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need 5th wheel towed from livingston tx to green bay wis

tandersen said:
Grizzly I agree with you. Also it's still one tire, if it blows hang on to your %$#!





I have heard that if you should blow an inside dually, it could cause the outside tire to also blow. Is there truth to this.
 
I suppose if you kept going it would. But if it blows you would hear it and assume have sense enough to slow down and make a safe stop.
 
Grizzly said:
blacksheep4x4 said:
as far as stability goes I believe a srw with a 33x12. 50 tire w/load range E feels way more stable than a dually. Especially when it's not loaded. To me duallys feel like they are all over the road constantly getting pulled into the ruts bigrigs wear into the road surfaces.



I completely disagree with what you are saying here. How can any SRW be more stable than a DRW? I have never heard such nonsense.



Your duals try to track with the rut in the road and is harder to get out of them ,because you have more tires to try and get out of them! Call it what you want, but I use what my experience has shown me to be best. I drive through all types of climates and terrains (try running a dually up a icy mountain pass) And yes one dual wheel can take out the one beside it. A wider single tire is more stable and is the reason big trucks are starting to run super singles. I have run both duals and singles and know what I am talking about and will not be critsized by someone who is ignorant and pulls a trailer once in awhile! I pull them five days a week every week!
 
blacksheep4x4 I have never had a blowout pulling a fifth wheel or a trailer but with a truck camper and your weight up high I will keep my dually. Just the facts from my experience.
 
tandersen said:
blacksheep4x4 I have never had a blowout pulling a fifth wheel or a trailer but with a truck camper and your weight up high I will keep my dually. Just the facts from my experience.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Just don't like people telling me that what I know from experience is nonsense.
 
tandersen said:
Not my opinion, my experience, as was yours.

Your experience is with campers mine is with trailers. Did I say it was with trailer almost on a daily basis? I believe she is wanting to tow a trailer not haul a camper.
 
Well you are looking for an argument. Have you had a blowout hauling trailers? Do you haul fifth wheels? I have experienced duals following ruts in the road with both srw and drw. I am discussing safety factors. What is your safety factor? Your ego won't help. I have driven every kind of light to medium duty truck in my job and personal life. So what? I am not arguing your knowledge or experience, I am stating my "experience", nothing more.
 
blacksheep4x4 said:
Grizzly said:
Your duals try to track with the rut in the road and is harder to get out of them ,because you have more tires to try and get out of them! Call it what you want, but I use what my experience has shown me to be best. I drive through all types of climates and terrains (try running a dually up a icy mountain pass) And yes one dual wheel can take out the one beside it. A wider single tire is more stable and is the reason big trucks are starting to run super singles. I have run both duals and singles and know what I am talking about and will not be critsized by someone who is ignorant and pulls a trailer once in awhile! I pull them five days a week every week!



Good Post ;)
 
I'm thinking we should hold out for a dually with a 4:10. Any help or opinions are appreciated!!



My two cents is you would do fine with the 3. 73 instead of going for the 4. 10s.



I'm willing to bet if you get a SRW you will be hocking it off on a DRW soon enough. Might as well put out a few extra bucks and get what you want the first time around.



Most of the folk carrying on about SRWs probably own SRWs and are trying to justify or defend them or may be plumb "ignoran"t. :rolleyes: Even if duals track a rut differently than singles it isn't something that someone looking to haul a TT would be concerned about. I often haul a loaded horse trailer with a dually or a single and can't say the dual handles worse than the single. Oh, we have mountain passes hereabouts too.



Also trailers differ, i. e. pulling a snowmachine trailer every day of the week isn't the same as pulling a gooseneck horse trailer, a car hauler, a bumperhitch flatbed, a gooseneck flatbed, or a fiver TT.
 
Thanks guys for all your input! I won!! We are ordering a 1ton DRW with 4:10. Dealer gave us just as good a deal on it, cause he wants our 2000 with just over 45000 miles on it and has ALWAYS been very well taken care of. So thanks again for all your help.





Marla
 
tandersen said:
Well you are looking for an argument. Have you had a blowout hauling trailers? Do you haul fifth wheels? I have experienced duals following ruts in the road with both srw and drw. I am discussing safety factors. What is your safety factor? Your ego won't help. I have driven every kind of light to medium duty truck in my job and personal life. So what? I am not arguing your knowledge or experience, I am stating my "experience", nothing more.



