Lifter Rod Off & Engine Knock

[Ozymandias]

Anyone who says taking this motor out is full out shiat. There are so many little connections to disconnect on the driver's side. Talk about a pita.

Should I take the fuel filter off and the trans cooler off? It's such a pain to get up in there

Just disconnect the SAE Connections, they are there for a reason. No need to tear all an everything apart.

At the factory they need just a couple minutes to drop in the power plant and install it.
The transmission goes in together with the Engine there.

So you must disconnect the two cooler lines at the heat exchanger. And be careful, always use two wrench. Don't try just to loosen the lines nut, you'd destroy the heat exchanger.

 

[Ozymandias]

By the way, the steel bar in the front of your Fan, body part.
You either have two cut it in half or spread apart the side "wings" to get it out of the way.
You dont want to lift the Engine over it.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Are you sure you want to lift out that 1200lbs Engine with that China crap?
I've the same at home but would never attempt to lift the Cummins with it.

Haha
It's rated at 2 tons. I figured out the brace arms. Taking a step back and cooling off really helps.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Just disconnect the SAE Connections, they are there for a reason. No need to tear all an everything apart.

At the factory they need just a couple minutes to drop in the power plant and install it.
The transmission goes in together with the Engine there.

So you must disconnect the two cooler lines at the heat exchanger. And be careful, always use two wrench. Don't try just to loosen the lines nut, you'd destroy the heat exchanger.

Yup I learned that the hard way today. I got the top line off but the bottom line would not budge. I eventually got it but twisted the line up. Heat exchanger is fine though

 

[Ozymandias]

Haha
It's rated at 2 tons. I figured out the brace arms. Taking a step back and cooling off really helps.

Just be careful, mine let go under load and it was just a 360 on it. It pushed the top seal at the hydraulic cylinder out. Not funny.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

By the way, the steel bar in the front of your Fan, body part.
You either have two cut it in half or spread apart the side "wings" to get it out of the way.
You dont want to lift the Engine over it.

I read that if you take the valve cover off and drop the oil pan after you lift it a few inches, it comes out fine. I'm not cutting anything

 

[Ozymandias]

Yup I learned that the hard way today. I got the top line off but the bottom line would not budge. I eventually got it but twisted the line up. Heat exchanger is fine though

Better do a pressure test on the heat exchanger once out of the vehicle, water an oil. Because if it leaks you'll flood the transmission with water and you know what that means.

 

[Ozymandias]

I read that if you take the valve cover off and drop the oil pan after you lift it a few inches, it comes out fine. I'm not cutting anything

To do this you would have to tilt the unit at the same time while lifting, quite a challenge.
I would cut that bar and screw it together afterwards, makes the life easier.
But its up to you.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Better do a pressure test on the heat exchanger once out of the vehicle, water an oil. Because if it leaks you'll flood the transmission with water and you know what that means.

This is a learning experience for me. Enjoy doing this stuff and learning about what each part does.

 

[Ozymandias]

Best help i can give you - always ask yourself - how did the Guys assemble it at the factory?

It must be fast and easy, that's how they build it.
And often that's also the way to take it apart.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Last issue before it gets yanked. I got the trans unbolted from the bell housing but now I need to remove the torque converter bolts. I have the inspection plate removed but don't have a barring tool. I guess you can spin the harmonic balancer somehow? Tried with 15mm ratchet but the beast is not moving. Any recommendations on how to spin it?

 

[DavidC]

Big screw driver and turn flywheel

 

[dieselshadow]

On the 12v it used to be a trick for some to use the alternator nut to turn the engine. This may still hold true.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Big screw driver and turn flywheel

Tried that. It's not moving

 

[DavidC]

Should move, I do it to mine to drain the TC. I do not know why it would not turn.

 

[Ozymandias]

You can also just pull the transmission and do the TC later when it's out.
Disassembling it that way is totally safe - but never try to assemble it so.

For the install you want to have the barring tool at hand. It's dirt cheap.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Big screw driver and turn flywheel

Would I do that from underneath by the inspection plate cover? I look but didn't really see a spot to rotate it with a screw driver

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Boom she's out. Had to drop oil pan and remove harmonic balancer still a puzzle to get it out

 

[DavidC]

Would I do that from underneath by the inspection plate cover? I look but didn't really see a spot to rotate it with a screw driver

Probably don't need this now but, I put the driver blade in a flywheel tooth and use the trans bell housing as a fulcrum point to turn the crank a little at a time then take another bite. It does go pretty well.

 

[Sneaklylilpetey]

Probably don't need this now but, I put the driver blade in a flywheel tooth and use the trans bell housing as a fulcrum point to turn the crank a little at a time then take another bite. It does go pretty well.

That's exactly what I did. Had the wife stand up top with a flashlight