ST Tires Again - But Different

[Northfork]

Thanks for the pics. I will give them credit for trying, ST tires really have become a black hole. Will see how they do..

 

[JR]

Mike can you get a weight on one of those? For comparison. I've seen LT tires of similar weight rating anywhere between 35 lbs and 53 lbs. Broad spectrum for sure.
Just curious more than anything. If I would have known about these before I bought my 16" wheels I may have gone with them.

 

[mwilson]

Yes, I will....they felt heavier when I picked one up..

I'll put one on my UPS scale tomorrow..

 

[LandShark]

Tirerack.com specs call for 34 pounds for the 15" E tire. Here's a link to specs for all the Endurance tires:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Endurance

 

[AH64ID]

Tirerack.com specs call for 34 pounds for the 15" E tire. Here's a link to specs for all the Endurance tires:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Endurance

For comparison the 225/75R16's I run weigh 40lbs a piece.

 

[Tuesdak]

Like others I have had the older USA Marathons separate while parked. On a light (vs. a RV) Jet Boat.

I hope this is a better run of them and worth a look. Frankly they can't be any worse than the Made in Communist China ST's. The BOOM! from one ST spare on the spare tire mount in a trailer service shop is recalled every time I go there. Never mind the roof high stack of bad Hi-Run ST's the Haulmark dealer had on the front porch at the time.

 

[mwilson]

Well I have put 700 miles on them so far. 70 lbs of air and is well. The weights are falling off but that's because one of our numb nuts tire guys used the wrong ones...will have to redo it when I get back...


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[mwilson]

Made it to Hershey Pa. Drove almost 700 miles so I could buy Chocolate flavored Twizzlers.....

Went to the Mack Museum in Allentown today. Worth the trip!!

Heading for D.C. in the morning...

 

[TFucili]

Made it to Hershey Pa. Drove almost 700 miles so I could buy Chocolate flavored Twizzlers.....

Went to the Mack Museum in Allentown today. Worth the trip!!

Heading for D.C. in the morning...

I tried to go to the Mack museum my last visit, but it was closed for remodeling. Haven't been to Hershey in many years.

 

[GCroyle]

Well I have put 700 miles on them so far. 70 lbs of air and is well.

Mike,

Not sure if you should call Ripley's Believe It Or Not or the Guinness Book of World Records for an ST tire record! :-laf:-laf

Keep an EYE on 'em and keep safe.

Gary

 

[mpaulson]

Mike, do you guys sell allot of the G614 RST tires? Any opinion of them from sales experience? I've put these on my new (last year) trailer and so far so good. On my last trailer, a 30' bumper pull I upgraded from the 15" to 16" Michelin XPS Rib tires and I put 7 years on them and about 70,000km's and never had a flat, never had to top up the air and they still had 3/8" tread depth when I sold the trailer last year!!! And this is with lots of back country gravel/dirt/mud roads. These are awesome tires for the 15" crowd to use as an upgrade. On my current trailer, a 34' toy hauler bumper pull trailer, that I bought last year, it had G rated Chi-pops on it that when I did a search for them I could buy a 20' c-can load of them for $55 a piece!!!Cheap crap! The first trip the trailer made once I had it home was to the local Goodyear dealer to get the G615's put on which were one of the ONLY (trailer service rated) choices in an LT tire for the G load range. $466.00 a piece!! I'm a firm believer in doing it right the first time and then not having the worry stress while I'm supposed to be relaxing on a holiday. I also use a TPMS that Geno's sells. I'm currently in the middle of a project of adding a third axle to this trailer due to the existing ones being WAY too far back creating insane tongue weights in the 2,400# range without water which puts it up to 3,000#!! The tongue weight drops to 1,600# with two quads in the garage. As well with just two quads in the garage I'm over the 6,000# (12,000#) tandem axle rating by 600#, again without water. So I'm putting a third axle on it infront of the existing two to help balance out the trailer, support the frame better due to the long span from the axle to the hitch. It also puts an axle under the water tanks so that I can haul water when needed without adding to the tongue weight. I'll have 22,500# of tire capacity, 18,000# of axle capacity for a load of up to 15,000#. I'll never have an overloaded tire. I do inflate them by the load inflation chart for these tires so that helps keep the ride quality in check.

 

[mwilson]

I tried to go to the Mack museum my last visit, but it was closed for remodeling. Haven't been to Hershey in many years.

You have to use the employee entrance to the right of the main entrance right now and the tour guides grab you there. Expecting to be finished up by Mid-July....

I had forgotten how bad I-78 was as far as too much traffic and too few lanes..

 

[mwilson]

Mike,

Not sure if you should call Ripley's Believe It Or Not or the Guinness Book of World Records for an ST tire record! :-laf:-laf

Keep an EYE on 'em and keep safe.

Gary

Will do!!! 850 miles on them as of right now, still round and straight..in College Park Maryland at the RV park...now I'll ride the bus and Metro for a few days...

