Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Turbine Shot

[CBlack]

I've noticed a weird noise lately. Finally got around to investigating it today and it turns out that my turbine wheel has been grinding the housing.



The shaft is really loose for some reason.



Is the turbo shot or can this be repaired?

 

[ETavernier]

CBlack,

Do not drive the truck. At the very least you are filling your intercooler with metal shavings. Worst case some is working it's way to the engine.

Yes you can rebuild your turbo, and it sound like it's over due!

Do it! Don't drive it until you do!

Eddie

 

[CBlack]

Don't worry. It's not moving until it's fixed.

Any ideas on what the repairs run?

 

[mwilson]

CBlack,

Get me your ESN and I will price a Cummins ReCon Turbo for you so that you will have a benchmark to compare any repair quotes to.



Still shoveling snow and clearing roofs, will be back inside and check for your post about 5. 00pm.



I don't think it is going to stop snowing up here until June the way it seems to be going... ... ... .

 

[ETavernier]

CBlack,

Paul Mierop... WM300 here of TDR has rebuilt his turbo. It fairly cheap I believe. He's documented the whole thing on the link below...

Good luck

Eddie



H1C Turbo Rebuild

 

[CBlack]

CBlack,

Get me your ESN and I will price a Cummins ReCon Turbo for you so that you will have a benchmark to compare any repair quotes to.



Still shoveling snow and clearing roofs, will be back inside and check for your post about 5. 00pm.



I don't think it is going to stop snowing up here until June the way it seems to be going... ... ... .

ESN - 56311377



Many thanks for this.



I don't envy you your snow. It's in the 60's here today and hopefully the nasty weather is gone.

CBlack,

Paul Mierop... WM300 here of TDR has rebuilt his turbo. It fairly cheap I believe. He's documented the whole thing on the link below...

Good luck

Eddie



H1C Turbo Rebuild

Thanks. I've been looking into that.





I have a list of 10 things to do today/tomorrow on my truck.



This was not one of them!



Almost have the heater core out... .

 

[mwilson]

CBlack,



Turbo P/N in ReCon is 3802992RX. Price to a preferred customer would be app. $1075. 00 exchange.



Just wanted you to have some idea of reman price.



Here is a breakdown of your turbo... ...



Part numbers of components... illustration at bottom of this post... .



The parts lists don't come across too great so here is what you are seeing,



1st column is key number for illustration

2nd column is part number

3rd column is available Y or N

4th column *Ignore It*

5th column is description

6th column is quantity required.



Ref No Part Number For-Sale Shopping Cart Part Name Required Remarks

PP97114-01 NO Turbocharger



3802841 YES ADD Kit, Turbocharger 1

3538414 YES ADD Turbocharger 1

1 3037236 YES ADD Seal, O Ring 1

2 3519807 YES ADD Gasket, Turbocharger 1 Cummins Equiv. 3914388

3 3501188 YES ADD Plate, Clamping 2

4 3503100 YES ADD Bearing, Turbocharger 2

5 3503562 YES ADD Nut, Lock 1 M7 X 1. 00

6 3519163 YES ADD Screw, Drive 2

7 3519302 YES ADD Shield, Turbocharger Heat 1

8 3519336 YES ADD Shaft & Wheel 1

9 3527566 YES ADD Ring, Retaining 1

10 3527619 NO Dataplate 1

11 3528104 YES ADD Baffle, Oil 1

12 3528121 YES ADD Coupling, Elbow Hose 1

13 3528177 NO End, Adjusting Link 1

14 3528204 YES ADD Nut, Regular Hexagon 2 1/4 - 28 UNF

15 3528221 YES ADD Ring, Retaining 1

16 3528414 YES ADD Nut, Regular Hexagon Jam 1 5/16-24 Thd

17 3528933 YES ADD Seal, O Ring 1 M8 X 1. 25 X 20

18 3530556 YES ADD Screw, Hexagon Head Set 5 M8 X 1. 25 X 20

19 3530923 YES ADD Plate, Oil Seal 1

20 3530924 YES ADD Slinger, Oil 1

21 3531238 YES ADD Ring, Retaining 1

22 3532215 YES ADD Bearing, Tur Thrust 1

23 3532217 YES ADD Collar, Thrust 1

24 3532427 NO Baffle, Turbocharger Noise 1 Purchase Higher Level Assy

3575743 YES ADD Kit, Pre-Set Actuator 1

25 3532622 NO Actuator, Turbocharger 1

26 3522597 YES ADD Pin, Roll 1

27 3532631 NO Housing, Tur Bearing 1

28 3504967 YES ADD Washer, Plain 3

29 3532195 YES ADD Spacer, Mounting 3

30 3532196 YES ADD Spacer, Mounting 2

31 3532298 YES ADD Screw, Hexagon Head Set 2 M8 x 1. 25 x 55

32 3532600 YES ADD Bracket, Actuator 1

33 3532940 YES ADD Screw, Hexagon Head Set 1 M8 x 1. 25 x 35

34 3527759 YES ADD Connection, Adapter 1

35 3533163 YES ADD Ring, Retaining 1

36 3535001 YES ADD Gasket, Turbocharger 1

37 3535215 YES ADD Clamp, Hose 2

38 3536158 NO Housing, Compressor 1

39 3537167 YES ADD Impeller, Tur Compressor 1

40 3538468 YES ADD Hose, Plain 1

41 3756754 YES ADD Seal, Split Ring 1

42 3758848 YES ADD Seal, Split Ring 1

43 3759917 YES ADD Screw, Hexagon Head Set 4 M8 X 1. 25 X 12

44 3762259 YES ADD Ring, Retaining 4

46 3534812 NO Housing, Turbine 1

45 3709861 YES ADD Gasket, Turbocharger 1 Cummins Equiv. 3901356

 

[CBlack]

I think I found a less expensive fix.

Genuine Holset Hx35 Turbo H1C DSM Cummins - eBay (item 330526533096 end time Feb-07-11 18:50:30 PST)

I'm planning on a newer truck soon, so I hope this will work for me.

Prices range from $500 - 900 for a rebuild here.

 

[mwilson]

Can't beat the price at this point on the E-Bay turbo.

 

[CBlack]

Not at all. Hopefully I can get it for a decent price.

Opinions...

He says that I can get the 18cm housing instead of the 16. Should I stick with the 16?

 

[MChrist]

Somebody with more knowledge than myself should jump in here, but my understanding is that the larger housing will provide more lag, but potentially more power on the top end if you are modified. Smaller housing is usually better for everyday use. You should wait for a better source than mine, though.

 

[CBlack]

That's my understanding of it too, so don't feel bad.

 

[CBlack]

I won the turbo in the above listed auction.

Which housing should I choose, the 16 or 18?

I think 232. 50 is not a bad price for a HX35.

 

[MChrist]

I would go with 16 between the two choices.

 

[CBlack]

I guess the reason I'm asking is because the HX35 comes with a 12cm housing (if I'm not mistaken) and want to know what the difference would be.

 

[Hammer]

The turbo is in need of a rebuild,that definite as the others told you.



Myself,I would not buy a reman from Cummins I would either get one from High Tech Turbo as they offer your HX35 new with the upgraded housings for a touch more than your reman turbo.



OR... .



I would call the Chris at Engineered Diesel and send your to him and get it redone. Either shop is capable of quality work and can get you righted in no time... ..... Andy



High Tech Turbo



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