Synthetic Auto Transmission Fluid

[Diesel Power]

amsoil

the answer to most of those questions are in my last post, also if you are stumped by the cost then pm me and i'll change that thanks :-laf

 

[2broke2smoke]

DTT transmissions. Pardon the emphasis on only.



The fellow, James Northum, TDR member, who is a DTT builder and installer, told me to use Amsoil ATF. I was already using Amsoil ATF in the stock transmission. That is all he uses and that is what I meant.



No intention to mislead, disclaimer, disclaimer, disclaimer... ... ... ... ...

i didn't think that was the case at all ...



i was just afraid i had missed something ...



thanks

 

[GaryCarter]

Dino oil? Where is that coming from? What part of Mopar ATF+4 IS synthetic is unclear?

FYI all my fluids are synthetic, but I get them from Valvoline and Shell, or Mopar for ATF+4. "Cheap" has nothing to do with my choices.

Think about the distinction between:

"Meets specification" - a scientifically verifiable statement- and

"Recommended for". Heck, I can recommend anything. So can you.



If it makes you feel better to pay more, because "you get what you pay for", then fine, go for it. Just don't forget part of what you are paying for is a multi-level-marketing machine.



Now I'm not bashing anyone's choice, if you feel good about brand x, then go for it. But Amsoil sellers bashing Mopar synthetic ATF, when it's crystal clear they have a financial motive; well draw your own conclusions.

Let's see some scientific test results by an independent lab comparing Mopar to Amsoil. Anything else is just trash talk. :-{}



On edit: I can't really understand the logic that DC is going to put inferior fluid in a transmission assembly costing thousands, and then warranty it for 7/70 behind a diesel engine.

Gary

 

[Diesel Power]

these links should help to better understand where i am comming from, hope this helps! www.amsoil/performancetests/gearlubetest.aspx www.amsoil.com/testimonials/8pt2_morempg.aspx www.amsoil.com/testimonials/409000.aspx sorry but for some reason the transmission fluid tests are unaccesible at the moment, this is the related stuff i got!

 

[BillGotthelf]

It appears that Mr. Carter is not a fan of Amsoil. My own experience with my 40' motorhome (350 cummins with allison3000 trany) was a drop of 20 degrees when I changed the stock allison fluid to Amsoil. Oh and last time I checked DC doen't offer the 7/70 anymore.

 

[GaryCarter]

What I am interested in is the very best lubricants I can get. And I have at times used Amsoil in previous and current vehicles, when the facts supported it. I am however, particularly unconvinced about their ATF, more so since it purports to be everything to every transmission.

Would you put Dexron in your Dodge?

Would you put Mercon in your Chevy?

How about some ATF+3 for your Super Duty? No?



Yet ONE Amsoil product can replace all three. Hmmmm.

Yes you COULD put the same jug of motor oil in your diesel, your car, mower, ATV, and weed eater. But I doubt you do. If you're this interested in reading oil threads, I'd bank on it.



Now what I've always wanted to see, is a list of major OTR trucking firms that use Amsoil. How about it? AAA Cooper, Carolina, JB Hunt? Maybe UPS or Fedex? Or maybe some of those jet planes are using Amsoil lube?



Gary

 

[lethal injection]

Why dont they sell sc Amsoil at any of my local stores?

 

[dieseldude]

I don't think anywhere did I say that Amsoil was not better. I'm not sure where that came from?



If the price of synthetics came down to a more resonable price, I would use them.



Amsoil ATF is $8 a quart. Regular ATF is around $2 a quart.



I think I'd cry if a transmission line busted and pumped most of the oil out if I was using Amsoil!



The other downside is Amsoil is harder to find. Let's say I'm at the gas station and realize I'm low on engine oil... . chances are they'll have Rotella T, but probably not Amsoil.



If buying dino oil is supporting the Taliban, then what are you doing everytime you fill up your truck?? You buying Amsoil diesel too? :-laf

I would if I could but I can't afford to get set up for bio. So instead I fight it anywhere I can starting with Amsoil in my truck!!!

 

[NavyDood]

Just stick with Mopar ATF+4 at $4 a quart and live a happy care free life. Change it every 30K.

 

[RoryTek]

Some info on why you might be able find Amsoil at your local store. <br>
1. If it is a chain of 5 or 6 stores you might not find it because Amsoil is protecting their dealers. <br>
2. The local Amsoil dealer has not made any attemps to have that store carry it. <br>
3. The local did not want it. <br>
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Also here is something that will sell you on Amsoil ATF<br>
Take your little propane torch and your ATF fluid and put the heat to it and time it how long it takes to start burning up. <br>
Now do it with Amsoil ATF and you will how much longer if at all it will take to burn it. <br>
Word of caution make sure you try this on a metal bench or something similar.

 

[hasselbach]

What's interesting is the fact that I have gotten over 250,000 miles on prior chevy duallys using only regular ATF fluid (in fact I ran ford fluid in my turbo 400), and regular 140 weight GL5 fluid for the rear end with no problems. Why now does the rear end and transmissions require such expensive fluilds when they haven't really changed much themselves? I think this is a bit over blown with the fluid requirements. I'd rather change my fluid more often and use dino oil than keep the amsoil in there for longer periods.

 

[NavyDood]

Until someone takes two identical 48re's, one filled with ATF+4, the other with Amsoil Universal, put's them through Identical driving conditions, and can show me that Amsoil is superior, Amsoil products will never be in my truck. No matter how much brain washing they attempt.

 

[Diesel Power]

amsoil

you guys should contact stefan at DDT transmissions, they will tell you first hand about the superiority of amsoil fluids in there transmissions vs dodge fluid, also look at the links i posted they have OTR truckers on there as well as others, oh i forgot one of the fastest diesels in the country is owned by NAPD, they use ALL amsoil fluids, but so does most of nascar about 85% but this dont matter. check out the links! :-laf

 

[dieseldude]

Amsoil

I know you guys think it is so expensive to run amsoil but if you do the math you will see that it can be a money saver if not it works out the to be the same.

 

[Diesel Power]

amsoil

i'll second that----dodge 4$=30k amsoil 8$=100k looks like a winner, but i understand you guys want to see the test, as soon as i can get them i will :-laf

 

[Bertram65]

Sure is great when sales people join the forums... . you can always count on an unbiased endorsment.

Where were you when the Amsoil 2000 was causing noise problems with the AAM anti spin rear ends?

 

[Diesel Power]

we were creating a fix called slip loc, then we went even further to create a gearlube that dosent require slip loc---its called severe gear! :--)

 

[NavyDood]

Amsoil discussions. Sheesh. #ad

 

[Diesel Power]

i like that little guy where did you find him?

 

[hasselbach]

Where were you when the Amsoil 2000 was causing noise problems with the AAM anti spin rear ends?

My guess is he was at the Amsoil Sales conference that taught him how to handle the client's complaints about the Amsoil 2000 chatter problem in the AAM rear ends... :-laf