Opinions on Buybacks

[snadamo]

I am seeing a few of these "buyback" trucks for sale in my area. Some of the buyback reasons in their Carfax reports range from "won't start" to "seat cushion not staying on". Anything emissions related I automatically omit from my searches

My gut feeling tells me to stay away from these even if the price is right and the mileage is low. Just seems like too big a risk for such a costly item, even if the reason for the buyback reason was minor. Additionally, do they even qualify for extended warranties?

I've done a little research myself on these types of vehicles. However, I wanted to see what, if any, experiences you guys have.

Anyway, Merry belated Christmas to everyone!

 

[SnoKing]

I am seeing a few of these "buyback" trucks for sale in my area. Some of the buyback reasons in their Carfax reports range from "won't start" to "seat cushion not staying on". Anything emissions related I automatically omit from my searches

My gut feeling tells me to stay away from these even if the price is right and the mileage is low. Just seems like too big a risk for such a costly item, even if the reason for the buyback reason was minor. Additionally, do they even qualify for extended warranties?

I've done a little research myself on these types of vehicles. However, I wanted to see what, if any, experiences you guys have.

Anyway, Merry belated Christmas to everyone!

There are very good deals right now on leftover 2019's.

 

[nukegm]

comrade - i would avoid buybacks. probably lemon law vehicles. one of my buddies is a subaru tech. he is currently trying to troubleshoot a 16 subaru that had been as a buy back. it went to the dealer 31 times in a year for same issue. now its his stinking pile of sh t to troubleshoot. he isnt very enthusiastic about it. the lady got a screaming deal on the scoob for a reason. cheers! merry christmas comrades!

 

[seahawkdodge]

I have one that is about to be a buyback. I don't want it back.

 

[seahawkdodge]

Oops, duplicate.

 

[SnoKing]

I have one that is about to be a buyback. I don't want it back.

4th Generation 1500 EcoDiesel?

 

[seahawkdodge]

That's the one.

I don't think I would purchase a lemon/buyback, no matter how good the deal.

 

[snadamo]

There are very good deals right now on leftover 2019's.

I am noticing this. I wonder how much "wheeling and dealing" I could do to get that price lower...

 

[sag2]

They come with a one year unlimited mile warranty plus any remaining factory warranty. They should qualify for a Mopar service contract. Most do not have anything wrong with them. There are a few dealers that buy all the buybacks at the auction because they steal them, and with all the benefits they make a bunch of money on them. I would not be afraid of them, and some are repurchased for some really stupid reasons.

 

[SnoKing]

I am noticing this. I wonder how much "wheeling and dealing" I could do to get that price lower...

On another forum a member claimed 15K off. 10-12K is easy. Your desire for a 2016-2018 is good however. 2016 got front park sense, they fixed cameras so user can more them between display and 2018 still has the CP3 injection pump.

 

[seahawkdodge]

Any vehicle that is labeled as a buyback, has had issue(s). To go through the lemon law process is a major PITA. And FCA doesn't buy back vehicles for "Goodwill" unless they meet certain criteria (30+ days out of service, 4+ visits for the same issue, serious safety issue etc.). Basically it needs to meet or exceed lemon law requirements.
Yes, some of these vehicles may be fixed and have no further issue. But by being a lemon once, the likely hood it continues to be a lemon is much greater than a regular used vehicle.
Play roulette with your vehicle purchase if you want to, but understand why that vehicle is there.

 

[Ram4Sam]

If you want a buyback for the low price and the challenge of fixing what others could not, let her rip.....it's one big crap shoot otherwise.
The dealer spent a year trying to fix my 2014 truck, 8 or 9 tries, threw a truckload of parts at it and never exorcised the electrical demons from the dash of the truck. After the buyback, the truck sat untouched at the dealership for six weeks or so, then ended up at a sales lot in Wisconsin to be sold unrepaired.

Sam

 

[sag2]

I have run the VIN on quite a few buyback vehicles over the years and rarely do they return for future repairs. In fact I recall looking at Ram4Sam's truck since I was involved in the repair and as I recall it also never returned.
The key is know what you're looking at, by law they have to show you the reason for the repurchase.

 

[p-Bar]

USAA won't insure lemonlaw vehicles. So be sure your insurer will.

 

[Tuesdak]

So talk yourself out of it or gamble and learn the hard way only without ANY benefit of Lemon Law, because it's used. Maybe you get lucky and it was as simple as parts not available. Maybe you spend the next year in rented, borrowed, or loaner vehicles as your Lemon Shop Queen can't stay off the hook.

What isn't said is OTHER problems that may have gone on aside of the single problem that made it through a Lemon Law and not just "Go Away" cash settlement offers, but, to the buy the Fing Lemon back stage.

So this gamble you take is simply a question of how much a reliable vehicle matters to you. And if you loose the bet how much of a loss can you take to also Get Rid Of That Lemon?

Yeah you loose $$$$$ driving New off the lot, but, you have some lemon protection used does not. This varies by state law as some have used Lemon Laws and others do not.

 

[TFucili]

Having lemon lawed a prior truck, I would not touch one with a ten foot pole.

 

[seahawkdodge]

I am on lemon number three, with two lemons right now. Both 2018 models, my Ram and a Toyota Sienna.

 

[sag2]

So talk yourself out of it or gamble and learn the hard way only without ANY benefit of Lemon Law, because it's used. Maybe you get lucky and it was as simple as parts not available. Maybe you spend the next year in rented, borrowed, or loaner vehicles as your Lemon Shop Queen can't stay off the hook.

What isn't said is OTHER problems that may have gone on aside of the single problem that made it through a Lemon Law and not just "Go Away" cash settlement offers, but, to the buy the Fing Lemon back stage.

So this gamble you take is simply a question of how much a reliable vehicle matters to you. And if you loose the bet how much of a loss can you take to also Get Rid Of That Lemon?

Yeah you loose $$$$$ driving New off the lot, but, you have some lemon protection used does not. This varies by state law as some have used Lemon Laws and others do not.

In California it doesn't matter if it is used or new. You also don't have to own it any longer. The law is written so the attorneys get their money, regardless if the customer gets theirs back.

 

[sag2]

I am on lemon number three, with two lemons right now. Both 2018 models, my Ram and a Toyota Sienna.

The odds of you getting three lemons are so far out there. Something isn't right here. There is some new case law that the number of lemons a consumer has is admissable as evidence in the lawsuit. Mercedes has a very good AI program to identify serial lemon customers because they have been taken advantage of.

 

[seahawkdodge]

I agree the odds are exceptionally low. Especially having both of them as lemons right now.

My first was in 2001 (Dodge Dakota). It was breaking cab mounts just driving, and none of the dealerships could figure it out. I went through DC for help, then arbitration. Finally hired a lawyer. 47 days out of service and it wouldn't go more than a couple hundred miles before breaking the cab mounts. According to DC, it was safe to drive with all four cab mounts broken...

The sienna has two third row seats that keep sticking and a myriad of other small problems. It's been to the dealership nine times for repairs in just over a year. Toyota refused to fix it, and voided my warranty after I filed lemon law.

The ram (Ecodiesel) had a couple issues, but has been at the dealership for two months waiting on parts for an EGR cooler failure.