My ego has nothing to do with it. Not looking for an argument somebody else fired the first shot. If you read my posts carefully you will see they do say I tow fifth wheels and tts. My safety factor is to ensure all tires are in good condition and properly aired up. I have had a few blow outs usually on customers trailer that hasn't been taken care of (tires in poor condition). I have never had a blow out on any of my trucks ( due to proper tire care and inspection). Just wanted to post my experience without somebody getting pissy about it.
 
Ol'TrailDog said:
My two cents is you would do fine with the 3. 73 instead of going for the 4. 10s.



I'm willing to bet if you get a SRW you will be hocking it off on a DRW soon enough. Might as well put out a few extra bucks and get what you want the first time around.



Most of the folk carrying on about SRWs probably own SRWs and are trying to justify or defend them or may be plumb "ignoran"t. :rolleyes: Even if duals track a rut differently than singles it isn't something that someone looking to haul a TT would be concerned about. I often haul a loaded horse trailer with a dually or a single and can't say the dual handles worse than the single. Oh, we have mountain passes hereabouts too.



Also trailers differ, i. e. pulling a snowmachine trailer every day of the week isn't the same as pulling a gooseneck horse trailer, a car hauler, a bumperhitch flatbed, a gooseneck flatbed, or a fiver TT.



Not trying to justify or defend my SRWs. I've owned dual wheel trucks as well. Just don't care for them much and can't justify paying for the extra tires. Thier traction also is poor on icy roads imo and experience. Wheels tracking in ruts is something sombody towing a TT should be concerned about. It's nerve racking when you want to go one way and the truck wants to go another. I've only towed one snow machine trailer. I mostly do fifth wheels and TTs. I also haul cars with a 40' goose and a 53' low pro. Not ignorant like you think! Just experienced.
 
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I won!! We are ordering a 1ton DRW with 4:10.



Yippee Yahooo!!! DRWs win again. Edit: Opps better delete that. No sense being a flamer . :-laf



I'd suggest test driving a 3. 73 and 4. 10s before the plunge. Quite a few folks end up swapping out the 4. 10s. Myself included in the near future (the 3. 55s are sitting in the garage). The is especially true if it's going to be a G56 six speed. The 3. 73 behind the NV5600 sixer has been my favorite combo thus far.
 
Just as info.

I rode in a friend's late model FlowerPoke auto 3. 73 yesterday and his is turning the same RPM as my new 2006 CTD 48re 4. 10 at 70 mph.



CUMMINZ
 
This thread went downhill early with the DRW vs SRW and the old "If you don't believe what *I* believe you are obviously too stupid to understand. " I've been a TDR member for 10 years and I've seen a lot of "Wars" and this is the latest one. It's got a way to go before it approaches the old transmission wars but it's getting there. Modern tires are pretty strong and blowouts are rare. If you choose what you need and you are not overloaded, it's your choice. Maybe you are slightly safer with extra tires, why not put duals on the front too? A front blowout is more dangerous than a rear. Might as well wear a crash helmet too and wear a styrofoam suit. In fact if you want to be really safe, stay home.



Sorry for the rant but we don't learn much from "The bonfires of the vanities" and I prefer honest discussion. Yeah, I have a SRW but I'm not trying to justify it or sell it to you, it works for me and is not overloaded. I chose it because it fits my particular needs and fits them well. If you understand all the load ratings and decide you need a dually by all means get one but don't call me stupid if don't do exactly as you do.



End of rant.
 
Dieselnerd said:
This thread went downhill early with the DRW vs SRW and the old "If you don't believe what *I* believe you are obviously too stupid to understand. " I've been a TDR member for 10 years and I've seen a lot of "Wars" and this is the latest one. It's got a way to go before it approaches the old transmission wars but it's getting there. Modern tires are pretty strong and blowouts are rare. If you choose what you need and you are not overloaded, it's your choice. Maybe you are slightly safer with extra tires, why not put duals on the front too? A front blowout is more dangerous than a rear. Might as well wear a crash helmet too and wear a styrofoam suit. In fact if you want to be really safe, stay home.



Sorry for the rant but we don't learn much from "The bonfires of the vanities" and I prefer honest discussion. Yeah, I have a SRW but I'm not trying to justify it or sell it to you, it works for me and is not overloaded. I chose it because it fits my particular needs and fits them well. If you understand all the load ratings and decide you need a dually by all means get one but don't call me stupid if don't do exactly as you do.



End of rant.

Thank you for getting my point across better than I could.
 
Miss Marla---I am glad you were persistent and got the DRW , you made the right choice. As for axle ratio I think the 3. 73 is best of all worlds in the RAM-3500 for RVing--not too high--not too low. Good RVing and luck,,,caw
 
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