somebody fried a engine!

[WDimig]

well not me! anyway, had a 3rd gen truck come in the shop today, was busy workin on another truck, but they were still workin on it when i was leaving, went over and took a lookie to see what was goin on. talked to the tech, said had some bad engine noises, come to find out the oil filter had all kinds of metal in it, i had never seen a filter with soo many metal particle's in it :--) . anyway was looking the engine over, when i glanced a pre turbo pyrometer..... hmmmm suspicous looked a litte bit harder, hmm found some velcro tape on the fuse cover in the engine bay... . hmmmmm... looked at the air filter, noticed that the stock housing was not secured to the vehichle, as in it was just sitting in there loose... hmmmm..... looked inside the cab, no display or gauges, but found what looks like a wire harness bundled up under the steering wheel lower pannel... ... . hmmmmmmm... ... . looked at the exhaust, it was clean, but that little ridge under the rear quaterpannel was completely covered in black soot! hmmm. soo the owner had a box/chip on the truck and possibly a air intake and tried to cover thier tracks in order to get a new engine. as far as i know the engine is still under warranty, it's an 05' cause it has the plastic end tanks on the intercooler! i hope that this customer's intent is not to get a new engine under warranty, cause there is more than obvious signs of engine modifications. ohh well hope its nobody on here... ...



wes

 

[RobertP]

well not me! anyway, had a 3rd gen truck come in the shop today, was busy workin on another truck, but they were still workin on it when i was leaving, went over and took a lookie to see what was goin on. talked to the tech, said had some bad engine noises, come to find out the oil filter had all kinds of metal in it, i had never seen a filter with soo many metal particle's in it :--) . anyway was looking the engine over, when i glanced a pre turbo pyrometer..... hmmmm suspicous looked a litte bit harder, hmm found some velcro tape on the fuse cover in the engine bay... . hmmmmm... looked at the air filter, noticed that the stock housing was not secured to the vehichle, as in it was just sitting in there loose... hmmmm..... looked inside the cab, no display or gauges, but found what looks like a wire harness bundled up under the steering wheel lower pannel... ... . hmmmmmmm... ... . looked at the exhaust, it was clean, but that little ridge under the rear quaterpannel was completely covered in black soot! hmmm. soo the owner had a box/chip on the truck and possibly a air intake and tried to cover thier tracks in order to get a new engine. as far as i know the engine is still under warranty, it's an 05' cause it has the plastic end tanks on the intercooler! i hope that this customer's intent is not to get a new engine under warranty, cause there is more than obvious signs of engine modifications. ohh well hope its nobody on here... ...



wes

you got a good eye wes.

 

[BSwope]

The velcro was for a tool pouch! :-laf

 

[MMeier]

Thats why I always carried a "spare" fuse box cover ! Never had to use it though, anyone need one, think I paid $28 for it at the ******* back in 2003.

 

[rbattelle]

See? Techs are not necessarily oblivious. They know what's going on.



If you call the owner out on his modifications and deny his warranty I promise you he'll curse you and Dodge to his grave for denying his warranty for "no reason at all" with no proof that he did anything wrong.



Ryan

 

[WPeschel]

well not me! anyway, had a 3rd gen truck come in the shop today, was busy workin on another truck, but they were still workin on it when i was leaving, went over and took a lookie to see what was goin on. talked to the tech, said had some bad engine noises, come to find out the oil filter had all kinds of metal in it, i had never seen a filter with soo many metal particle's in it :--) . anyway was looking the engine over, when i glanced a pre turbo pyrometer..... hmmmm suspicous looked a litte bit harder, hmm found some velcro tape on the fuse cover in the engine bay... . hmmmmm... looked at the air filter, noticed that the stock housing was not secured to the vehichle, as in it was just sitting in there loose... hmmmm..... looked inside the cab, no display or gauges, but found what looks like a wire harness bundled up under the steering wheel lower pannel... ... . hmmmmmmm... ... . looked at the exhaust, it was clean, but that little ridge under the rear quaterpannel was completely covered in black soot! hmmm. soo the owner had a box/chip on the truck and possibly a air intake and tried to cover thier tracks in order to get a new engine. as far as i know the engine is still under warranty, it's an 05' cause it has the plastic end tanks on the intercooler! i hope that this customer's intent is not to get a new engine under warranty, cause there is more than obvious signs of engine modifications. ohh well hope its nobody on here... ...



wes

I hope they put a new engine in it on dodges dime..... :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf





Did you rat on him????

 

[DrDiesel]

HMMMMMMMMMMM. Can you prove that what you have found caused the damage found.

If you can`t prove it, you should be very careful with your statements on the Internet..... :{

Sound`s like a case for litigation in a court of law... . Now you have posted this info and could be held liable for your statements.

I would not post any further info on this customers truck.

I`m not trying to be a smart arse either, just some good advise.

 

[24V-DSL]

Hold on.....



gotta make some popcorn and keep an eye on this one. Could be fun.

 

[hammersley]

Good Advice.......

HMMMMMMMMMMM. Can you prove that what you have found caused the damage found.

If you can`t prove it, you should be very careful with you statements on the Internet..... :{

Sound`s like a case for litigation in a court of law... . Now you have posted this info and could be held liable for your statements.

I would not post any further info on this customers truck.

I`m not trying to be a smart arse either, just some good advise.

Unfortunately the above is true... ... ... ... .

 

[Signal73]

Hold on.....



gotta make some popcorn and keep an eye on this one. Could be fun.

