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2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Replacement seat motors info: 2 men 1 garage

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Sent an email to Two Men One Garage asking about the seat motors for the 98-2002 trucks, and then for the 2006 and later models. Within 24 hours of sending, I had a very informative reply from Barry Humrich. I asked if I could share the info with everyone on the board here and he said that would be great, and asked for any feedback from anyone who may already be using some of their products. The following is the email I recieved from Barry.



Craig,



Thanks for the email.



The motors I sell for the 2002-2005 trucks I "think" are the same motors for the 2006-2010 ram trucks. I've sold a couple to 2006 owners and they said it's the same motor. I've not been able to verify this myself. I'm trying to get a power seat assembly for that year of truck to verify before I start advertising them as a replacement. I had one guy tell me the Dodge parts catalog shows the same part number for 2002-2010. Once again, I haven't verified this myself.



I read the thread on the website you mentioned and it appears the motor worked on a 2006 ram truck. The originator of the thread was correct, that getting the roll pin out was the hardest. I sold the only seat unit I had on hand, so now I don't have one to make install instructions and pictures with. Bad move on my part, because getting a reasonably priced unit is hard to do. Once I can purchase another, I'm going to do a set of install instructions. I get numerous emails on the installation of the motor, so I need to publish some instructions.



One person in the thread talked about replacing the plastic gear with a metal one. The plastic gear is molded onto the shaft, around a metal washer welded onto the shaft. The metal washer would have to be ground off, then a metal gear made to slide over the shaft and most likely drilled and pinned. It would also have to fit the worm gear that drives it. Making a metal gear would take a lot of machine work that the average user doesn't have access to.



I went with a different end profile on the shaft because the factory set up was a major pain. At the end of the shaft is a bushing stop, which limits the upward movement of the seat. The factory design used a constant section ring to hold the stop bushing on the end of the shaft. That ring was a major pain to get off, sourcing the correct size of ring was also a problem, as well as the added expense of matching the tapered shaft profile, so I went with a left hand thread jam nut and bushing to provide the stop. Much easier to take on and off.



1998-2001 ram trucks



I'm working on replacement motors for this year group now. There are several issues I have to work through to get my motors to work. The roll pin holding the motor on is a larger diameter than the 2002-2005 trucks, the collar on the shaft is different as are the shaft threads and electrical connector. Nothing will be reused during the replacement. I've worked through all the issues, I hope, and am in the process of getting a kit together. Then I can see how hard the install process is going to be. I hope to have something on the market in a month or two.



Hope this helps,



Barry
 
Thanks for sharing.



I sent them a message 10/1/10 asking if they were planning on making replacements for those of us with 98 - 01 Ram trucks and never heard back. I'm glad to hear someone got back to you.



Disappointing they never answered my question. I mentioned my seat hasn't worked since 2005 and knew at least 5 other TDR members in the same predicament.



I'll re-send the message to them and ask for reply. If I hear anything I'll post up in this thread.



Their website is 2men1garage

Link>Home - Mustang, Ram, Power Seat Motors, Gears - Two Men One Garage
 
Hi. First post. Forgive me if I'm covering already known details.

The motors to adjust the seat height on my truck weren't working so I opened them up and soldered the fusible link. They work fine now.

Obviously, this isn't going to help you if you have a problem with stripped gears, but I thought I'd throw that out there since it's an active topic.
 
Hey guys, looks like there's hope for us with the 98 - 01 trucks on the horizon. See Barry's reply to my "re-send" last night.



Joseph,



I remember your email and I'm sorry if I didn't get back to you. No excuse on my part, I try to respond to everyone. I'm working on a solution for your year of truck now. It won't be an exact replacement motor, but more like a retro-fit. Those years of power seat assemblies are totally different than the other years. I'm certain I have solution thou.



Once again, my apologies for not responding the first time.

Barry
 
My seat has been intermittent for awhile, I haven't gotten around to messing with it yet. When I do, hopefully it will be a simple fix!



If not, good to know reasonably priced replacement motors are on the horizon.
 
