Sport Light Conversion revisited......

[tntway]

congrats sixspeed....

i'm still waiting for my lights... should be here this week. good to know that herb's directions work, but after watching his posts for quite some time, i have no doubt.

 

[Sixspeed]

sportlight

tntway, one other thing give yourself all day to do the switch. It's not that hard of a job just takes time to do a good job.



Les

PS I only hooked up one of the 9004 wires

 

[RJ2]

Where did you guys get your sport lights, and does anyone have pictures of the installation and cutout. I take it we need to get an extra socket for the 9007 bulb , 2 relays, and some 12 gauge wire. I know you have to cut out some metal but other than that do the lights bolt up and fit properly in the 97,s.



Thanks RJ

 

[redneckdr]

sport lights ..............

are available from www.headlightwarehouse.com. i don't know, but doubt that the 9007 sockets come with the units. they are available from www.suvlights.com with no wire pigtails.

 

[tntway]

update from headlight warehouse....

the lights have been backordered for a couple of months i was told after calling to see where mine were. i was told that i fell thru the cracks and wasn't notified . oh well, such is life.

i tried the local stealer but they want $217 A PIECE for them...



the sockets do not come with the light from the headlight warehouse. i asked about that today too.



i'll be waiting another couple of weeks i guess, but i'd like to thank all of you for the help and advice in advance.

 

[RJ2]

Went to that suvlights site and couldn't help but notice the HID lights are about half what they were 6 months ago. Kinda makes we wonder if I should wait and see if someone is going to make bolt on HID's at an attractive price.

 

[redneckdr]

switched ground trucks

i have been told by a couple of members now that 99 trucks had the switched ground control of the lights. my previous information had said that the switched ground control started in Y2K. if you have a 99 truck, and plan to use instructions i sent you on a '99 truck, check the wires to the "A" pins on the sockets on both sides. if the wires are different color coded, (violet on left, and violet/red on the right), then you have switched ground control. the only difference in the two setups is the control of the relays, but won't work if the polarity of the control of the relays isn't correct. questions, PM me.

 

[Un-Hemi]

Hey, Jim, how's the new harness?



Herb, any truck that has a rotary headlight switch instead of the old push-pull type switch has the switched ground system. I noticed that in an earlier post you mention that the locking tabs on the bulbs are different. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks.



Tom

 

[redneckdr]

locking tabs

tom, the sockets will interchange on the contacts on 9004 and 9007 bulbs... ... BUT..... the internal wiring of the bulbs is different. on the 9004 bulbs, the "A" wire is "common" to both filaments. on switched 12v+ trucks, that is the ground wire. on switched ground trucks, that wire is constant 12v+ (even with the switch off). on 9007 bulbs, the "B" wire is "common"--same explanation as the "common" on the 9004 bulbs. you can see, that if you interchange a bulb in a socket, it won't perform right. to prevent you from doing that, the locking tabs are a different pattern. even if you inter change a 9007 bulb where you have a 9004 bulb, it won't go in the headlight unit, and seat, and therefore, the lock ring won't lock. if you have a chance to look at the two bulbs, look at the way the locking tabs are placed around the circumference of the bulbs.

soooo... ... ... if you are looking for a replacement socket, a 9007 will work for a 9004--just wire it as follows: 9004's "A" is common; "B" is low beam; and "C" is high beam. on 9007's "A" is low beam; "B" is "common"; and "C" is high beam. IF you are working on a switched ground truck, the "common" will be constant 12v+. IF you are working on a swiched 12v+ truck, "common" will be ground. i always suggest grounding back to batt (-). also, ALWAYS use the same gage wire or BIGGER to ground. this is especially true where you will be lighting two filaments in a bulb. remember, the ground has to carry the same current as the supply, to complete the circuit, and make the filament light up.

sorry for the length of the post... ... ...

herb

 

[BCFAST]

OK, now Im REALLY confused! I just returned from the auto parts store(s) on my way home from work, trying to assemble all the parts for this comming weekend. I bought 9004 sockets for my 9007 bulbs (all they had). Do you mean they wont work? Do I need to reverse a couple wires to make it work?



Brian

 

[tntway]

???????

ok so where do we get the heavy duty sockets. if i have to get pre-wired, can i re-wire them myself? all the local places had cheesey looking pre-wired 9004's. can't find the 9007's... ... .

 

[redneckdr]

sockets/bulbs

there are no locking tabs on the sockets, or the internal plug on the bulb. the locking tabs are on the outside, and have nothing to do with the electrical socket. you can plug a 9007 bulb onto a 9004 socket. won't light correctly--wiring is wrong, if the socket is wired for a 9004 bulb. if you persist, you can't install it in the light unit, because of the external tabs on the bulb, around the outside of the base, not the inside or socket. 9004 and 9007 SOCKETS are interchangeable, but must be wired correctly. did i confuse you further?? look at the bulbs. the electrical parts are identical in appearance, and will plug into the wrong socket, ie the SOCKETS THEMSELVES are identical. the wires must be hooked up as above for the bulb to function correctly. buy whichever sockets you can find, just wire them correctly for the bulb you will be using.

 

[redneckdr]

heavy duty sockets....

without wire pigtails are supposedly available from www.suvlights.com for $5 ea, without wires. i haven't yet ordered mine, so can't speak from experience. the e-mail they sent me said the sockets will accept 14 ga wire crimped, and 12 ga wire soldered. 12 ga soldered would be best for this app.

 

[dezeldog]

"THE" Harness

Tom I haven't heard a word. I'm going to have to give Rick a call and see what's up with the replacement. I'll keep you guys posted. Jim

 

[DTAUG]

I have posted this info several times but no one seems to pick up on it. This guy has heavy duty sport light wiring harnesses and heavy duty sockets for up to 10 ga. wire. Check him out. His price quotes to me seemed very reasonable:



http://lighting.mbz.org/products/

 

[tntway]

dtaug.....

if he's got the sockets in stock i'm in business. can't find the 9007 sockets anywhere... ...

 

[Un-Hemi]

AH! Thanks, DTAUG. Stern's lighting hardware kits are buried in the price list; that's why nobody noticed it before. Says it's all Hella-made stuff so it should be high quality. Others should note that the kits come WITHOUT wire; you supply your own.



http://lighting.mbz.org/prices/



Hardware kits are about 2 pages down right after Cibie Headlamps.



tntway, the sockets are the same for the 9007s and 9004s. The only thing that's different is how the pigtails (if the sockets have them) are hooked up.



Tom

 

[tntway]

WOO HOO!!!!!

my lights came fed ex today!!!! checked 'em out and they look ok...



now i just gotta get the sockets and i'll be GTG (good to go). thanks for the heads up on this other place guys..... he has 'em in stock at $13 a piece. i'll be ordering on monday.

Oo. Oo. Oo. Oo. Oo. Oo. Oo. Oo.

 

[RJ2]

How about taking some pics along the way.

 

[RT66DOC]

I don't have to drive much at night but when I do I sure would like a little more light. Not much into the sport light conversion (cost vs need). Isn't there a different bulb that fits the stock set-up and provides at least a few more rays?