Smarty, the new CaTCHER tool.

[DarrellB]

Can someone give me some help here?



I'm not too good with computers and can't figure out where to save the files to update my Smarty. I've tried but then once I go to use them I can't get to them on my computer. I have windows XP if that helps.



Thanks

DB

 

[CMullen]

you may want to create a folder called smarty under my documents save the files there and then you'll know where to look for them when updating the programmer, otherwise save them to your desktop

 

[CMullen]

I had posted a question a couple of pages back, how does the Smarty go undetected by the dealer? How does it maintain things the dealer looks for, if now how just does it or not

 

[Mad Bomber]

Can someone give me some help here?



I'm not too good with computers and can't figure out where to save the files to update my Smarty. I've tried but then once I go to use them I can't get to them on my computer. I have windows XP if that helps.



Thanks

DB

Send the Smarty to me I'll do it for you LOL :-laf

 

[Bob Wagner]

I had posted a question a couple of pages back, how does the Smarty go undetected by the dealer? How does it maintain things the dealer looks for, if now how just does it or not

I believe this information is marco's secret

 

[Boondocker]

HO motor and advanced timing

ThrottleJockey - Thanks for chiming in on the timing discussion. Your opinion agrees with my sentiments about advanced timing. Without a way to measure cylinder pressure under load conditions, I can only say that advanced timing just doesn't feel right, more responsive throttle yes, but the engine just doesn't sound good. In Hohn's defense, he has spoken out against timing advance, especially for the HO motors, more often than not. I interpreted his comment differently. That is, the HO motor is designed for higher compression, including a differently timed VP44, than the SO motor, therefore better able to handle more timing advance than the SO. However, advancing timing much more than stock on an HO motor is riskier.



I felt this way when I ran an Edge EZ, same when I went to the Comp, and the same, if not more so, running any odd-numbered SMARTY programs. The huge advantage with SMARTY is that you can run the even-numbered, non-timing programs. I really like these programs better, even though the throttle response isn't as sharp. I've tried program #9 twice and quit it after one run, both times. Even though having big low-end power is fun, I can't use it without making big clouds of smoke. Smoke is bad advertising for diesels, so I prefer not to make it. Now I'm in the process of experimenting to find the most usable setting for my tastes. One setting for daily driving and probably another (lower setting) for towing. I only tow occasionally, but in the 17-18 K gross range.



As for the fuel-saver program, which seems to have the most timing advance of all the programs, I think this would be good for longer highway trips, empty, when you are driving in an economical style (low load, low boost, low temps).



Regards,

Neil

 

[BHight]

mileage

Here's a report back folks:

I have logged 2 tankfuls with smarty on #8 with EZ stacked. My hand calculated mileage shows mileage at 19. 6.

Yes indeed, it has been difficult NOT utilising the fun factor of #8 :-laf

I have yet tried the "fuel saver" #2 program.

I probly won't either as #8 has made this truck totally different to drive!! Oo. Oo. Oo.

I have no, none, nada complaints what-so-ever with this fine product!!

For now, I have stock injectors and E-Z w/boost elbow and on #8 generate max boost of 28 lbs.

Empty:

With #8, the egt. s run 75 deg. cooler on the flat @ cruise.

#8 up-hill runs 100 deg. cooler. I no longer need to "drive by the pyro" near as much. Yes, I still pay attention to the pyro.

With just the EZ, the truck would de-fuel @ 2700 rpm.

Now, with #8, it pulls until I decide when to let off

Like I said (and it is suggested in the paperwork sent w/ Smarty) I have had to "re-learn" how to drive this truck again.

I will NOT be selling this "go-fast" part as long as I have this truck!!! :-laf

 

[HeavyHauler]

Guys I finally got my Smarty! These goofs down here in Memphis closed our mail room Friday due to "inclement weather" before I could go down there and get the Smarty. Anyway, SW #9 loaded up with no problems, but I'm covered up the rest of the week so it will probably be Thursday or Friday before I can take it out for a test drive.