 

[mwilson]

Mike, do you guys sell allot of the G614 RST tires? Any opinion of them from sales experience? I've put these on my new (last year) trailer and so far so good. On my last trailer, a 30' bumper pull I upgraded from the 15" to 16" Michelin XPS Rib tires and I put 7 years on them and about 70,000km's and never had a flat, never had to top up the air and they still had 3/8" tread depth when I sold the trailer last year!!! And this is with lots of back country gravel/dirt/mud roads. These are awesome tires for the 15" crowd to use as an upgrade. On my current trailer, a 34' toy hauler bumper pull trailer, that I bought last year, it had G rated Chi-pops on it that when I did a search for them I could buy a 20' c-can load of them for $55 a piece!!!Cheap crap! The first trip the trailer made once I had it home was to the local Goodyear dealer to get the G615's put on which were one of the ONLY (trailer service rated) choices in an LT tire for the G load range. $466.00 a piece!! I'm a firm believer in doing it right the first time and then not having the worry stress while I'm supposed to be relaxing on a holiday. I also use a TPMS that Geno's sells. I'm currently in the middle of a project of adding a third axle to this trailer due to the existing ones being WAY too far back creating insane tongue weights in the 2,400# range without water which puts it up to 3,000#!! The tongue weight drops to 1,600# with two quads in the garage. As well with just two quads in the garage I'm over the 6,000# (12,000#) tandem axle rating by 600#, again without water. So I'm putting a third axle on it infront of the existing two to help balance out the trailer, support the frame better due to the long span from the axle to the hitch. It also puts an axle under the water tanks so that I can haul water when needed without adding to the tongue weight. I'll have 22,500# of tire capacity, 18,000# of axle capacity for a load of up to 15,000#. I'll never have an overloaded tire. I do inflate them by the load inflation chart for these tires so that helps keep the ride quality in check.

*The tire dept did mention the G614 tires, they sell them for the big trailers... said they were a good tire....Nobody knows as far as mine go, I'm the company crash test dummy for these "E" rated 15" tires..

 

[NIsaacs]

*....Nobody knows as far as mine go, I'm the company crash test dummy for these "E" rated 15" tires..

I see they only start with 8/32's tread depth, so advertise they run cool, lol...That seems to be the trend with most ST's running in the 10-12/32's range. Even my MS2's only had 13.5/32's.

On an RV that don't see many miles they will probably last until they age out, however on a dump or flatbed that see use almost daily I wonder how many miles we can get. My Carlisle and Gladiators that are on my 3 most popular trailers seem to be going away kinda fast.

Nick

 

[mwilson]

Well 1500 loaded miles later they still look good. No bulges or tread separations that I can see. Ran some in the rain and some in 85 degree heat at 65 mph......I will be taking it out again in June and will watch them closely.

 

[GAmes]

Even the cheap no name China bombs on the low priced new trailers will last 1500 miles. I put about 3500 miles on the Marathons, most of them summer heat miles, that came on my trailer before I switched over to 16 inch wheels and Michelin LTX tires. The test is three plus years and 8 or 10k miles.

 

[crispyboy]

New set of Endurance tires

The old ST tires on our utility trailer finally bit the dust hauling in a load of hay so it is now time change out some tires.
The tires on the AS were coming due - 4 years old but still look in great shape as I keep them covered and take the weight off in the off season. These AS tires will get transferred to the utility trailer as it sees limited highway use.
Found the best deal on some Good Year Endurance tires through Good Years official website. Now thru the end of July they have a 10% off and $50 rebate. I paid $531.66 (including m & b, taxes, tire disposal) and will get the rebate in the mail.
I called several local tire shops and surfed the web and couldn't find a better deal.
Everything was worked through Good Years website and it went like clockwork. The tires were shipped to a local Good Year tire dealer and the appointment was set, all on-line.
There were two frustrating parts of the process.
1.) Good Years website only charged $8 for disposal fee. The actual fee in KY is $4 per tire.
2.) The orange lego blocks are no good on asphalt to get the trailer high enough off the ground as they kept slipping out from the tire. I only had enough wood blocks for one side. I used a bottle jack on the other side.




The technician did a great job with the tires and was conscientious about his work.
- Kept the existing metal valve stems.
- properly balanced
- 65 psi per my request
- put old tires in my truck for me
- used a torque wrench in proper sequence
- Endurance tires seem more rounded, almost bubble like compared to the more squared off Carlisle tires. I suppose this may help in tight turns.
- Fresh tires! - Date code: 1 tire made on the 16th week, 3 tires on 22 week




I cannot complain about the D rated Carlisle tires that were taken off. They had many miles over 65 mph (shame on me) but you have to run with traffic or get run over. I always watched the tire pressure and did regular inspections - this forum can make you anal about tire care.




I almost went with the Michelin Defender 235/75/15 XL tires but the trailer was getting a bit close for comfort (for me) on the weight (fully loaded) and Good Year brought out this new ST tire - I will take the gamble as I have had good luck with the Carlisle ST holding together and only adding air at the beginning of each camping season.




I did cheat a bit on the spare. I went to the local Walmart and bought the latest updated Carlisle tire. It seems like a decent tire and more beefy than the previous generation. It was $61 plus tax - half the price of the GYE. It has a big "Made in China" stamped on the sidewall - I don't feel good about sending money to the Chi-Com's.... The date code on the tire 20th week of 2016.




Here is a pic of the old Carlisle and new Endurance.

 

[GAmes]

.......... but you have to run with traffic or get run over.

I hope you get good service out of your new tires, but that statement is blatantly false. When I'm towing, not matter the state, I'm at 57-60 mph. With this truck alone I have over 800,000 miles towing RVs, cargo trailers and other trailers and have never been "run over". Think about this. You normally drive 25 to 30 mph in town. Ever rear ended another vehicle at a stop light? It certainly isn't a common occurrence. So if you are traveling 60 and the speed limit is 80, that is only a 20 mph difference. The same moron who would hit you if you are driving at 60 would just as likely hit you if you were doing 80.

 

[GSykes]

Just purchased a set of Goodyear Endurance 235/85R16 125/121N. My previous tires were Trailer King II 235/80R16 124/120L, made in Kentucky, lost two of them on our last trip. They didn't blow but had tread separation. Can't complain too much though, got over 14,000 miles out of them in eighteen months. The Goodyear's are much heavier, I'd guess about 6 Lbs. a tire, if not more. Time will tell. Here are a couple pics.