Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Smarty pants

[CFAR]

Does anyone know if the newer Smarty softwares will correct tire size in the stock mode, mine won't.



Does anyone know if the newer Smarty softwares will get rid of the "if the key is on you have 40 psi on the oil gauge" problem.



I had a perfectly good oil pressure gauge, until I installed the smarty.



I cannot tow with the smarty installed, so I remove, then the tire size is incorrect, and the oil pressure is 40 psi, even with the engine off.



It does generate smoke nicely though.

 

[rubberneck]

I haven't tried putting the truck back to stock since installing the smarty, so i cant help you there. Why cant you tow with the smarty? Mine tows better than ever. What setting were you towing in?

 

[CFAR]

I have to go up hills in 5th, and go easy, I have had to go down to 4th a couple times, and this is with a 8-10k load. Usually that is 5th gear 60 mph zone.

I tried the fuel economy setting, what is that 1 or 2, but that setting has a lot of timing, so I tried the one above it, I can do the flat land but the hills kill me.

I can run with my injectors and comp on 1x1 and be cooler in stock than with the smarty.

I don't care about having to go back to stock, except for the tire settings and the oil pressure.

 

[NoSeeUm]

Mine oil pressure reads almost exactly 0 psi with the key on until I start the engine. The Smarty has no effect on oil pressure. Maybe yours is maybe taking a nap during work hours?



You can't tow because you are EGT limited or run out of power? My truck tows fine with all Smarty SW's. (EDIT: I have never used the fuel saver. )



The Smarty will cause smoke at low RPM if you get on it, is yours cleaning up?



Jim

 

[CFAR]

Mine will run pretty clean if I keep the rpm's up, although it does tend to run hot with a load. I don't run out of power. I haven't dyno'd with the smarty, with my old setup, Bully Dog III's and the comp, I seemed to get LESS hot than with the smarty.

I remember there was a problem with some trucks and the oil pressure sensor, so the dealers came out with a fix, they would flash your truck to always see 40 psi, I think the smarty is doing this, it only started when I flashed with the smarty. I turn on the key and I get 40 psi, start truck 40 psi, turn off truck 0 psi. I dyno'd over 400hp with the setup above, so I don't have a power problem, just an air problem. I can go back to my old setup, but then my tire size is f'd up, we should be able to adjust tire size with stock flash. If not I need to spend a few hundred for a corrector to be able to run stock. Why have a stock program if you can't use it.

 

[DCreed]

CFAR- your sig doesnt say uv got 400 hp nor much else . niether does ur profile. its hard to help u that way.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

AS far as being able to use the Smarty tire size adjustment feature while in stock mode, no, not possible - that most likely also applies to the oil pressure issue as well...



Sucks, don't it...

 

[johncameron]

AS far as being able to use the Smarty tire size adjustment feature while in stock mode, no, not possible - that most likely also applies to the oil pressure issue as well... Sucks, don't it...

Hmmm, so that means when I returned my truck to stock I lost the tire size adjustment?? I only made a 4% change but... ... ... Guess I'd better get the GPS out and check.



John

 

[NoSeeUm]

Hmmm, so that means when I returned my truck to stock I lost the tire size adjustment?? I only made a 4% change but... ... ... Guess I'd better get the GPS out and check.



John

Yup... .



Jim

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Hmmm, so that means when I returned my truck to stock I lost the tire size adjustment?? I only made a 4% change but... ... ... Guess I'd better get the GPS out and check.



John

YUP - any time you return Smarty programming to stock, you LOSE any tire size changes you made - and will need to re-program them when you again load one of the non-stock Smarty program levels.



A bummer for guys wanting to run their trucks in special circumstances without any Smarty performance levels loaded... Supposedly the Smarty functions this way due to some propriety security issues, perhaps to prevent Smarty owners from giving away or selling tire size changes to friends - or a safeguard against software piracy/theft, dunno exactly why, but DO wish I was able to load tire size changes ONCE, and not have to bother with it again - and I *do* occasionally want/need to return to stock settings.