Hopefully #9 won't be too radical for the Mach 5s. We'll see.

 

[darkhorse]

I just bet you will be all using sw#9 with those Mach 5 shower heads.

 

[Marco]

Hey Richard how are you doing?



I would have send you an E-Mail today. Having not heard from you... I was worried about you buddy!



HH,

you have a cam, I don't. :{

Your spinny thing is waaaayyyy better than mine. :{ :{

BUT I run Don's stage six sticks. :-laf

No problem at all!

You'll LOVE it!



Marco

 

[HeavyHauler]

HH,

you have a cam, I don't. :{

Your spinny thing is waaaayyyy better than mine. :{ :{

BUT I run Don's stage six sticks. :-laf

No problem at all!

You'll LOVE it!



Marco

Marco, you just had to show me up somewhere didn't you? :-laf I can't wait to try it out. I can't believe how easy it loaded. Usually no matter how great the product is, I'm the one person that always has problems! But not this time! Thanks for giving us a quality product, Marco!



darkhorse - I hope you get back on the road soon man, CTD or not. I wish you a speedy recovery.

 

[darkhorse]

looking up

Hey Richard how are you doing?



I would have send you an E-Mail today. Having not heard from you... I was worried about you buddy!



HH,

you have a cam, I don't. :{

Your spinny thing is waaaayyyy better than mine. :{ :{

BUT I run Don's stage six sticks. :-laf

No problem at all!

You'll LOVE it!



Marco

Thanks for all the good words!! I'm healing up pretty good. The doctors say I'll be as good as new in 3 months. My poor truck didn't do so good. I'm shopping for a replacement now. If I get lucky maybe I'll find another one like it. I'll still be the guy with the "wimpy" sticks though. 3. 8s are enough for a light weight like me. Hey, Marco, is there a way to unlock my Smarty from the VIN# without plugging into my bent truck. I'd sure like to take it along when I go for test rides. I might startle a few car salesmen. :-laf

 

[JKinney]

I just ran through one tank on #1. My mileage prior to smarty was 17. 3 the overhead said I was averaging 19. 5 on #1 for that tank, hand calc revealed 17. 3 My truck is a stock HO 4. 10 rearend. I really nursed that tank of fuel, it was on back roads, major, minor single lane roads with hills. Exhaust temp averaged 620 deg.



At fill up I set smarty on #8 Took a run to the next town and back played with the throttle a few times Loved the instant boost and also how the boost appears to be maxed with minimum pedal overhead is reading 21. 9 when I shut her down. Exhaust temp is averaging 520



I don't own any other boxes, I did try #9 and liked it, but am following the thread closely and am going to run a couple tanks on 8 and enjoy some fun factor.



Should I get a boost elbow? would it do anything?

 

[Marco]

Dear Mr. Wimpy Sticks :-laf :-laf :-laf

( Which one is the first name??? )



I'm sorry to inform you that there's no way to unlock Smarty from a VIN# other than going back to stock in the truck he has been locked to. Not even here @ MADS electronics can we do that. The only way to "unlock" Smarty is to totaly erase both the firmware and the performance files. Then Smarty will need a complete reflash.

Sorry for the inconvenience, bla , bla ,bla, bla... .



Richard, send me your Smarty over, who knows maybe you'd get a complete production unit back? OPS... . :-laf

To tell you the truth, when I first saw the pics of your truck, I wondered IF it was reasonably ( $$$ ) fixable.



Anyway, a speedy recorvery is what you need now. The CTD fun can wait for now.



Marco

 

[Boondocker]

JKinney,



A boost elbow is probably a good idea, it's standard equipment on some brands of power adders. It will raise boost pressure from a stock ~22-psi to ~28-psi. Check the classifieds under member basement enterprises for adjustable boost elbow.