Here ya go. #ad
:-laf

 

[WDimig]

well the fact that he knows that something happend to his engine scared him enough to take the engine modifications off, soo i guess he thinks that the techs are just going to be a bunch of iditos and overlook that issue. i guess he didnt figure that one of the techs working there knew anything about how to modify these engines. i dont have proof yet, but the sole fact alone that the engine was modified is enough to point a finger, in not going to "rat" anyone out, they only thing that upsets me is somebody out there knew when they put that box/chip on their engine that they are responsible for thier actions. but when you go and "try" to hide that there was no engine modifications when an engine problem arises, well that just upsets me. own up to what you did, and dont try and hide it. im not sure if the owner was trying to hide it, but he sure didn't do a good enough job if he was. off rant.



wes

 

[Kry226]

well the fact that he knows that something happend to his engine scared him enough to take the engine modifications off, soo i guess he thinks that the techs are just going to be a bunch of iditos and overlook that issue. i guess he didnt figure that one of the techs working there knew anything about how to modify these engines. i dont have proof yet, but the sole fact alone that the engine was modified is enough to point a finger, in not going to "rat" anyone out, they only thing that upsets me is somebody out there knew when they put that box/chip on their engine that they are responsible for thier actions. but when you go and "try" to hide that there was no engine modifications when an engine problem arises, well that just upsets me. own up to what you did, and dont try and hide it. im not sure if the owner was trying to hide it, but he sure didn't do a good enough job if he was. off rant.



wes

Not to mention the fact that this is part of the reason why these danged trucks are so expensive. You bomb it, you break it, get DC to warranty it, we ALL PAY in the form of higher prices. AND it's not so easy to get blatant warranty work done any more.

 

[RobertP]

DC will not pay for cummins to put the engine in anyway. at least not in this area. all i can say that from what i've seen from DC as soon as the rep does look at it and sees the velcro and or the soot. that warranty will ge gone.



Robert

 

[DMcPherson]

screw it, I hope he does get an engine just for the people who honestly have NO mods and get denied warranty for suspicion of aftermarket parts. the dealer diddnt want to fix anything on my truck when it was stock.

and the above is true, there is the possibility that the failure had nothing to do wiht the afterparket performance parts, but the owner being aware of how chrysler operates figured he would remove the parts before being denied warranty right off the bat, before chrysler even made an attempt to diagnose or resolve the issue.

when my truck goes in for repairs that have nothing to do with the powertrain I take everything off knowing damn well that if its seen the dealer wont do anything on my truck.

Also working for Cummins I have had horor stories about chrysler on stock vehicles and have even had vehicles towed to our shop out of chrysler because they wouldent warranty parts. Sad but true. I hope he gets everything he can

 

[jnelson]

the truck owner should have taken more precautions than he did for such a serious case. take all the wiring harnesses out, put just a egt gauge in (not against warranty), cleaned engine compartment thoroughly, gotten rid of the excessicve amount of soot on the rear quarter panel. c'mon you got to cover your tracks.



Or find a dealer that beleives DC has got more money than all of us and get it fixed under waranty Even if your mileage is out. I did.



Friend of mine had a $1200 steering problem at 120,000+ miles. his truck had never been to a dealer, so the dealer put it in the computer at under 36,000 and got it done under warranty. He even left his Predator chip in but unplugged.

 

[LEPage]

from the thread "2003 Transfer Pumps"

"Furthermore, the Dodge dealership said the truck has 80K... which is good. However it was traded in because it needed "all new injectors because the previous owner used dyed fuel in the engine". Which obviously seems rediculous to me. I need to get to the bottom of what really happened. I need to speak with the diesel tech and not the sales folks. " "Forgot to mention... I was glad to see 80K on the clock for warranty reasons. However... since the previous owner did something to foul the injectors/pump whatever, Dodge voided the warranty so the window sticker says 1000 mile 50%/50% parts/labor on the drivetrain. Thats not good. It sure looks nice however. "

Typical D/C bullcrap excuses to deny cverage. Hope he gets them for all he can.

 

[DMcPherson]

with all th einjector failures there have been in these trucks I wouldent be surprised if they tried to get out of another one. I have personally seen STOCK trucks with failed injectors that had internal engine damage denied warranty because of suspicion. chrysler is a sneaky sleazy company if you ask me, and get out of whatever they can.



i had a customer that was denied warranty because his cylinders were worn? chrysler never even pulled the bottom end appart, they said there was excessive space between the piston and cylinder, without pulling them and measuring them! the customerowns a machine shop and insisted on coming down and measuring the cylinders with a dial bore gauge and measuring the pistons after getting the specs from me. and they wouldent let him, denied all warranty, and made him pay to reasemble his truck to take it to someone more competant shice he was paying anyway.

 

[DieselFiend]

Not to mention the fact that this is part of the reason why these danged trucks are so expensive. You bomb it, you break it, get DC to warranty it, we ALL PAY in the form of higher prices. AND it's not so easy to get blatant warranty work done any more.

These trucks are not nearly as expensive as the Fords or Chevy's. I paid 31k for mine. For the same options I got, I'd have to pay at least 40k for a brand new chevy or ford. Lets be a little more realistic.

 

[DieselFiend]

DC will not pay for cummins to put the engine in anyway. at least not in this area. all i can say that from what i've seen from DC as soon as the rep does look at it and sees the velcro and or the soot. that warranty will ge gone.



Robert

Had to reply to this one too. Mines stock right now, and I've got soot all over my lower panel. That doesn't mean I'm modded because I'm not.

 

[RobertP]

im just speaking of what ive seen in the past from chrysler at the dealership i work at. most the time they come out with a chip on there shoulder anyway. and even getting the to come out takes weeks in the first place. im sure you have seen whats done to my truck so i wouldnt even think of voiding anyones warranty myself but once chrysler is involed i have no say.



Robert