2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Much larger Brakes - which ones with 19.5 inch holes...

[hammersley]

OK - I'm really feed up with poor - I mean Poor - tire mileage, and tires are now very $$$$$$$$$$. I'm thinking of going with these 265/70R19. 5, Traction Tires... Rickson Wheel Manufacturing



NOW I understand that the 3rd generation has some larger brakes, and that there are Big Brakes for these trucks... My ????



Can you swap these over with a larger caliper etc??? Does anybody have a conversion kit... . and since the 3rd generation uses 17" Hole they can use a larger brake----with 19. 5 the hole is even larger... ...

 

[fest3er]

Before you go hog wild, you might want to consider one other thing, if you haven't already.

I had 19. 5s on my 2500 from 2000 to late last year. I got 100K from the first set, 40K from the second set and maybe 50K+ from the third set. The second two sets just plain wore badly. One of the Hankooks was showing steel belt all the way around, so I put the spare TY303 on; when I got home, another Hankook was showing steel belt. Guess I let 'em get a little too skinny. On the way home from PA after having some work done, the truck seems to steer, mmm, more predictably.


Because cash was in short supply, I replaced the Hankooks with Laredo commercial tires and brought he truck in for an alignment, thinking it would be way off. Nope. It was dead nuts on; no adjustment was needed. One tie rod end is barely loose. Everything else seems OK.

So what changed? The (rackin' frackin') front trailing arm bushings. At 260K miles, they were completely wore out. I should've replaced them every 100K. They sure seemed solid, but that rubber was simply wore out.

So if you have over 120K on your suspension bushings, you might want to replace them and verify the rest of the suspension before you put new tires on the truck.

 

[EBung]

All you need is 3rd gen caliper adapters,rotors and pads and you have 3rd gen brakes.

 

[jelag]

I run 225/70?/19. 5 on all my trucks... . I've got at least a million miles experience doing this with steel wheels and many trucks... . I started with a F550...

We run new Bridgestone or Michelin on the front and Bandag re-treads on the rear... and have never gotten less than 100K on the fronts and 90K on the rears... The fronts are rib steer tires and the rear recaps are the all season tire used by UPS here in Spokane... .

We ran the F550 for 500K miles, and its gone the other trucks have various mileage with the lowest, the 5500 at 110K miles... .

We currently have 4 trucks doing this... 04 3500 dually, 04. 5 SRW, 05 3500 Dually and 08 5500. . What ever the stock tire that was on the F550 and the 5500 is the tire size we use...

We've never had a blow out, and I can't remember a road hazard but some flats that were repaired...

I can't imagine a 265 on a dually but surly on a SRW 2500 or 3500...

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

This thread on NW Bombers might help ya 3rd gen front brakes on 2nd gen

If going through a brake conversion I'd do 09+ brakes as they went to a larger rotor starting 2009

 

[hammersley]

Wow....how hard is to upgrade to the 09 Stuff.....

This thread on NW Bombers might help ya 3rd gen front brakes on 2nd gen



If going through a brake conversion I'd do 09+ brakes as they went to a larger rotor starting 2009

I noticed this from a Dodge PR...



The braking system has been improved for better stopping power, with 2 percent larger front (360 mm) and rear (358 mm) brake rotors. Front brake calipers are 7 percent larger, with twin 60 mm pistons for grip. Brake pads are also 14 percent thicker (12. 5 mm) and have a 77 percent larger surface area (99 square cm).



Do you think these roters and calipers would Bolt Directly up to my Dana 60 Front End? I assume the existing Master Cylinder would be OK... .

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I wouldn't know for sure Hammersly, but since I haven't heard of any significant suspension redesigns since the introduction of the 3rd Gen truck I would think they would work.