I've seen 35-psi on my "elbowed", stock HX-35, which is too much boost to do any good on that turbo. Bear in mind that I have F1 Mach 1. 6 injectors (nominally rated at 85-90 RWHP on an HO truck). I can only go a little bigger on the turbo and keep my elbow-mounted exhaust brake. It's on the long wish list



Neil

 

[darkhorse]

Dear Mr. Wimpy Sticks :-laf :-laf :-laf

( Which one is the first name??? )



I

Richard, send me your Smarty over, who knows maybe you'd get a complete production unit back? OPS... . :-laf

To tell you the truth, when I first saw the pics of your truck, I wondered IF it was reasonably ( $$$ ) fixable.



Anyway, a speedy recorvery is what you need now. The CTD fun can wait for now.



Marco

Okay I'll send Smarty back but first I'm going to see if I can get a young agile friend to climb into my old truck & plug Smarty in to set it back to stock. Bent up as the truck is, I didn't break any lights & the dome light still comes on when the passenger door is opened. The batteries may still be good for an other down load or two.



I'm mending pretty quick but bones grow slow. I've got about 3 months of R&R before I can drive again, or ride my horse for that matter, but I'm going to have a little CTD fun in the mean time, just finding a new rig & getting a few "special" parts moved from the wreck to that new ride. I'm a happy man to have these problems 'cuz I know how close I came to only being able to push up daisies this spring. Looks to me like I was saved by God's grace again.

 

[darkhorse]

JKinney,





I've seen 35-psi on my "elbowed", stock HX-35, which is too much boost to do any good on that turbo. Bear in mind that I have F1 Mach 1. 6 injectors (nominally rated at 85-90 RWHP on an HO truck). I can only go a little bigger on the turbo and keep my elbow-mounted exhaust brake. It's on the long wish list



Neil

Niel, 35 psi is the upper limit with the stock HX 35. If you are not going over that you are fine. I was able to peg my 35 psi gauge with just a CaTCHER & Don's 1. 5's. So if you are running an adjustable boos elbow. make sure you have it set to limit you to that 35 psi.

 

[JRagland]

Okay, I have a Smarty question I have not seen discussed.



Since Smarty can apply practically any software to our ECM that it wants or has in it, can we use Smarty to make our HO ECMs communicate with a SO VP44? It may require a special download to do, but it seems like it would be possible. I know Smarty in VIN coded which would mean that it knows it should only download HO software to a HO ECM, but a software program may be able to get around this? This would allow us with HO trucks to replace the VP44 with a fuctioning used SO VP44 and gain the fueling of SO trucks without a $1600 HR-VP44.



Just a thought, and it didn't last long.

 

[Mr. C]

Thanks Marco and Bob,

There was a surprise in the mailbox today Oo. Oo. Oo.

No problems with the 1st download ( went for #9, I just can't help myself ) I'll go for a spin tomorrow.





Marco, just wondering why the top right pin on the OBDII plug is twisted??

 

[NoSeeUm]

I got my Smarty today. First thing I did was check DTC's and I did not have any. Next thing was SW9 and a test drive. So far I love it. Power rolls on and stays on. You get you some foot peddle to play with getting it there. Unlike the Banks Stinger which rolled hard torque with about 1/2 inch of foot into it. More like stock the way power rolls on, just rolls on with more power.



SW9 over the stock engine (which mine is) has no place where it goes "Uh what" and gets harder to rev after that. Maximum boost went from 22 psi to about 25 psi under hard acceleration. The engine just keeps revving and in my case 100+ mph maybe a bit fast when I backed off (what the heck, a co-worker in an F350). But you have to get over that part for sure with any new mod.



It did throw a code. I'm not sure when, but I noticed it after I pulled out of my driveway and headed down the street. The code was P0602 - ECM "non-stock" fueling calibration error. No one has mentioned codes after Smarty so it has me wondering whats up. Any clues about that?



Jim