

END OF ROUND 1 OF THE 3 JUDGES IT WAS AH64ID UNAMIOUS DECISISON





ROUND 2 COMMING UP Oo. Oo.

 

[Prairie Dog]

I suspect is TC is just weary of perpetuating an argument and took the classy approach to just let the thread die.
Good points from everyone but for gawd sakes. . let it die!