Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Make it smoke in neutral

[24V-DSL]

I'm generally from the Less is More school.



The only smoke lovin' guy I know personally was a towel snapper in the high school locker room.

 

[Cory]

Im with ya 100%. Thats all that I wanted to do with my dodge was to blow the black smoke. So in my dodge I installed the #3705 Superchip Programmer and then plugged in the comp. With teh Superchip on High Performance, and the comp on 5, you can puke out a tremendous amout of unburnt diesel fuel. I also have stage 3 injectors from diesel dnamics. Good Luck. :-laf

 

[ProMac1K]

Maybe it's just the way the post was stated, but it sounds terrible as all hell! Does a desire like that necessitate spending money for a membership to this site? Get by cheaper and just inject raw fuel into your stack, if that's all you care about. Going to gain about as much performance by doing that as you are trying to make smoke by pumping "excess" fuel through the fuel system and the engine, and it will be cheaper. Best of both worlds!

 

[JGK]

Personally, I'm with SNOKING, SRadke, Hohn, and the others that agree with them.



RJPotts, pursuing you route will only support more animosity and regulations against diesels. You're not doing the members any service here. But if you're determined, do as TMaas says and just inject a bunch of fuel into the exhaust. Geez, what a waste.



-Jay

 

[Hohn]

Okay, i think it's time people got back to the basics and stopped attacking other peoples character on the basis of what they think is "cool", just because someone likes the look of a great big cloud of soot from a diesel pickup doesn't mean that they're an evil person bent on destroying the environment and those who are trying to preserve it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but check the character slurs at the front door - please.



From SNOKING:

"NO, this juvenile does not even want to drive down the road. "



From Hohn:

"Give it up and quit posing. "



It's not just from this post, but from other posts with people who are attacking other members (and non members) characters unfoundedly.



If i was an admin on this site, i would definitley get involved in this as it seems to be getting out of hand to me. It seems to me, if the main reason you are posting in reply to a thread is to try to "bash" someone, then you should probably not hit the submit button.



All things aside, everyone involved has a point, especially in this topic, and a right to discuss that point, the attacking is what is an issue here. Before i get any flaming replys from anyone, the answer is YES i read this entire thread front to back, every letter of every post, and im NOT missing the point.



Just my whoppin . 02



/rant off



Jake

Character slurs? Hardly. I will ALWAYS reserve the right to criticize someone's judgment-- just as THEY should always reserve the right to criticize MINE. It's only fair-- you have to take it if you're gong to give it.



Character and judgment are not the same thing, imo. Though I tend to think that someone with good character usually exercises good judgment.



So let's deal with this ridiculous assertion that just because someone's idea of "cool" is different, we aren't allowed to render judgment on that position. I don't buy the BS that "all opinions are valid", because it's simply not true. An opinion backed up with logic and evidence is MUCH more valid.



There are some kids in my neighborhood that think it's cool to spray paint graffiti on people's brand new wood fencing. But the law says otherwise-- the law says it's not cool, it's CRIMINAL. Now, is the LAW being too harsh on these kids, just because they have a different idea of what "cool" is? Is it being too "judgmental"??



Maybe we should call in a moderator to help out the poor kids who are being victimized here?



"Oh," you say, "it's different, as these kids were breaking the law. Hardly the same as making your truck intentionally smoke. "



Really? Perhaps you should bone up on the EPA fines for tampering with emission systems on vehicles?



So, since we are all adults, and mature and can handle a little criticism without :{ :{ , there's no need to bawl to a moderator when someone gets their feelings hurt.



If I come on here an post about how I want to do something that shows poor judgment and/or immaturity, I have no reasonable expectation of avoiding criticism.



See my post entitled "Guys, I want to swap out my CTD for a smogged 318-- what do YOU think"?



Or my post entitled "I knocked up 4 different women and now can't afford the child support after maxing out my credit cards for BOMB money-- what should I do?"





Actions have consequences. If you aren't prepared for the consequences, don't do the action.



Posting in a public forum is an action that MAY expose you to criticism. Be prepared.



I'm fully expecting the criticism of others to follow this post. If I am wrong, make your case. Nothing wrong with friendly debate, as it makes us ALL sharper if we approach it properly.

 

[PC12Driver]

Wow, 25 replys and no one has given any tips to aid in the smoking. I'll help!



Put the factory airbox back on and soak the filter with used motor oil. The air restriction should give plenty of smoke. Fill the remaining void in the airbox with oily rags for more effect.



Clamp one of the intercooler boots mostly closed. A bonus would be to use something adjustable like a c-clamp, that way you could go from mild to wild with the twist of a screw!



Remove the turbo. This would also be a weight savings for improved performance!



For a different approach, TMaas' idea of injecting raw fuel into the exhaust would also produce smoke, but it would be white. That would simulate really low compression and a really hot motor like the sled pullers have! Crack an injector line to get a funny idle for that extra-cool "my truck is barely streetable" effect (just bring a fire extinguisher along).



Ahh, yes. Applying any or all of the above would be a good start to simulate a poorly tuned... er. . I mean really powerful truck.





... Off to enjoy my 460 smoke-free horsepower...

 

[darkhorse]

WOW! I didn't expect such controversy on this thread. I'm pleased to see the "no smoking" crowd chime in but I really thought RJPotts was being sarcastic.

 

[SRadke]

Put the factory airbox back on and soak the filter with used motor oil. The air restriction should give plenty of smoke. Fill the remaining void in the airbox with oily rags for more effect.

Here's your sign! Lol



-Scott

 

[Tcolesanti]

Holy crap, its not like RJPotts said he was going to run around with the comp on kill smoking everybody out that he comes across. Give the guy a break, maybe his post was worded a little rough, but I think his intentions are good.

