Severe Duty Filtration Kit

[07 ThunderRoad]

This is what I have. The filter, heater, and bracket are in other pic posted befor. What I have read, I'm missing the W. I. F. sensor for the factory engine mounted filter. I think the fuel pump may befor a 52gal. C&C rear tank. If you note any other parts missing, let me know. Is the replacement W. I. F. sensor the same as the one in the filter? Or is it a new "stock" W. I. F. sensor?

 

[AH64ID]

There are 2 pieces needed for the WIF sensor. There is a new sensor that screws into the OE filter canister, and a short adapter to make the new sensor work with the new wiring harness.

The WIF sensor in the filter may fit, I don't know on the threads, but you still need to make a connector adapter.

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

I can't look at my trucks W. I. F. wiring right now, too much snow on the truck and in the sky. The lower right area of my pic above, the wiring has a male and female W. I. F. plug tied together in the harness. To the left of the fuse holder is the male W. I. F. plug and then the filter heater plug for the "kit" filter.

1) Because my wiring harness has the male and female plugs wired together, do I still need an adapter for the factory replacement W. I. F. sensor because the plug is different from the original W. I. F. ? Or does the factory replacement W. I. F. sensor have the same electrical plug end as the "kit" filter has?

2) Do you know what the Cummins part number is for the factory replacement W. I. F. ?

Thank you for the instructions.

 

[AH64ID]

1) Your harness looks just like mine, and I needed an adapter. The new WIF sensor has a different plug.

2) I will look at it tonight, if I remember

Did you get the instructions?

Oh yeah, I still need to get a shipping quote.

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

1) Your harness looks just like mine, and I needed an adapter. The new WIF sensor has a different plug.

I looked at my trucks W. I. F. sensor. The plug ends that the new "kit" has for the factory sensor and harness are the same as the "kit's" filter sensor. The original sensor and plug are small. Called dealer with the part number off the wiring harness. They said it was for a 2010 kit. Did your new sensor, for the factory filter, have a larger plug receptical then the original one?

 

[AH64ID]

Yes, its a larger plug and receptacle. . Let me go get pics... and CRAP I still need to get a shipping quote, but I have to work all weekend, I have Monday off thou.

 

[AH64ID]

Okay, so the pigtail PN is 68026939AB, and has a male OE WIF sensor plug on one end and a female SDF WIF sensor plug on the other.

The WIF sensor is a PN 391194000, and looks to be the same as the one in the H2O filter.

The new sensors must must run on a different resistance than the OE style, or you wouldn't have to change it.

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So the pigtail is there to allow the OE harness to plug into the new harness in that gray female fitting located at the "Y"

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

Does the OEM and the kit filter W. I. F. sensor look to have the same threads? I removed my W. I. F. sensor from the new filter and the threads look like they may fit. I don"t want to remove the sensor in my truck because it costs $204. 00 to replace (from Dodge). I did find that the 2010 export 5. 9 trucks have a different W. I. F. that costs $29. 00 from Dodge. Maybe its the sensor that comes in the kit? Thanks for the pics and your help.

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

I just checked my filter and the sensor has the same part number on it, but this part number is not on Cummins web parts catalog. The connector parts are available here Terminal Supply Company - Wire Terminal Connectors, Relays, Crimping Tools and Much More - Home . I think I will order another filter and use the W. I. F. sensor from it for the OEM filter and make the harness adapter. Thanks for all your help. Oo.

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

almost forgot, did you still want to sell the fuel lines for the kit?

 

[AH64ID]

Yes I still want to sell the lines, just haven't had the time to get them packaged and a shipping quote, but I will have time Monday. Sorry about the delay.

Good deal on making a harness, shouldn't be too hard.

 

[Gypsyman]

Okay, so the pigtail PN is 68026939AB, and has a male OE WIF sensor plug on one end and a female SDF WIF sensor plug on the other.



The WIF sensor is a PN 391194000, and looks to be the same as the one in the H2O filter.



The new sensors must must run on a different resistance than the OE style, or you wouldn't have to change it.



So the pigtail is there to allow the OE harness to plug into the new harness in that gray female fitting located at the "Y"

The WIF sensor on the Fleetguard filters and stock sensors on the 2007. 5 and newer trucks will cause the WIF light to come on when used on 2007 and older trucks. The newer sensors have an 82k ohm resistor built in so that the ECM can see the sensor on startup. All of the 2007 and older trucks had a simple N/O sensor.



I'm fighting this problem right now on the 2nd gen filter kits I'm trying to release. The only simple solution I've found so far is to add a stand alone WIF light or use an earlier sensor and adapter harness.

 

[EDankievitch]

Sorry that I have not been able to get the instructions emailed to you. The kit had a pigtail that went from the stock harness to the new harness. it also changed the WIF sensor to match the new plug. I don't think there is anything diffrent with the sensor and think you could splice the new harness into the stock harness. The WIF sensor is nothiong more than two probes molded in the plastic plug. The computer needs have the B20 program turned on as it will see a diffrent ohms reading with two sensors on the same harness.

 

[AH64ID]

The WIF sensor on the Fleetguard filters and stock sensors on the 2007. 5 and newer trucks will cause the WIF light to come on when used on 2007 and older trucks. The newer sensors have an 82k ohm resistor built in so that the ECM can see the sensor on startup. All of the 2007 and older trucks had a simple N/O sensor.



I'm fighting this problem right now on the 2nd gen filter kits I'm trying to release. The only simple solution I've found so far is to add a stand alone WIF light or use an earlier sensor and adapter harness.

Interesting. Based on some of our emails I figured you had something up your sleeve.

 

[SHobbs]

Currently I am using the FS 1212 and the FF 5320 on the frame rail, would be nice to have the FS 19823. My factory canister is long gone so it would be nice to have the sensor working again.

 

[AH64ID]

The FS19732 (same as the FS19823, but easier to obtain) should allow you to thread your OE sensor into it with a wiring extension. The sensor that comes with it won't work.

 

[SHobbs]

The fun part would be getting the sensor to not leak and finding the right connectors for the extension. Any idea on what type of connector is used?

 

[AH64ID]

I doubt it would leak, they are o-ring fittings and are designed to thread in/out.

In post 69 there is a link to a place you could get fittings... The only thing I don't know is if the extra wiring will change the resistance enough to get a light without water.

 

[07 ThunderRoad]

The wiring harness part number is #68020643AA.

 

[SHobbs]

Only place to get the harness is from Dodge at $117, no thank ya.