Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) stock timing question

[RKraiza]

What is the stock timing set to from the factory? Secondly, what would you suggest for timing advance to make it run a little better with out frying anything. I have read around 15. 5 degrees advance but wanted some feedback before I had it done. I have marine injectors, stock pump with stock plate slid forward a little. Stock turbo (holes drilled in bottom of box, and cat. removed. thanks

 

[ndurbin]

Stock timing should be around 14*, mine's been bumped upto 15* but I have been thinking of bumping it up alil more since my 370 injector install to around 16-18*.



Nathan

 

[Joe G.]

The stock timeing for your CPL is listed on the data plate just in front of the injection pump on the gear case. My '95 stock timing is 12. 5. I'm running 15. 5.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

His stock setting should be 14 deg.

 

[chrleb1]

If you are not running high boost, then the more timing you have the better. I have heard of some guys running above 30 degrees. They are also only able to run like 20 lbs of boost. Upside to this is fuel mileage, they were getting close to 30 mpg also. I would go around 17 - 18 degrees. I need to advance mine more, but i am afraid what will happen with 42 lbs of boost.

 

[dodge cummins]

hey guys what would be the best timing for a 96? i want alittle more juice and better fuel mileage also. thanks

 

[BPonci]

17 is a good all around #.

 

[RKraiza]

Thanks for the replies and info. So what I'am gathering is since I am running stock boost(under 30lbs max) and flowing a little more fuel(bigger injectors), I should be running around 15-17 degrees. IF I go higher, the fuel milage will be better and the truck will run better. What are the drawbacks? Will I brake anything? I'm looking for a good working/towing truck. Going to Maine in two weeks, 8hrs towing a trailer on the highway, thats what spurred my timing question.

 

[RKraiza]

One more thing, the shop I'm haveing the timing adjusted at said they only use the dial indiator on larger motors, For this adjustment, they will simply loosen the four bolts and realign the timinbg marks. Does this sound right?

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[Joe G.]

Go get your truck and take it to someone who has at least read the service manual.

 

[RKraiza]

I agree with you but why does it seem all the "professoinal" shops around me including Cummins Northeast (whom I will never go back to)seems to be less then intelligent. I get what I feel is valuable info off this site, bring it to them and feel like a fool. I am much to busy to be driveng all over hell just to get a timing adjustment. Is this possably something I can do myself if I purchase the right equiptment?

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

High timing doesn't belong on a street truck. Not over 20 degrees with any of the stock pumps and performance setups you generally find on the street. Best mileage is generally found in sticks around 15. 5 and autos maybe not that much. It is easy to screw up the procedure and poor mechanics can leave you screwed. My advice is to leave it alone. Your timing is close to optimal if it is at 14, with stock governor (rpm range). Wait until you are at a rally where someone knows his stuff to get it set.

 

[Joe G.]

You should at least update your profile so we know where you live. There should be TDR members near you who can give you advice on where to go to get work done. You might even live near someone who is pretty good at setting the timing. The very minumum thing to do is get a Dodge service manual. It has a lot of stuff in it so you can at least tell if someone is making a pile of BS when they talk to you. If you have the right tools and feel comfortable with the instructions in the service manual you can set the timing yourself. If you lived near me I would do it for you.