Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Quad-adrenalin

[AllianceDiesel]

I couldn't find the list of what each tune does

 

[monkeyman]

Let me know if you see this:

Pump Stretch.

This will make the biggest difference in overall power and smoke. This is the amount of time the injector is actually opened and spraying fuel into the cylinder. I have this set pretty low on the 1000 tune that I sent you. The COMP file is set to 1800. More than 1800 creates more torque and a lot more smoke but, actually makes less power on the upper end based on all the trucks I have had on the dyno. This is where the COMP file is set to. Feel free to run it to 2400 anytime you want lots of low end power and smoke but, realize you are giving power up on the top.

This does not mean you will get this amount of fuel all the time. There is a map, in percentages based off of this number as the maximum. Beyond that the map is also scaled by the TPS. So even if the map commands 100% but, you are at 50% throttle you will be getting 50% of the max stretch. If the map calls for 25% and you are at 50% TPS you will be getting 12. 5% of the max stretch.


TPS MIN. For both CAN and Pump fueling.

This allows you to set at what TPS% the module actually starts fueling. A higher number will be less aggressive, a lower number such as 0% will be the most aggressive. It is important to watch TPS% on your Pulse in determining when you actually want to start fueling. We set this at 30% on most tunes as that is about the min TPS% you will see while driving in normal conditions.

TPS MAX. Both CAN and Pump Stretch.

This allows you to determine what throttle position you will see max fueling at. It also re-scales the entire map based on what you select. This is set to 100% on tunes I sent out. This means that you will not get 100% of the map unless you are at 100% TPS. If you set this at 80% TPS that means you will get 100% of the fueling at 80% TPS. It also means that 80%=100% and the map is scaled between 0% and 80% but, on a 0-100 scale. In other words the map moves in increments of . 8% instead of 1%.

This can be really useful for those that drive light but, want power on tap earlier in the pedal but, not necessarily right off idle.


Timing MAX

Sort of goes without saying. 0 means we do not add any timing. 10deg means if the map calls for 100% you will get 10deg added over stock.

I never go over 7. 5%. In my opinion that is more than plenty. If you are going for only mileage and are going to be easy you can use 10 deg and it should be great for mileage. The problem is that under much boost it could easily cause headgasket damage.


Boost Scaling.

This function is more of a smoothing function of the map. There are 20 positions that this function controls. Think of it at columns. Until boost equals a certain amount, then it is in a certain column. It takes more or less boost to move to different columns.

So if you set this to 20, then each column is changed by 1psi. If you scale it to 40psi then every 2psi it changes.

While this can make things more or less responsive or smooth it out slightly it does not make huge differences because not necessarily every column is more or less aggressive than the next. There have been maps in the past and there will be maps in the future where they will be more boost reliant. For now we do not rely on boost that much other than as this scaling function.
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[rivercat]

is there any timing control in the cab on this box?

what about those running big sticks and high boost don't they need less timing. I guess there would be a different software.

 

[DCreed]

Let me know if you see this:



Pump Stretch.



This will make the biggest difference in overall power and smoke. This is the amount of time the injector is actually opened and spraying fuel into the cylinder. I have this set pretty low on the 1000 tune that I sent you. The COMP file is set to 1800. More than 1800 creates more torque and a lot more smoke but, actually makes less power on the upper end based on all the trucks I have had on the dyno. This is where the COMP file is set to. Feel free to run it to 2400 anytime you want lots of low end power and smoke but, realize you are giving power up on the top.



This does not mean you will get this amount of fuel all the time. There is a map, in percentages based off of this number as the maximum. Beyond that the map is also scaled by the TPS. So even if the map commands 100% but, you are at 50% throttle you will be getting 50% of the max stretch. If the map calls for 25% and you are at 50% TPS you will be getting 12. 5% of the max stretch.





TPS MIN. For both CAN and Pump fueling.



This allows you to set at what TPS% the module actually starts fueling. A higher number will be less aggressive, a lower number such as 0% will be the most aggressive. It is important to watch TPS% on your Pulse in determining when you actually want to start fueling. We set this at 30% on most tunes as that is about the min TPS% you will see while driving in normal conditions.



TPS MAX. Both CAN and Pump Stretch.



This allows you to determine what throttle position you will see max fueling at. It also re-scales the entire map based on what you select. This is set to 100% on tunes I sent out. This means that you will not get 100% of the map unless you are at 100% TPS. If you set this at 80% TPS that means you will get 100% of the fueling at 80% TPS. It also means that 80%=100% and the map is scaled between 0% and 80% but, on a 0-100 scale. In other words the map moves in increments of . 8% instead of 1%.



This can be really useful for those that drive light but, want power on tap earlier in the pedal but, not necessarily right off idle.





Timing MAX



Sort of goes without saying. 0 means we do not add any timing. 10deg means if the map calls for 100% you will get 10deg added over stock.



I never go over 7. 5%. In my opinion that is more than plenty. If you are going for only mileage and are going to be easy you can use 10 deg and it should be great for mileage. The problem is that under much boost it could easily cause headgasket damage.





