NV4500 Gear Lube

[Don M]

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Don~

 

[Hammer]

A Tribute to the POET

Well lets see here now if I got this correct,,Seems like my mechanical knowledge was questioned as far as never repairing a NV4500,so with no hard postable data like you seek,guess I can not argue that,,MMMM,don't like my REAL world tests that have no data that back it up(i. e. what we have learned from seasons of racing teardowns) thats your deal,belief is in the eyes of the person(me) who did the teardowns all those years,,Guess since I did not keep you two guys a photo library of what we saw and learned you will never understand,,Hard data and facts,lets see here,since no photo's were ever taken so you can believe what we say,no amount of explaining to you will ever make you understand what I have seen and which oils DID not stand up to the rigors of CONSTANT high hp and torque applications,,Said it before and I'll say it again,it does not matter what we say or do,post or not post,your going to dispute it,,Believe what you want,in the years of using "Snakeoil"oops,I mean" Amsoil",it has never left me down and always has performed flawlessly,,Use what you want,I am not a dealer just a happy customer,,I also agree the added capacity,whether you like who made the product or not,is a definate plus(kinda makes me wonder that if Don would add a deeper trans pan to an automatic for added capacity and cooling if he owned one,so why not a cooler and capacity for a stick) in the longevity of our NV's especially those BOMBed,,Two last things and I'm done here,,Don you have asked for and been given opinions and all you do is dispute the facts we have seen or done,makes me wonder what your motive is here,you sure your not on Castrol or DC's payroll,,And,don't you feel like a kid with all the name games and your poor attempt at poetry??

 

[radixr]

Poet and don't know it?

Hammer,



If Don was thinking about applying for the job of Poet Laureate of the United States, I think we both would advise him not to give up his day job until he has an acceptance in hand!

 

[mikepvg]

1) The "Oil Article" regarding the NV4500 was NOT written by Joe Donnelly. It was written by Mike Nowicki.



2) Joe D wrote the follow up article pertaining to HORSEPOWER DRAG.



3) With all the great FACTUAL info on oils in the archives, I see none of it got posted here. You call this post an oil DISCUSSION?



4) How does this type of "discussion" (And I use this term loosely) help educate the NEW GUY on oil?



5) Did anyone even read the article?



I see the hostility factor has only exacerbated itself here on the TDR





Mike

 

[Sled Puller]

Mike,

Since you are such a factual guy, explain to me why you did not contact Amsoil and let them explain why their lube was ok in this application?

Especially after your own poll indicated the Amsoil was being used by a lot of TDR members.



Instead, you seemed to look under rocks to find "experts" from other oil companies, for reasons why to use the Castrol.



Gene

 

['956Wheel]

The snakeoil milking machine is in itself lubricated with Ham-Soil and has never sucked so much as right phucking now! And no, I am not a Ham-soil dealer but do however bring home the bacon.



MGM is my hero. Gene, if I added SLick 50 to that stuff you pimp for would I wind up with SLAMS-OIL? Can you deep fry snipes in it?



See you at the next Tupperware party!



Mike



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[k.vickers]

sad state of affairs

this used to be a decent place to learn about different ways to take care of my truck. i thank goodness for the many good tips i've picked up here ... however,

you people have made this a very unpleasant place to be. with all that's going on in this world it seems you could at least be mature enough to show some respect for others, but i guess that's not going to happen. everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, without having to worry about being attacked for it.



Don M: you asked for the comments to stay respectful and chided someone for critisicm and being ugly, then you act the exact way you were complaining about.



'956wheel: grow up.



some of the posts here have been reported to the moderator ... i hope he takes care of the problem. i've been a street-working police officer for over 22 years, and i have to put up with enough of this type of crap on the street. it sure is a shame that we all have to put up with it in here, too.



by the way ... i don't sell amsoil, i don't sell anything, but wrong is wrong. i've never seen mgm act with anything but respect toward anyone on this board. i don't think he deserves the attacks he has gotten on this thread. don't even know the man, but like i said, wrong is wrong. imho

 

[mikepvg]

Originally posted by MGM

Mike,

Since you are such a factual guy, explain to me why you did not contact Amsoil and let them explain why their lube was ok in this application?