-Tom

 

[RJPotts]

I'm was impressed to see that this post had so many replies, until I opened it and started reading. Maybe I shouldn't have made such a braod statement about what I wanted FOR THE TIME BEING, since many people have read too much into this. I'm not out to pollute the environment and soot all over people, and if I do, sorry. I do my best to keep it clean going down the road and I have no intention of hammering down on it everywhere or sitting at every red light I come to and leaving a cloud of smoke for everyone else to drive through.

I like smoke, I dont' mind driving through other people's smoke. If I want to smoke I'm going to and I'm not going to do it all the time, or even often. It will be more of a "dragstrip antic", but I don't feel I should have to defend myself on what I want to do on TDR, wouldn't it be easier and leave less ruffled feathers to ASK WHY I would want to do something like this instead of jumping down my throat because you question my reasoning.

SORRY, WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN

-R. J.

 

[SnoKing]

Holy crap, its not like RJPotts said he was going to run around with the comp on kill smoking everybody out that he comes across. Give the guy a break, maybe his post was worded a little rough, but I think his intentions are good.

-Tom

I will stick to my contension that making smoke does not send a positive message to the general public and very few people would relate that to a powerful truck. Take my the little quiz, over 90 percent of the general public would answer A-D. Answer E only applies to a subset of even the diesel owners, as we have seen by a lot of post to this thread that are condemning such acts.



Maybe we need RJRotts to come back and clarify himself, but I thought he said it in his original post. He relates smoking even at a stop to something neat and/or powerful. "ON Edit. He posted his reply just ahead of me, while I was typing!"



At anyrate, minus name calling it is interesting to see the different views, that is why I poured the original "fuel" on it so the speak. SNOKING

 

[Timbeaux38]

This thread makes one wonder why alot of the "old guard" was talking about the current state of the TDR... ... . HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

[SnoKing]

This thread makes one wonder why alot of the "old guard" was talking about the current state of the TDR... ... . HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

"wonder" or "understand"? SNOKING

 

[RJPotts]

I completely understand and respect criticism, I expected it, even hoped for it. What I didn't expect was ridicule, and there was a lot of it and some of it was uncalled for. That is the LAST thing I had expected from the people on TDR.

Also, I should have been more clear as to what I was wanting to do and maybe shouldn't have used the smoke=power/speed in my original post as it is not necessarily true.

-I don't want to be the sole contributor to the "low level smog" that diesels are responsible for.

-I don't want to **** people off.

-I want to enjoy my truck the way I want to.

-I want CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

etc.....

I hope I'm clearer now than in my original post. Sorry to anyone that was offended by this thread or my original post that was obviously not my intention.

-R. J.

 

[Timbeaux38]

"wonder" or "understand"? SNOKING

Guess that depends which side of the fence you are on... ... . The problem that I see is that instead of not replying to the thread and letting it die so that RJ is led to believe that Some members on TDR prefer not to smoke, or even asking him why he wants so smoke, a whole smokers v. non-smokers thread has erupted..... seems kinda counterproductive since neither side will convince the other to change their ways, and will probably hurt some feelings along the way. I understand the view that excessive smoke does not look "cool" to those who dont know. I also understand that some enjoy making clouds of it. Just like some prefer to wear their pants around ther chest and others around their buttocks. I bet the pants guys wont ever get it figured out either... My point is that it is crap like this that makes people want to leave the site , no matter what side of the issue you are on..... So now that we have all made our point, are we gonna continue the ******* match or not..... I think we should stop... . urine stinks more than diesel smoke. :-laf

 

[joaker]

I hear that really advanced timing on your cam will lay out a ridiculous amount of soot..... not that I would do that personally... . heck, I put too big of injectors in and am changing them so as to hopefully achieve "clean power", hopefully it is possible... . Just be nice to be able to actually lay down some power without a cloud, though being able to smoke from time to time is nice too, nobody on here can say they have'nt gotten a smile on their face when they laid their first black cloud out, but when it smokes all the time, like mine presently does, it really loses it's novelty..... lol Hope the smaller sticks will help... ... All that one has to remember, smoker or not, that we as diesel owners are representing something bigger than just ourselves, and should hopefully keep the smoke to those "need to smoke" kind of situations... ... take care.

 

[RJPotts]

Sounds good to me. I would never leave TDR, and there are no hurt feelings. This site has been more helpful to me in making up my mind and helping with problems than I could have ever expected. I also understand that not everyone will be happy, and what one thinks is good others will not. I like the pants analogy, it works well. And to the defense of the "clean truck" group who think smoke is awful, I would much rather have a truck that doesn't smoke at all than one that does nothing but smoke. But if I want to make a cloud in the parking lot at work, or staging at the dragstrip for "run what ya' brung night" I will. And I like to see a little puff from the tailpipe when I'm accelerating, I don't think thats a crime... at least not a serious one.

Like I said before, sorry.

-R. J.

 

[DavidTD]

RJ, when are you putting the stacks on?

 

[CLAYTON]

Cleaner air is causing global warming

Read this thread from another forum here at TDR LINK



Smoking is just another way I'm try to help out :-laf



Smoking on demand is great for when somebody is tailgating you



"I can quite when ever I want to. I don't have to smoke" Alright alright maybe I'm addicted. Put me down for "E"

 

[caleb c.]

Wow,this thread got off of track fast. He was asking a simple question and got answers for a whole other topic that should start another thread. If you don't like smoke or think its wrong or whatever don't read it. But don't shoot the guy down for asking. If he wants his truck to smoke go for it. I think its great at the right times. But I don't do it to everybody. Anybody agree with this?As for the question-I think its kinda hard to get a 24v truck to smoke on a pop idle. They won't provide enough fuel without a load to smoke muck from what I gather. BTW,not trying to offend anyone and no offence taken by anybody,just my opinion.