NO WAIT TO START/NO FUEL/NO CRANKY

[GAmes]

Only. $169.95 on a fixed income wow Geno got hit going on.

Me wrong business

It is a tool, one that is worth much more than it's cost. Or are you working with two screwdrivers, a pair of pliers and a crescent wrench?

 

[moreepms]

It is a tool, one that is worth much more than it's cost. Or are you working with two screwdrivers, a pair of pliers and a crescent wrench?

Yes you are correct. This item will be addded to my wish list. My Dodge Ram budget for this month has already exceeded the budget.

Wish list

PCM REBUILD
ECM REBUILD

TPS ISON ITS WAY I also know I am throwing money at a ghost problem

During oil leak repair

I bought new oil pan n gasket (old one damaged)
New tappet cover gasket
Vacuum pump rebuild kit
TORK tool
Cam shaft position switch

Truck was running great prior to gasket job

ALL THE ABOVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WORK all parts total $700
Labor 24 hours I WAS MECHANIC

I was cautious careful very clean professional job done perfectly.

VP 44 and ECM replaced 2. Years ago all done with 2 screw driver an crescent wrench.

LOVE MY DODGE THOUGH however need to create a go fun my dodge account

Considering putting 12 valve in it. Eliminate computers

 

[BoeingDiesel]

Yes you are correct. This item will be addded to my wish list. My Dodge Ram budget for this month has already exceeded the budget.

Wish list

PCM REBUILD
ECM REBUILD

TPS ISON ITS WAY I also know I am throwing money at a ghost problem

During oil leak repair

I bought new oil pan n gasket (old one damaged)
New tappet cover gasket
Vacuum pump rebuild kit
TORK tool
Cam shaft position switch

Truck was running great prior to gasket job

ALL THE ABOVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WORK all parts total $700
Labor 24 hours I WAS MECHANIC

I was cautious careful very clean professional job done perfectly.

VP 44 and ECM replaced 2. Years ago all done with 2 screw driver an crescent wrench.

LOVE MY DODGE THOUGH however need to create a go fun my dodge account

Considering putting 12 valve in it. Eliminate computers

You are a "Better man than me Gunga Din" 'Kippling'

 

[Timd32]

So you figured something out and your truck now works?

Anyone ever try one of these, says 340 sold, seller has a good rating...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-RAM-...:Dodge&hash=item3aabdb8633:g:70cAAOSw34FVGnoP

 

[moreepms]

SOME UPDATE
Bypassed ecm and pcm, hot wired VP 44
Hot Wired Fuel Pump

Primed fuel System, engine runs great, still dont know if TPS is answer, however less expensive opyion. TPS will or should arrive on Monday, if this does not correct WAIT TO START ISSUE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ECM WILL BE NEXT GO TO, UNLESS I CAN BE CONVINCED OTHER WISE

PLEASE START CONVINCING ME

 

[moreepms]

So you figured something out and your truck now works?

Anyone ever try one of these, says 340 sold, seller has a good rating...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-RAM-1999-2003-Service-Repair-Workshop-Manual-1500-2500-3500-CD/251991393843?fits=Model:Ram+2500|Makeodge&hash=item3aabdb8633:g:70cAAOSw34FVGnoP

NOPE, READ MOST RECENT POST

 

[Timd32]

I'm not even sure I understand the problem.

I fully understand not cranking the VP44 to death. The title says "no cranky" so does it crank and not start.

Buy that manual for 9.99 off ebay and follow the trouble shooting tree, you can get a cheap like 19.99 volt meter (i dare to say a $9 analog meter from Radio Shack but they are all gone now) and check the TPS before you swap more parts, especially if you can hot wire the thing to run.

My inital guess was you killed something or loosened a connector moving stuff out of the way with power on. Or you knocked a ground loose.

Recheck your steps as you most likely will find a simple answer vs like hunderds of dollars of parts that were good when you started.

Did you hear any odd electrical issues moving the stuff around.

Not sure keeping the batteries connected was the best route and jumping out all this stuff can't be good for most things. Thats usually like step 1 on most items.

 

[moreepms]

I'm not even sure I understand the problem.

I fully understand not cranking the VP44 to death. The title says "no cranky" so does it crank and not start.

Buy that manual for 9.99 off ebay and follow the trouble shooting tree, you can get a cheap like 19.99 volt meter (i dare to say a $9 analog meter from Radio Shack but they are all gone now) and check the TPS before you swap more parts, especially if you can hot wire the thing to run.

My inital guess was you killed something or loosened a connector moving stuff out of the way with power on. Or you knocked a ground loose.

Recheck your steps as you most likely will find a simple answer vs like hunderds of dollars of parts that were good when you started.

Did you hear any odd electrical issues moving the stuff around.

Not sure keeping the batteries connected was the best route and jumping out all this stuff can't be good for most things. Thats usually like step 1 on most items.

Agreed truck cranks but no start. No wait to start light. I have a dodge manual. Today I by passed ECM hot wired Vp 44, hot wired secondary fuel pump primed it up an it started right up.

Salvage yard VP 44 plug, put hot wire in no 1 pin ground in no 2 pin connect to Vp 44 hear a small click in VP 44.

I installed secondary inline fuel pump years ago with two way plug. Built pig tail clamp on battery

Got fuel to Vp 44 connected pig tail to salvage plug that plugs into Vp 44, bled air it started right up. SO ECM OR PCM

ON OF 3 times code on odometer P0123 and P1694

 

[moreepms]

I'm not even sure I understand the problem.

I fully understand not cranking the VP44 to death. The title says "no cranky" so does it crank and not start.

