New for '06..no more high idle or pinion factor changes

[TowPro]

Does the automatic cold high idle and the real cold drop 3 cylenders idle still work on an 06 6 speed? I had to get it turned on in my 02,

 

[nickleinonen]

the automatic high idle works on all the 3rd gen engines when it is real cold outside, no matter what transmissions is on it. i don't think the 3rd gen's have the 3 cylinder idling when real cold though

 

[Tomeygun]

the automatic high idle works on all the 3rd gen engines when it is real cold outside, no matter what transmissions is on it. i don't think the 3rd gen's have the 3 cylinder idling when real cold though

Sometimes mine would not kick into high idle when I started it with my foot on the brake... -- But if I use the E-brake and start with just pushing in clutch, it would start and head right to 1000 rpm

 

[RustyJC]

Sometimes mine would not kick into high idle when I started it with my foot on the brake... -- But if I use the E-brake and start with just pushing in clutch, it would start and head right to 1000 rpm

Gosh, this sounds like one of those "you have to hold your mouth just right" deals. :-laf :-laf



Rusty

 

[Tomeygun]

First thing tomorrow I will try it on a stock truck I have here... .

Cause I know Teaton's works!

Bad news, our $11,000 "Starscan" tool is out for repair, They sent us a mini-starscan that has to be within 50 feet of the main tech-computer, So I cant test this on a stock truck until later today (when the techs are gone)



But I know I can get it to high idle with cruise buttons... ... .

 

[TFucili]

But I know I can get it to high idle with cruise buttons... ... .

How, on an '05?????

 

[Tomeygun]

How, on an '05?????

Through the use of a Dealer DRB tool - just turn option on...

 

[TFucili]

Through the use of a Dealer DRB tool - just turn option on...

Is it referred to as high idle? The tech knew of no such thing

I have an automatic, if that has any bearing.

 

[Bob4x4]

Ok... ... . I just enabled another 06 hi idle feature. It is exactly as before. With the star scan the menues are slightly different than the drb as are the electronics of the truck,no biggie. Go into the pcm (now called on the star scan,previously ecm)and enable the hi idle. Any body that has ever used the starscan should be able to do it. As far as the cost... ... ... somebody has to pay for that starscan



Bob

 

[Steve Hurst]

High Idle??

I had never heard of any "high idle" feature b4. I own a 2005 3500 Laramie w/6 speed. I followed instructions to turn on cruise control, hit the "set" button, then hold down "accel" button to reach desired higher idle speed. Didn't work!



Does some code, or bit have to be set in the ECU??



Thanks for any info.

 

[mberry]

I did read that the brake shuts off when coolant reaches 170 *F. That is plenty warm. I just don't care for the idea of that low idle warm up. I fear it will eventually cause problem due to unburned fuel. I suppose the brake takes care of that by providing some load to create the heat needed.

BHolm please tell me you're kidding. How many 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen trucks have been hurt by that "low idle warm up" that don't have an exhaust brake to help get the engine warm?



How many of your truck have been hurt this way? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you in any way. I'm trying to throw a little common sense into your paranioa.

 

[BHolm]

My paranoia stems from purchasing a new Mack truck a few years ago. I was specifically warned by the dealer that Mack can tell if the truck spends lots of time at low idle and they have and will deny warranty claims if a turbo fails due to this "excessive" idle time. It was explained to me that unburned fuel can lead to varnish deposits that will eventually interfere with the tight tolerances built into the newer generation of components. Sounded plausible to me, still does. I have never had a problem but I make it a point to limit idle time on all the diesel trucks I own from the big ones to the little ones

 

[BHolm]

Ok... ... . I just enabled another 06 hi idle feature. It is exactly as before. With the star scan the menues are slightly different than the drb as are the electronics of the truck,no biggie. Go into the pcm (now called on the star scan,previously ecm)and enable the hi idle. Any body that has ever used the starscan should be able to do it. As far as the cost... ... ... somebody has to pay for that starscan



Bob

I used to love this dealer. I now loathe making trips to the service dept. The service manager is a MORON, yep... all capitals for him. He tried to tell me that my new truck has the magical ability to change the pinion factor, get this... all by itself. Of course he couldn't explain why my speedo is still wrong and pretty much stuck to his story. The wheels speed sensors can tell the wheels are turning different speeds... . now that is impressive technology I am still open to hear what the procedure might be to alter the speedo reading for larger tires.



