Oil Change Question

[ARedmon]

Good to know! I actually already have one of those same strap wrenches so I'm all set! And I've been using the zip-lock bag trick for years with my '05. It's a really great idea!

 

[SSchang]

FYI - be very careful that you get NOTHING in the intake ducting between the turbo and the air filter. I cringed when I saw it lying on your driveway. A couple grains of sand can ruin the turbo. We call it FOD (Foreign Object Damage).

 

[ARedmon]

Good tip, SSchang! Maybe we should vacuum out the ducting just before re-installing?

 

[Essy]

Gpa; while you are correct in a matter of fact way that the oil system has to function very briefly for the oil filter to fill, I have never filled the oil filter on any engine in advance, including drag racing motors with very high compression. The oil pumps on many engines (all of the ones I have worked on directly) fill the oil filter in a couple of seconds.

I too have never pre filled my new oil filters before installing! Never had an engine problem!!!

 

[Essy]

Has anyone installed a by pass filter system on there truck?

 

[ARedmon]

OK. I just changed the oil for the first time on my 2014 RAM 3500 Dually Laramie Longhorn Cummins. I had intended to remove the air filter ducting and go entirely from the top. After sizing up the situation, I decided different. I DID have to use a strap wrench with an extension from the top side to break the filter loose because the factory torque on the oil filter was ridiculous! But, from this day forward, I should be able to use the common metal band type oil filter wrench through the wheel well opening. Once I'd broken the filter loose, I put a gallon size slider Glad bag over the filter from the bottom as far as I could pull it up. Then I slowly unscrewed the filter by hand through the wheel well, stopping occasionally to reposition the Glad bag. As soon as I felt that the filter was almost off, I repositioned the Glad bag one last time; then from the wheel well, took it the rest of the way off and dropped it down low enough that, by tilting it slightly, I could seal the Glad bag with the slider and then tilt it the rest of the way needed to pull it out through the wheel well hole. I didn't spill a drop of oil!!! I also found that when replacing with a new filter, I could actually prefill the oil filter with about a 1/2 quart of oil, letting it soak into the filter for a minute before tilting it as little as possible and fitting it back up to the threads; again without spilling any oil. Now that I've replaced that first "gorilla installed" oil filter, I think that future oil changes might actually be a little easier than they were on my '05. Oh, and if anyone is interested, I replaced the factory 5w40 synthetic with 15w40 Mopar MaxPro conventional diesel oil. It is simply Rotella with the Mopar label on it. Having never experienced an oil related problem on any vehicle I've owned and used conventional oil, I just didn't want the expense of synthetic. I have a camping friend that used to own a fleet of Semi-Trucks for his business before he retired. This was even in cold country (Ontario, Canada). I asked him about the use of synthetics in his fleet. He told me that his company couldn't justify the added expense of it. He used 15w40 Rotella in his entire fleet of Semis, Summer and Winter without any oil-related problems! That's good enough for me.

 

[jus2shy]

I need to see pics of the oil filter fitting through that wheel well housing. I took another look at my truck and it seems like the transmission cooler lines and the air conditioning refrigerant lines get in the way of a Fleetguard 16035. Same exact size as a Mopar MO-285 filter BTW. I'm just wondering what's different on my truck that you can fit a filter through it and I can't. Or maybe I'm just doing things wrong.

TIA.

 

[gsbrockman]

I need to see pics of the oil filter fitting through that wheel well housing. I took another look at my truck and it seems like the transmission cooler lines and the air conditioning refrigerant lines get in the way of a Fleetguard 16035. Same exact size as a Mopar MO-285 filter BTW. I'm just wondering what's different on my truck that you can fit a filter through it and I can't. Or maybe I'm just doing things wrong.

TIA.

I'm still scratching my head how it's done as well......I wonder if the guys that are doing it easily have G56's or 68RFE's ???? The transmission lines on both my Aisin equipped trucks says "no way"....

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I'm not taking the chance on pulling / tugging on these lines, after the long wait I experienced getting one as a crash part on my '13 and with all of the trouble JLandry had procuring his. For me.....I'll continue to remove the intake ductwork....it's a piece of cake.