Buy that manual for 9.99 off ebay and follow the trouble shooting tree, you can get a cheap like 19.99 volt meter (i dare to say a $9 analog meter from Radio Shack but they are all gone now) and check the TPS before you swap more parts, especially if you can hot wire the thing to run.

My inital guess was you killed something or loosened a connector moving stuff out of the way with power on. Or you knocked a ground loose.

Recheck your steps as you most likely will find a simple answer vs like hunderds of dollars of parts that were good when you started.

Did you hear any odd electrical issues moving the stuff around.

Not sure keeping the batteries connected was the best route and jumping out all this stuff can't be good for most things. Thats usually like step 1 on most items.

I TOTALLY AGREE LEAVING BATTERY CONNECTED WAS A BAD IDEAL. I have back tracked entire process 4 times. Found nothing. There was no ground wire on ECM HOWEVER I RAN A GROUND DIRECTLY FRIM BATTERY TO ECM

NOTHING. STILL NO WAIT TO START

During process never got near pcm. But did remove ECM.

 

[Timd32]

There is some good info here....... it gives a simpler view of the ECM and the inputs, but you should try to use your FSM to check as some stuff changed, like the cam position is much more functional for your year vs earlier models.

http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/ECM/index.htm

Code P0123 looks like a APPS high voltage code code. Do you remember messing with that?

Here is a simple reset process video for that, says disconnect the battery for 10-15min...




P1693 says you have a code in ECM or PCM, But that could be a common code set when there is a common failue like Don said above suspect PCM. And he wanted to see if you could communicate to the PCM and ECM outside of the key on test.

I'm still leaning towards where you were working and going back over your connections, unless you know something bad happened and you fried something, which we all have done, not sure you will figure this out just by swapping parts out, besides just being way too expensive,

You will need to verify some of the power and grounds to the ecm, looks like there are 2 each on that ECM.

Try that reset thing and see if the P0123 clears?

 

[Timd32]

https://mopar1973man.com/cummins/ar...0123-apps-sensor-signal-voltage-too-high-r43/

 

[moreepms]

This article sent by timid33 about mopar man has a wealth of information. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESEARCH

Some where I saw a you tube about setting correct voltage on APPS aka TPS I am confused about where to put the positive or red prong to get voltage reading.

Can anyone please clarify this exact location for me. Electrical is my WEAKNESS

 

[moreepms]

There is some good info here....... it gives a simpler view of the ECM and the inputs, but you should try to use your FSM to check as some stuff changed, like the cam position is much more functional for your year vs earlier models.

http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/ECM/index.htm

Code P0123 looks like a APPS high voltage code code. Do you remember messing with that?

Here is a simple reset process video for that, says disconnect the battery for 10-15min...




P1693 says you have a code in ECM or PCM, But that could be a common code set when there is a common failue like Don said above suspect PCM. And he wanted to see if you could communicate to the PCM and ECM outside of the key on test.

I'm still leaning towards where you were working and going back over your connections, unless you know something bad happened and you fried something, which we all have done, not sure you will figure this out just by swapping parts out, besides just being way too expensive,

You will need to verify some of the power and grounds to the ecm, looks like there are 2 each on that ECM.

Try that reset thing and see if the P0123 clears?

Concerning back tracking the only thing I did not do is underneathbottom bolt of ECM is a high wiring harness is one bolt that secured wiring harness to block. I removed that one bolt to allow easier access to bottom ECM bolt. So when wait to star failed I decided to not in stall bolt until I find ECM is not the problem.

I plan to install bolt today.

 

[moreepms]

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[moreepms]

DURING ALL OF THIS GREAT COMMUNICATION i discovered a GREAT REASON MY CRUISE CONTROL DOES NOT WORK..3 YEARS AGO I HAD NY VP 44 AND ECM REPLACE IN A SHOP

My cruise has not worked since, i just discovered the pull cabel is not connected

1. i cannot even find THE CABLE nor the CONTROL MODULE
2. IF someone would be so kind and could/would provide photos of control module OF THE EXACT MOUNTED LOCATION ON YOUR VEHICLE

I THINK MINE HAS BEEN STOLEN, REMOVED FOR GOT TO BE RE INSTALLED OR ALL THE ABOVE

SHOP SAID ECM IS WHY MY CRUISE IS NOT WORKING, AN I BOUGHT IT UNNTIL NOW

 

[GAmes]

All the more reason to get a manual. The ECM does not controll cruise, the PCM does. Control module is under the driver's side battery.

 

[BigPapa]

My inital guess was you killed something or loosened a connector moving stuff out of the way with power on. Or you knocked a ground loose.

Recheck your steps as you most likely will find a simple answer vs like hunderds of dollars of parts that were good when you started.

I agree with Tim, if it was running perfectly before, 99% probability you’ve left something off or loose. You’re cruise control is a prime example. (On a side note, I have NEVER heard of someone having their cruise control stolen...) I definitely would not start throwing parts at it, especially if your budget is as tight as you suggest.

-Scott

 

[moreepms]

All the more reason to get a manual. The ECM does not controll cruise, the PCM does. Control module is under the driver's side battery.

Geno Manual is FIRST ON MY LIST for next pay day. Which is on the 3rd of each month due to SSID 65 y o an on SSI

HOWEVER I DID ORDER THE DVD FOR 9.99 on eBay just today

You are sharp cookie

Thank you so much for all your help.

 

[moreepms]

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[DavidC]

HOW DO I EDIT MY PROFILE

Paying member ?. Usually being a paying member it say's TDR member in the avatar. If you did not cough up the $35.00 your signature among other things do not show up.