I did, as previously explained to you.

Originally posted by MGM

Especially after your own poll indicated the Amsoil was being used by a lot of TDR members.



People take drugs also. I guess if everyone does it, its OK?

Originally posted by MGM

Instead, you seemed to look under rocks to find "experts" from other oil companies, for reasons why to use the Castrol.



I guess NVG, Castrol, Shell Oil Co, Lubrizol, Dodge & others who design & test these products are not qualified enough for you?





Gene, I'm very disappointed in your attitude.



1) I have NEVER said one negative thing regarding Amsoil products. Period. As a matter of fact Gene, I even directed individuals on this board on how to get some Amsoil lube locally that requested it.



2) I make every effort possible to try to stick with only the facts in an effort to help other TDR members. Just like when they helped me when I first started. I try to give a little back. I have answered countless private emails on my own time & expense to help those who have asked. Its a pity that certain members intimidate other members into not even asking for help on the public forums.



3) Every TDR member has a value & can make a postive contribution to this board. If a TDR member choses not to contribute in a postive manner, that member should not be a TDR member.



Mike Nowicki

 

['956Wheel]

Vickers,



With all due respect do not take your law enforcement woes out on the folks here. I have never been involved in the likes of those you encounter on the street. You tell me "grow up", why don't you stop whining. All folks have common hurt from the current tragic events and deal with it in different ways, you are not my dictator and should never expect the world to change just for you. This attitude is one of a troubled person, you have displayed this to all by placeing other members in your daily trials on the street. Please take my following suggestion into consideration, relax before you hit the keys.



This group is a kind, often playful one with a diverse mix of personalitys, I have e-mailed to Gene and he has to me, he is a good man and has helped with suggestions in the past. Yes, there is a difference of opinion between us but we are settled in the fact that we are both experienced folks that often differ in views... . nothing wrong with that or "playing" about it, I tend to "play" more than Gene but this is not a crime. Is it?



For you to come on and fuss and report to moderators is PERMANENTLY damaging an otherwise victimless situation. what a shame.



If I offended Gene, I post a sincere apology, I doubt I hurt his feelings cause a secure MAN is not hurt by a buger like me!

 

[Sled Puller]

Mike,

What I was trying to say, was since such a great number of members are using the Amsoil, maybe you should have discussed it a little more with Amsoil and had a paragraph in your article about why the Amsoil is safe to use.



Instead, you seem to have only wrote about why people shouldn't be using anything but the Castrol, and what a great risk they are taking.





No biggy, I guess it is time Amsoil Inc writes a formal article on why Their gear lube is safe to use in the NV 4500, and will not void your warranty.



Gene



Nice to see someone takes my side every now and then- Thanks1



Statland- blah-blah- blah!

 

['956Wheel]

Re: Changed it at 150+K

Gene, You failed to reply in a manner that "holds water" to your past post on this very thread. Blah Blah. There are people here who need proof, they are not ignorant. I will discontinue ANY posts on you oil ads, as I get tired of the same old BLAH BLAH and you can't seem to take mine either.



No anger, no answers and your BLAH is more important than mine.



Mike





"burnt, thick and disgusting" at 26,000 how can that be?

That was in your post, can you please explain how this "one and only" occurance could happen... . to a dealer of the "opposition".



My reply to your post is "Quoted" below:

Originally posted by '956Wheel

Gene, I bought my truck from a friend who shows horses, most of the miles are with a 4 horse trailer in tow, country wide. I changed the FACTORY oil when I got the truck and studied it. Yes, it was used oil, no, it was not thick, burnt or "disgusting", it was simply used. My employer maintains a laboratory whos duties include, but are not limited to, lubricant analysis... on steam, hydro and gas turbines, ( gas turbines are "land locked" jet engines coupled to a generator), the guys checked out the oil (just for "fun") and found NOTHING that would indicate abnormal condition of the oil. Hummm! Sorry, fresh Syntorq went back in... no sale.



Mike

P. S. Keep in mind the above lab test is UNBIASED. YOUR SERVE



Mike