The list he shows... 98-01 is incorrect for the 2500 and 3500 trucks.
The list of years should go 98-02 as only the 1/2 ton trucks had been redesigned for those years. The 02 diesels were still 2nd gen's and have the same interiors.

i hope something shakes loose soon as I have used a couple of used motors for mine and would like a set of new ones. Ma Mopar's outrageous price due to only selling the entire assembly is not for me... ... Andy
 
OK Guys and Gals here's the latest from Barry @ Home - Mustang, Ram, Jeep Car Seat Motors, Gears - Two Men One Garage,



Since Barry has only had the chance to install the latest motors on "Test Mule" seats on a bench he's sending me two motors (I think he only has the front and rear up/down motors presently) to evaluate; the installation instructions in a "real world" situation (seats installed in a truck) and the travel distance of the motors.



He mentioned there are two methods of end stop on each of the motors he's sending, one is a thin washer and the other is a barrel nut. He's sending along another barrel nut so if I like this method I can use it on both motors.



I'll be taking pictures and making notes for Barry of my opinion of how the install goes.



Once Barry gets a look at the pictures and my notes, and after he and I get a chance to chat about things, if he's OK I'll post up some pictures and my notes.



Oh, Barry feels the motors will run around $90 each, but this most likely will based on if other modifications are needed and/or type of stop (barrel nut or washer) used. Don't quote me on this I'm just going on recollection of my email from Barry.



Wow after 5 years of no seat adjustment "at all" I'll be able to up/down front and rear of seat. I'm just hopeful there's a plan for the fore and aft motor in the future so I can confidently move the seat fore and aft. Presently this motor works "when it wants to" and it's not the switch as I've taken the motor out and verified via live wires to a battery.



Funny thing about the fore and aft motor working when it feels like it. My wife took the truck one day, when she returned she sat in front of the house and looked at me saying "Get me out of this thing!"#@$%! She adjusted the seat a little closer to the wheel and when she went too far she tried to go back, well that didn't work. So she tried to move the seat forward a bit and get the motor to move the seat back, well that didn't work either :-laf Apparently she had tried this many times and ended up moving the seat all the way forward until her b_ _bs were touching the steering wheel and could barely steer :--) :{:cool: So after I played "Mr. Switch jigglier" for around 10 minutes and finally got the motor to move back so she could get out of the truck she proclaimed "I'll never drive that F'ing thing again!#@$%! :-laf:-laf:-laf Maybe after I get the seat working again I won't tell her ;)



More to come.
 
Thanks for the INFO. I will be looking at getting one as soon as I can get the garage to fix it for me. == GOOD LUCK ==
 
Hey Guys and Gals,



Wednesday I received the 2 up/down motors for my seat from Barry @ Home - Mustang, Ram, Jeep Car Seat Motors, Gears - Two Men One Garage I forgot them in my office so I brought them home Thursday after work. I checked them out and the quality looks great. Friday after work I took the seat bottom off to take a look and see if they could be installed without removing the seat from the cab. It appeared it could be done. So I got started this morning around 10 and had both motors swapped in a few hours of puttering. Pretty smooth install and best thing is my seat works again!!! In the past I had a problem with the forward/aft motor as mentioned in previous post see #8 above. When I unplugged the front up/down motor I plugged wires into the forward/aft motor and it worked fine both ways!!! So after I got the two new motors from Barry installed I took the switch assy apart. Man that thing is pretty wicked inside, all these little copper switches and contacts. I cleaned everything up with carb cleaner and ran a dollar bill between the contacts and BINGO the forward/aft motor works both ways - for the first time in almost 6 years my seat is a "working" 6-way seat again.



The seat motor kits come with everything you'll need to do the job (except the tools of course); motor, bolt, spacer, nut and solder-less connectors. Barry said he should be ready to sell/ship in less than a month.



Hey Andy, thanks for mentioning they should go 98 - 02 versus 01. I drop Barry a note so he's aware. You still have ol` Red?
 
Great News

Thanks for the update and the effort ya'll have put into this problem!!



I can't wait for these to come out, my seat only moves fore and aft..... Sure will be nice to be able to adjust the angle again!
 
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