Not sure, but one possible solution is to have a DC tech enter the desired tire size info with the Smarty software back to stock - as I understand it, the Smarty will recognize THAT size as "stock", then return to that new tire size any time it is returned again to stock - but of course, DC will usually want $$$ for making the change in tire size...

 

[Bob Wagner]

AS far as being able to use the Smarty tire size adjustment feature while in stock mode, no, not possible - that most likely also applies to the oil pressure issue as well...



Sucks, don't it...

I dont see why we can't offer a very(close) stock program for smarty owners. It would still be a vin locked feature but it would be as close to stock as possible.



Thoughts?

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I dont see why we can't offer a very(close) stock program for smarty owners. It would still be a vin locked feature but it would be as close to stock as possible.



Thoughts?

HMMmm - you mean sorta like having a "stock" Smarty program availble for download that includes at least some of the more popular tire size options - such as the 32. 25 size I have loaded for use with my TOYO M55 285's?



That could work - gives Marco the security HE wants - and still supplies the customer's needs...

 

[Bob Wagner]

Marco only have to do a minor tweak to have a vin locked software. I will talk to Marco on Tuesday.



If there is any other feedback to this please post it up. Thank you

 

[16919]

When are all the second gen updates coming out. You know, that huge thread about the wants and wishes... . most importantly, what is possible?

 

[NDaniels]

When are all the second gen updates coming out. You know, that huge thread about the wants and wishes... . most importantly, what is possible?

Also, I heard a rumor about a hrvp program, any updates?

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Since this particular thread relates to tire size and oil gauge readings, it might carry a bit more weight and relevance if we focused on those 2 issues.



One way to do that, might be to post your specific alternate tire size, as well as whether you are affected by the oil pressure glitch.



In my case, only issue is need for ability to keep my TOYO 285 diameter of 32. 25 even when running Smarty in stock mode.



How many relatively common deviations in tire size are represented by Smarty owners? Are we talking only several different sizes - or several DOZEN

 

[NDaniels]

Since this particular thread relates to tire size and oil gauge readings, it might carry a bit more weight and relevance if we focused on those 2 issues.



One way to do that, might be to post your specific alternate tire size, as well as whether you are affected by the oil pressure glitch.

31. 00", no oil pressure glitch, and no highjack intended.

 

[NoSeeUm]

HMMmm - you mean sorta like having a "stock" Smarty program availble for download that includes at least some of the more popular tire size options - such as the 32. 25 size I have loaded for use with my TOYO M55 285's?



That could work - gives Marco the security HE wants - and still supplies the customer's needs...

Looks like my tires can beat up your tires. Seems my tire size calibration is closer at 32. 50 inches.



Jim

 

[NoSeeUm]

Mine will run pretty clean if I keep the rpm's up, although it does tend to run hot with a load. I don't run out of power. I haven't dyno'd with the smarty, with my old setup, Bully Dog III's and the comp, I seemed to get LESS hot than with the smarty.

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I cannot tow with the smarty installed, so I remove, then the tire size is incorrect, and the oil pressure is 40 psi, even with the engine off.



It does generate smoke nicely though.

CFAR;



These two comments are not making much sense together. Running hot is a given when pulling a heavy load too fast with a bombed (or even stock) engine. If not EGT, then oil or coolant temperatures will often be limiting.



From my experience when towing with the Smarty. My truck could get somewhat ahead on fuel (EGT), and the air (boost) could not catch back up to push EGT down. This is because Smarty fueling is pretty agressive. This was especially true if I tried to accelerate when I was already pulling a grade. A big reason I went with twins. My twins can sustain a fuel surge with out EGT skyrocketing and still be able to supply enough boost to push the EGT back down once I get to the speed I want.



In your case, using the Comp vs Smarty, I would think the Comp might be limiting the fueling rate on the fuel surge so you are not having as much of an EGT issue a bit later down the road. Sounds like the Comp would work better for you towing?



Do you think there is a problem or just dis-satisfaction with how the Smarty SW is performing as compared to how you would like it to perform? I was thinking you had other problems but it seems you have your base covered pretty well.



Sounds like Marco and Bob might fix the tire size issue. Maybe they could also fix your oil pressure reflash issue.



Good Luck;

Jim