Boost Scaling.



This function is more of a smoothing function of the map. There are 20 positions that this function controls. Think of it at columns. Until boost equals a certain amount, then it is in a certain column. It takes more or less boost to move to different columns.



So if you set this to 20, then each column is changed by 1psi. If you scale it to 40psi then every 2psi it changes.



While this can make things more or less responsive or smooth it out slightly it does not make huge differences because not necessarily every column is more or less aggressive than the next. There have been maps in the past and there will be maps in the future where they will be more boost reliant. For now we do not rely on boost that much other than as this scaling function.

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is there any timing control in the cab on this box?



what about those running big sticks and high boost don't they need less timing. I guess there would be a different software.

look up.

 

[AllianceDiesel]

oh yeah I have seen that list over at competition diesel but thanks for posting it again now I have two places to find it. By the way, I am going on a 1200 mile trip so I will mess around and see what settings get the best mileage.

 

[rivercat]

doof move

sorry I posted without reading the whole thread sounds like one heck of a box to say the least certantly much better than the comp which just crudly floggs the engine with fuel as soon as it reads 8-10 psi from the map its less advanced to me than the plates used on 12 valves.

one thing that has boggled me in the past is the stock MAP only has the capacity to read 0-35. 8 or something its signal is in "s of mercury i think and tops out at 75. I think you have to factor in the constant 14. ? #s of atmosphereic presure into the equasion. Been a long time since I had an obd2 scanner on the truck and only does an adaquately accurate job at that, mine is lazy till the truck gets hot and will allow lots of smoke down low even with the comp on 1x1 till it gets warmed up.

My question is why not use actual boost pressure of the intake with some sort of sensor that is designed to be accurate and has the capacity to read upto 80#s or so for the twin or pullers and base your fuel map off of that seems like you could make a much more smooth curve if you had the whole spoolup procces to consider. could be the only important time in smoke control or timing is the 0-12#s or so but im sure with water and nitrus in mind im sure it would be beneficial to consider the whole thing.

bear in mind this is only something that would strike you if you watched your high boost engine spool up on a scanner with live data showing the MAP reading. when I did it It seemed like With any petal at all the scanner read 75 InHg or what ever it just seemed like it was at its baseline or pegged on 75 all the time and it just struck me as crude that fuel was added or not based on what I saw.

do the tsts read boost independatly of the MAP?



one more thing to ponder this box can be tuned to fuel hard over 3400 like a Redline box

they say redlines will fry the VP with lots of use at high rpms
does this box do anything different ?

not sure if it does or not but if you could run the high rpms without max fuel I guess that would help

I always believed with bigger sticks and less box for the same you could be smoother cleaner on the lowend and add life to the VP but lots on here are running 1. 6s or rv275s and then using the comp on 5x5 everyday or this box on 10 what gives?

all that money you saved on the 275s is traded for 2 or 3 vp44s down the road. .

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[monkeyman]

Yes, read the tunes. You can advance the timing over stock. But don't go crazy!
Rick

 

[monkeyman]

PS: The combo rocks withy modified engines. (Adreniline/Pulse)
Rick

 

[DCreed]

PS: The combo rocks withy modified engines. (Adreniline/Pulse)

Rick

X2!!:-laf

 

[AllianceDiesel]

Well got it finally installed after getting the wrong year adrenaline, had it for 2 days and now the pulse is acting up, sent quad an email so we will see what happens.

 

[monkeyman]

Does the Pulse have the latest program on it? Best person to e-mail is Jeremy.

Rick

 

[AllianceDiesel]

yep put the new programming in it before I installed it, decided to try it again and still acting up, ya I have talked to jeremy before on another adrenaline truck, guess I will have to when I get back in two weeks

 

[JSzajko]

can you use a steath style pump cover with this box instead of the t tap

 

[DCreed]

yes, but it MUST have a SOLID connection.

 

[JSzajko]

I got it all hooked up thanks. Now just gotta order a new clutch.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Since the electrical connection to the VP is so critical it is to bad there is not away to test the connection. It sure would be nice if the Quad had away to do this by providing a pass/fail read back somehow on the Pulse. Or using a multimeter or something other than a test driver pulling up a hill and changing power levels!!!

 

[monkeyman]

I soldered my connection and sealed it really good. The Pulse has a protection mode for the VP so it will not 'fry" it. I drive my truck daily and have tried many different combo settings. I am using the 2025 Adrenaline Tune. I have gone to 51+ PSI. However I put in a separate Fuel pressure gauge as I did not want to go to the trouble of sending everything back

Rick

 

[RoosterXP]

where are you guys mounting the small control pod (not the pulse) if you have pics that would be great too. I mounted my comp on the left hand side of my knee bolster, just curious where everyone is putting theirs? thanks!

 

[DCreed]

I used heavy-duty velcro and mounted it to the dash just above the radio.

 

[RoosterXP]

is the light kind of annoying when its dark and driving?