Now I find out that there are at least two '06 trucks that have had the high idle control via cruise control buttons enabled. The service manager, my buddy now, told me it was enabled. I took him to the truck, started it, turned on the cruise, pressed set and wala..... nothing happened.



Thanks for trying one Bob, can you confirm that you could set and control idle with the cruise buttons? My dealer is claiming that it is on but I am under the impression they are talking about the automatic high idle feature present in all third gens.



Two emails with DC CS have left me cold, no help at all. About what I expected though.

 

[Bob4x4]

I used to love this dealer. I now loathe making trips to the service dept. The service manager is a MORON, yep... all capitals for him. He tried to tell me that my new truck has the magical ability to change the pinion factor, get this... all by itself. Of course he couldn't explain why my speedo is still wrong and pretty much stuck to his story. The wheels speed sensors can tell the wheels are turning different speeds... . now that is impressive technology I am still open to hear what the procedure might be to alter the speedo reading for larger tires.



Now I find out that there are at least two '06 trucks that have had the high idle control via cruise control buttons enabled. The service manager, my buddy now, told me it was enabled. I took him to the truck, started it, turned on the cruise, pressed set and wala..... nothing happened.



Thanks for trying one Bob, can you confirm that you could set and control idle with the cruise buttons? My dealer is claiming that it is on but I am under the impression they are talking about the automatic high idle feature present in all third gens.



Two emails with DC CS have left me cold, no help at all. About what I expected though.

Yes the cruise buttons do the job..... I have done others but we have updates on the star scan fairly often,they give and take features. Ask your deale4r if their star scan is at version 6. 03. That has the high idle enable in it.



Bob

 

[rjones]

Unless I over looked something this Hi idle feature is on the 2004 trucks or just 04. 5 and up?

 

[Tomeygun]

Yes the cruise buttons do the job..... I have done others but we have updates on the star scan fairly often,they give and take features. Ask your deale4r if their star scan is at version 6. 03. That has the high idle enable in it.



Bob

Thanks bob - Atleast now we know its there. Just maybe some dealers need an update on thier starscan to do it... .



TDR kills another problem once again!!!



Rjones - Only 04. 5 autos and up can get this cruise button high idle

 

[amsoilman]

Ok... ... . I just enabled another 06 hi idle feature. It is exactly as before. With the star scan the menues are slightly different than the drb as are the electronics of the truck,no biggie. Go into the pcm (now called on the star scan,previously ecm)and enable the hi idle. Any body that has ever used the starscan should be able to do it. As far as the cost... ... ... somebody has to pay for that starscan



Bob

All well and good Bob, but does the "Exhaust Brake" work with the high Idle on? That was one of the questions here.





Wayne

amsoilman

 

[Tomeygun]

All well and good Bob, but does the "Exhaust Brake" work with the high Idle on? That was one of the questions here.

Wayne

amsoilman

The truck I sold DID NOT allow high idle via cruise control while exh brake was engaged... .



I dont think it will allow it, Seems dumb to me, I think they would work great together!

 

[BHolm]

Thanks for the GREAT info Bob! Customer service continues to give me the run around big time. It is probably best I have used email with them. Somebody on the other end of the phone sure would be getting an earful over this foolishness.



I will check with my dealer and verify the version on their star scan tool.



My next project, since we seem to have the high idle under control, is to adjust for the tire size. Maybe I am taking the wrong tact with CS on this one. Maybe I should suggest they correct for the tires size because if they don't I will have roughly 1100 extra miles of warranty coverage for free Maybe I should go to the 315 tires :-laf

 

[TEaton]

Tom,

You enabled the high idle feature on my truck but I was under the impression it was for cold weather. . Outside temp, air intake temp, coolant temp, truck automatically revs to 1500 rpms. I don't remember if you showed me the cruise control high idle before or after you enable it with the Starscan. Maybe it has to be enabled before either will work???????

Troy