Maybe some G56 or 68RFE guys can chime in.....

 

[jus2shy]

Brockman, my setup looks exactly the same and I have a 68RFE. Of course I also have the addition of the block heater cord that I zip tied to the foil wrapped line and then to the other harness that runs towards the engine block. But yeah, same exact trans line routing and compressor refrigerant routing.

 

[gsbrockman]

Well....we've eliminated the 68RFE out of the equation. What about a 2013 3500 G56 owner or a 2014 2500 / 3500 G56 owner chiming in???

 

[ARedmon]

My truck has the Aisin transmission and it looks just like gsbrockman's picture above. There's room below the filter to drop it down, tilt the upper, gasketed, open end of the filter toward the opening and pull it through there. It actually comes through there easily, even with the Glad bag around it. Now that I've changed it the first time, I'm thinking this is a bit easier than changing the filter on my '05. The reason I decided to go from the bottom was to eliminate any chance of getting something into the air intake.

 

[Dieselnerd]

I haven't changed my oil yet but I'll be doing it soon. I decided quite awhile ago that I was going to find a way to change the filter through the wheel well. I just don't believe you need to take apart the intake and I figured they put that opening in the fender liner for a reason.

Thanks to ARedmon for proving it could be done. That's exactly how I had planned to do it, bag and all. I don't think those transmission lines are so delicate that you can't push on them a little bit. If they are they don't belong in a truck.

 

[jus2shy]

OK, This is why I need picture. Again, this is an LF16035. It doesn't fit in my wheel well. I need to know what's different between mine and yours to see how this fits. I am attaching pictures of me holding an LF16035 into the hole it should go into. The LF16035 should be identical in dimensions to the mopar MO-285 when I last held the two together. I want to be able to take evidence back to my dealer and get this changed if my truck does indeed have a deficiency. Here's my pics.

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I personally don't want to shove the hard lines for my refrigerant compressor or trans cooling lines around.

 

[gsbrockman]

It's very odd that you posted this.....I still have the old, drained oil filter from my last oil change. I was going to try the exact same thing today, but you beat me to it. The LF16035 and MO285 are identical in dimensions. I'll give it a shot Thursday myself and see what my results are.

 

[SnoKing]

It's very odd that you posted this.....I still have the old, drained oil filter from my last oil change. I was going to try the exact same thing today, but you beat me to it. The LF16035 and MO285 are identical in dimensions. I'll give it a shot Thursday myself and see what my results are.

Angle it down and to the back? Chris

 

[gsbrockman]

Angle it down and to the back? Chris

The angle and lowering is not the problem (IMO).....it's "squeezing" it between the various lines that's pictured.

 

[gsbrockman]

Washed the '14 Flame Red DRW today and afterwards I rounded up my old oil filter from the '13. This filter (MO285) fits tighter than a mouse's ear and I personally had not planned on ever changing this way and will not even offer consideration to changing the oil filter this way.

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Too much pulling & tugging on those lines.....plus I can pre-fill the oil filter 100% and easily install it from the top. Two screw clamps and one other clamp and it's outta there.

 

[jus2shy]

I'm surprised you got it in that far. From the same angle, I have to bend hard lines. I'm paranoid of doing that personally. The last time I tried to come out through the gap I made a huge mess on my truck. However, thanks for the picks brockman. I can see some subtle differences. So I'm guessing the lines might have more spread on the 14's. Also note that you don't have the 2 fasteners on the side of the frame like I had on my 13' (namely the orange fastener and the big thick silver fastener on the side of the frame rail). So there must had been some updates.

 

[gsbrockman]

There was as much friction (if not more) near the edge of my wheel well liner than there was with the lines. No way a Glad bag would survive the removal of the oil filter on my '14. I'm perplexed.....maybe I should look at the '13 Friday.

 

[Ram4Sam]

I went out and crawled under mine and I don't see an oil filter fitting between the fluid lines without bending things......My two cents. I wonder how they do it at the dealer....... Bob or Sag, what say you??

sam